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Is Kim Jong-un the world's next Boogeyman?

Re: Is Kim Jong-un the world's next Boogeyman?

Postby the truth » Sep 22nd, 2017, 12:12 pm

Merry wrote:
the truth wrote::200: :panic: :crazy:

Nobody's panicking here, but it would be foolish not to be concerned.

I share your belief that U.S. foreign policy is not always "squeaky clean" and is often subject to undue influence from commercial interest. But, in the case of N Korea, you can't deny that Kim Jong-un's provocative language and actions are influencing events in a big way.

If this guy doesn't back down soon, he's going to lose the ability to back down. And, if as you suggest, other forces are at work here, then Kim Jong-un is aiding and abetting them.

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Re: Is Kim Jong-un the world's next Boogeyman?

Postby GordonH » Sep 22nd, 2017, 12:19 pm

Lock Kim Jong-un & Donald Trump in a room for few hours (for as long as it takes), let them beat the hell out of each other. If either actually knows how to throw a punch, just to get it out of each other system.... then just move on.
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Re: Is Kim Jong-un the world's next Boogeyman?

Postby gman313 » Sep 22nd, 2017, 12:19 pm

pick him off from a drone and be done with it

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Re: Is Kim Jong-un the world's next Boogeyman?

Postby the truth » Sep 22nd, 2017, 12:26 pm

could it be that simple :D
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Re: Is Kim Jong-un the world's next Boogeyman?

Postby gman313 » Sep 22nd, 2017, 12:40 pm

the truth wrote:could it be that simple :D


probably not and NK has weapons hidden all over the mountains, no different than the Taliban did.

However that family has dominated for so long if one minute he was standing there and the next he was on the ground it wouldn't hurt.
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Re: Is Kim Jong-un the world's next Boogeyman?

Postby Thinktank » Sep 22nd, 2017, 3:27 pm

Merry wrote:
In the meantime, Russia is sitting on Ukraine's borders, possibly waiting for an opportunity to invade while the rest of the world's attention is diverted elsewhere.



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Re: Is Kim Jong-un the world's next Boogeyman?

Postby Catsumi » Sep 22nd, 2017, 6:06 pm

Right. Just how accurate is the delivery system of their warheads?

Could smack into Vancouver, B.C. instead of Las Vegas.

Personally, I don't think Kim is in charge at all but possibly a sock puppet of China. A replacement would be the same thing again, just a different face and (hopefully) a better haircut.
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Re: Is Kim Jong-un the world's next Boogeyman?

Postby Ka-El » Sep 23rd, 2017, 7:44 am

War of words between Donald Trump and North Korea is 'a fight between two children'

Russia's foreign minister has compared Donald Trump and Kim Jong-un to nursery children, after the two leaders traded insults and threats.

North Korean leader called Mr Trump a "dotard" and a "frightened dog" over the threats of annihilation the US President made during a speech at the United Nations General Assembly.

Mr Trump responded the next morning by calling Mr Kim a "madman" and threatening to test him "like never before".
Moscow's Sergei Lavrov described the leaders as "hotheads" who needed to "calm down".

"Yes, it's unacceptable to silently watch North Korea's nuclear military adventures, but it is also unacceptable to unleash war on the Korean Peninsula," he said.

http://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/world/rus ... &ocid=iehp
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Re: Is Kim Jong-un the world's next Boogeyman?

Postby Ka-El » Sep 23rd, 2017, 7:47 am

North Korea Hits New Level of Brinkmanship in Reacting to Trump

SEOUL, South Korea — North Korea has long cultivated an image of defiant belligerence, punctuating its propaganda and diplomacy with colorful threats, insults and bluffs. But Kim Jong-un’s personal statement released on Friday, and his foreign minister’s threat to test a nuclear weapon over the Pacific Ocean, represent a new level of brinkmanship by the government.

Speaking in the first person in his statement, Mr. Kim called Mr. Trump a “frightened dog” and a “mentally deranged U.S. dotard.” Saying he was personally insulted by Mr. Trump’s speech to the United Nations General Assembly threatening to “totally destroy” North Korea, Mr. Kim vowed to take the “highest level of hard-line countermeasure in history.”

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Re: Is Kim Jong-un the world's next Boogeyman?

Postby JLives » Sep 23rd, 2017, 8:29 am

I can't wait until we stop allowing over inflated egos to be in charge of things. We're on the brink of nuclear war right now because of it. I thought we learned our lesson with Japan but I'm not so sure now. Can we put more women in charge of things please?
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Re: Is Kim Jong-un the world's next Boogeyman?

Postby Thinktank » Sep 23rd, 2017, 10:18 am

JLives wrote:Can we put more women in charge of things please?


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Can anyone guess what she's saying?
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Re: Is Kim Jong-un the world's next Boogeyman?

Postby Merry » Sep 23rd, 2017, 11:30 am

Judging by this article, some kind of nuclear activity from N Korea may be a lot more likely than we assume (or at least that's what the U.S. Govt seems to think).

http://nationalpost.com/news/world/how- ... ing-it-out

The fact is that, regardless of what we may think of Donald Trump, it is the actions and words of Kim Jong-un who created this situation in the first place, and who is responsible for what might ultimately happen.

I think Trump's tough talk was an attempt to get N Korea to back down, although it clearly hasn't worked. But what else could the U.S. have done? If they'd continued to allow N Korea to blackmail them into giving them money or other concessions in return for not causing trouble, it would only encourage other rogue nations to do the same (Iran's recent missile launch is a case in point).

The Russians and the Chinese are both quick to criticize the Yanks, but the fact is that if they really want to prevent this situation from escalating even further, those two countries would get fully onside with the U.S. and make it clear to N Korea that if they start any trouble they'll be facing a united front from all three nations.

I get that neither the Chinese, nor the Russians, want to see a united Korea with the Americans firmly established in that country. But why can't they make a deal that, in return for full co-operation, the Americans will agree to stay out following any possible regime change?

The bottom line is that the present N Korean govt is a threat to world peace, and it's in the interests of all three military powers to work together to contain that threat.
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Re: Is Kim Jong-un the world's next Boogeyman?

Postby Frisk » Sep 23rd, 2017, 4:58 pm

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Re: Is Kim Jong-un the world's next Boogeyman?

Postby Thinktank » Sep 23rd, 2017, 6:27 pm

Frisk wrote:No amount aid is going to resolve that issue.


By aid do you mean sanctions?
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Re: Is Kim Jong-un the world's next Boogeyman?

Postby Merry » Sep 24th, 2017, 1:38 am

He means the kind of financial aid the U.S. has given N Korea in the past. Such as in Jan 2017, and also in 2011.
The United States has provided $1 million in humanitarian aid to impoverished North Korea, the U.S. State Department said Wednesday.

Despite growing tensions between North Korea and Washington, the U.S. sent the assistance last week on the day before President Donald Trump was sworn in and took over the U.S. government.

It marks the first time that the U.S. provided humanitarian assistance to the North since 2011, when it provided relief items including medical supplies to North Korean flood victims. That aid, worth $900,000, was made through Samaritan's Purse, a U.S.-based humanitarian aid organization.

https://www.voanews.com/a/united-states ... 92811.html

Or the kind of aid that was pledged in 1995 when, in return for abandoning their nuclear program, N Korea was promised aid in the form of 500,000 tons of oil a year and $4 billion towards the construction of a light water reactor capable of producing nuclear energy (but not nuclear weapons)

That deal didn't last and N Korea went back to developing nuclear weapons so, in 2005 the U.S. signed a new deal with N Korea in which Pyongyang pledged to scrap its nuclear program in exchange for economic and energy aid. But by 2008 that deal had also unraveled.

According to a 2014 report from the Congressional Research Service, between 1995 and 2008, the United States provided North Korea with more than $1.3 billion in aid: slightly more than 50 percent for food and about 40 percent for energy assistance.

http://www.newsweek.com/did-us-really-p ... mps-657177
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