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What Hitler's plan was for Russia

Re: What Hitler's plan was for Russia

Postby ferri » Aug 30th, 2017, 2:08 pm

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Re: What Hitler's plan was for Russia

Postby Gilchy » Aug 30th, 2017, 3:04 pm

I'll settle the argument for everyone here:
-Nazi Germany: Evil, bad, heinous, every negative adjective you can think of.
-Soviet Russia: Citizen's paradise.... just kidding, actually: evil, bad, heinous, every negative adjective you can think of.

Not sure what is so hard about this.

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Re: What Hitler's plan was for Russia

Postby maryjane48 » Aug 30th, 2017, 3:09 pm

exactlty its pretty clear . nazi equals bad . never let them gain strength.
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Re: What Hitler's plan was for Russia

Postby GordonH » Aug 30th, 2017, 3:18 pm

Gilchy wrote:I'll settle the argument for everyone here:
-Nazi Germany: Evil, bad, heinous, every negative adjective you can think of.
-Soviet Russia: Citizen's paradise.... just kidding, actually: evil, bad, heinous, every negative adjective you can think of.

Not sure what is so hard about this.


Hitler & Stalin 2 of many evil people this world has seen, anyone who supports or likening either of these pieces of s :cuss: t as a great leader is an idiot.
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Re: What Hitler's plan was for Russia

Postby Thinktank » Aug 30th, 2017, 4:01 pm

So, I imagined lots of times, what must it have been like in Germany, at about the time WW2 started.
I'm sure millions of Germans were against the war. millions of others must have been looking forward
to it. Like we saw with the Iraq war, Americans voted Bush in for the second term because they were so pleased
with the slaughter of Iraqis. Yet, the biggest crowd of protesters in human history was in New York and London,
people against the war.

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We like to say Hitler and Stalin were monsters, but that's only partly true. Humans are monsters. Thousands
of people working together create a war. Newspaper editors are needed to lie to the sheeple.
billionaires are needed to pay for the war. Corrupt governments are needed. We shouldn't just blame Hitler or Stalin.
Half of humans are in favor of wars. And they always will be.
Ukraine is broke, and undertook a war on that portion of the country that provided 30% of GDP. Now a draft, for an army, for a war, for a government that will - get this - implement IMF/EU *austerity*.

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Re: What Hitler's plan was for Russia

Postby Omnitheo » Aug 30th, 2017, 5:18 pm

AJ, those people fought for their country, for freedom, for something bigger than a piece of fabric. Burning a flag of America isn't burning America. If you accidentally rip a Canadian flag in half, you didn't just separate Manitoba from Ontario.

If people wanna burn their own property, let them. If they wanna turn Laurier on a 5 into Spock, big deal it's their money.

Don't get so sensitive.
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Re: What Hitler's plan was for Russia

Postby The Green Barbarian » Aug 30th, 2017, 8:46 pm

maryjane48 wrote:exactlty its pretty clear . nazi equals bad . never let them gain strength.


and it's even more clear - Communist equals bad, never let them gain strength.
Pierre Trudeau was an epic disaster for Canada. Like father like son.

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Re: What Hitler's plan was for Russia

Postby averagejoe » Aug 31st, 2017, 9:05 am

maryjane48 wrote:exactlty its pretty clear . nazi equals bad . never let them gain strength.


The Green Barbarian wrote:and it's even more clear - Communist equals bad, never let them gain strength.


Funny how all these leftist who many have not been taught the horrors of Communism....only the horrors of National Socialism?

Thanks colleges and universities........now we have all these millennials sjw's marxists. :-X
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Re: What Hitler's plan was for Russia

Postby Gilchy » Aug 31st, 2017, 9:26 am

It has nothing to do with post-secondary education, trust me when I say they provide an in-depth study of the realities of all extremist forms of government. Also, read the posts and arguments of the people whole-heartedly supporting either extreme, what makes you think any of these people have sought a higher education...

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Re: What Hitler's plan was for Russia

Postby averagejoe » Aug 31st, 2017, 1:27 pm

Gilchy wrote:It has nothing to do with post-secondary education, trust me when I say they provide an in-depth study of the realities of all extremist forms of government. Also, read the posts and arguments of the people whole-heartedly supporting either extreme, what makes you think any of these people have sought a higher education...


Let this sink in....

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Re: What Hitler's plan was for Russia

Postby Ranger66 » Sep 1st, 2017, 6:52 am

"Let this sink in...."


While I appreciate the creativity your failure to actually produce a constructive point without stuff that is just not consistent with facts creates a credibility factor that makes your augment seem a little hoary.

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Re: What Hitler's plan was for Russia

Postby averagejoe » Sep 1st, 2017, 8:41 am

Well you asked.....

I have under lined the DECLARED rules of Communist take over of America that pertain to today and it's pretty well the majority of the rules especially rule #42......



45 Goals for the take over America by the Communist Party U.S.A.


On Jan. 10, 1963, Congressman Albert S. Herlong Jr. of Florida read a list of 45 Communist goals into the Congressional Record.

1. U.S. acceptance of coexistence as the only alternative to atomic war.

2. U.S. willingness to capitulate in preference to engaging in atomic war.

3. Develop the illusion that total disarmament [by] the United States would be a demonstration of moral strength.

4. Permit free trade between all nations regardless of Communist affiliation and regardless of whether or not items could be used for war.

5. Extension of long-term loans to Russia and Soviet satellites.

6. Provide American aid to all nations regardless of Communist domination.

7. Grant recognition of Red China. Admission of Red China to the U.N.

8. Set up East and West Germany as separate states in spite of Khrushchev's promise in 1955 to settle the German question by free elections under supervision of the U.N.

9. Prolong the conferences to ban atomic tests because the United States has agreed to suspend tests as long as negotiations are in progress.

10. Allow all Soviet satellites individual representation in the U.N.

11. Promote the U.N. as the only hope for mankind.

12. Resist any attempt to outlaw the Communist Party.

13. Do away with all loyalty oaths.

14. Continue giving Russia access to the U.S. Patent Office.

15. Capture one or both of the political parties in the United States.

16. Use technical decisions of the courts to weaken basic American institutions by claiming their activities violate civil rights.

17. Get control of the schools. Use them as transmission belts for socialism and current Communist propaganda. Soften the curriculum. Get control of teachers' associations. Put the party line in textbooks.

18. Gain control of all student newspapers.

19. Use student riots to foment public protests against programs or organizations which are under Communist attack.

20. Infiltrate the press. Get control of book-review assignments, editorial writing, policy-making positions.

21. Gain control of key positions in radio, TV, and motion pictures.

22. Continue discrediting American culture by degrading all forms of artistic expression.

23. Control art critics and directors of art museums. "Our plan is to promote ugliness, repulsive, meaningless art."

24. Eliminate all laws governing obscenity by calling them "censorship" and a violation of free speech and free press.

25. Break down cultural standards of morality by promoting pornography and obscenity in books, magazines, motion pictures, radio, and TV.

26. Present homosexuality, degeneracy and promiscuity as "normal, natural, healthy."

27. Infiltrate the churches and replace revealed religion with "social" religion. Discredit the Bible and emphasize the need for intellectual maturity, which does not need a "religious crutch."

28. Eliminate prayer or any phase of religious expression in the schools on the ground that it violates the principle of "separation of church and state."

29. Discredit the American Constitution by calling it inadequate, old-fashioned, out of step with modern needs, a hindrance to cooperation between nations on a worldwide basis.

30. Discredit the American Founding Fathers. Present them as selfish aristocrats who had no concern for the "common man."

31. Belittle all forms of American culture and discourage the teaching of American history on the ground that it was only a minor part of the "big picture." Give more emphasis to Russian history since the Communists took over.

32. Support any socialist movement to give centralized control over any part of the culture--education, social agencies, welfare programs, mental health clinics, etc.

33. Eliminate all laws or procedures which interfere with the operation of the Communist apparatus.

34. Eliminate the House Committee on Un-American Activities.

35. Discredit and eventually dismantle the FBI.

36. Infiltrate and gain control of more unions.

37. Infiltrate and gain control of big business.

38. Transfer some of the powers of arrest from the police to social agencies. Treat all behavioral problems as psychiatric disorders which no one but psychiatrists can understand [or treat].

39. Dominate the psychiatric profession and use mental health laws as a means of gaining coercive control over those who oppose Communist goals.

40. Discredit the family as an institution. Encourage promiscuity and easy divorce.

41. Emphasize the need to raise children away from the negative influence of parents. Attribute prejudices, mental blocks and retarding of children to suppressive influence of parents.

[u]42. Create the impression that violence and insurrection are legitimate aspects of the American tradition; that students and special-interest groups should rise up and use ["]united force["] to solve economic, political or social problems.
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43. Overthrow all colonial governments before native populations are ready for self-government.

44. Internationalize the Panama Canal.

45. Repeal the Connally reservation so the United States cannot prevent the World Court from seizing jurisdiction [over domestic problems. Give the World Court jurisdiction] over nations and individuals alike.
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Re: What Hitler's plan was for Russia

Postby averagejoe » Sep 1st, 2017, 8:56 am

Moscow's plans for the Sovietization of America are still in place and are being implemented today to it's fullest.

Short explanation....



Longer explanation....

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Re: What Hitler's plan was for Russia

Postby Ranger66 » Sep 1st, 2017, 9:42 am

“45 Goals for the take over America by the Communist Party U.S.A.”

As written by an ex FBI agent and Congressman Albert S. Herlong Jr.

You just need to research a little better.
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Re: What Hitler's plan was for Russia

Postby RupertBear » Sep 1st, 2017, 11:06 am

Ranger66 wrote:“45 Goals for the take over America by the Communist Party U.S.A.”

As written by an ex FBI agent and Congressman Albert S. Herlong Jr.

You just need to research a little better.


It looks like the Ruskies are just 45 points shy of attaining their goals.
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