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* Gutierrez worries that algebra and geometry perpetuate privilege because "emphasizing terms like Pythagorean theorem and pi" give the impression that math "was largely developed by Greeks and other Europeans."

*She also worries that evaluations of math skills can perpetuate discrimination against minorities, especially if they do worse than their white counterparts.

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:dash: unfrikken believable.

An entire book on this dreck? Seriously now? This isn't the Onion or something worse?
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Stupid people sure are annoying.

I will crown her Queen and let her rule over all the lands however if she simply tells me the last digit of good old racist Pi.


edit to add: Math isn't racist, it simply is. 2+2=4. that's is, I didn't need to be defend by antifa or the KKK to know it was 4 I have enough fingers to sort this one out.

However when one becomes unknown and failed in their field I suppose they write a book to try to exploit their own heritage and call their chosen field racist since they aren't going anywhere and really desire any notoriety and no one wants to read their cat posting on facebook. Maybe if she was worth anything in her field we would be discussing the Gutierrez Principle instead of the Gutierrez idiot.
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Glacier wrote:* Gutierrez worries that algebra and geometry perpetuate privilege because "emphasizing terms like Pythagorean theorem and pi" give the impression that math "was largely developed by Greeks and other Europeans."

*She also worries that evaluations of math skills can perpetuate discrimination against minorities, especially if they do worse than their white counterparts.

https://www.campusreform.org/?ID=10005


what about Asian counter-parts?
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Veovis wrote:Stupid people sure are annoying.

I will crown her Queen and let her rule over all the lands however if she simply tells me the last digit of good old racist Pi.


edit to add: Math isn't racist, it simply is. 2+2=4. that's is, I didn't need to be defend by antifa or the KKK to know it was 4 I have enough fingers to sort this one out.

However when one becomes unknown and failed in their field I suppose they write a book to try to exploit their own heritage and call their chosen field racist since they aren't going anywhere and really desire any notoriety and no one wants to read their cat posting on facebook. Maybe if she was worth anything in her field we would be discussing the Gutierrez Principle instead of the Gutierrez idiot.


How about if she simply tells us the book and thesis in it was a joke and apologizes for all the trees that died making the paper it's printed on?
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The Green Barbarian wrote:
Glacier wrote:* Gutierrez worries that algebra and geometry perpetuate privilege because "emphasizing terms like Pythagorean theorem and pi" give the impression that math "was largely developed by Greeks and other Europeans."

*She also worries that evaluations of math skills can perpetuate discrimination against minorities, especially if they do worse than their white counterparts.

https://www.campusreform.org/?ID=10005


what about Asian counter-parts?

Asians are really white supremacists in disguise. https://www.vice.com/en_ca/article/exkd ... -supremacy
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What a minute Dizzy, is that gif for Glacier's post right above or his OP?

@Glacier, I read the "Asians are White Supremists in Disquise" article and gleaned out of it that as long as the Black community is being bootjacked to the throat and not Asians, the Asians are happy to keep their heads down and all inequalities happen as long as Asians are able to keep earning and living without anyone noticing them. Of course the stereotype of an Asian comes with a built in belief that they are math whizzes, naturals. No bank ad on tv is complete without an Asian actor telling us how happy they are with Such and Such banking services and if an Asian says it, it must be a smart choice.

That math is racist is irrelevant until one sees the movie "Hidden Figures" and wonders why it took freaking decades for the fact that black women worked as computers before Fortran was invented. And with computers after Fortran was invented.
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Queen K wrote:What a minute Dizzy, is that gif for Glacier's post right above or his OP?

Its for the whole "racist" and "discrimination" culture in general that we've created :up:
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Ah yes, the whole race card thing that was created. I have story about that but not now, I'm going back to bed.

Night.
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Queen K wrote:
That math is racist is irrelevant until one sees the movie "Hidden Figures" and wonders why it took freaking decades for the fact that black women worked as computers before Fortran was invented. And with computers after Fortran was invented.


not sure what you mean with this sentence. Do you mean why did it take decades to make the movie about these women? I really liked that movie, that's for sure. Not sure math was to blame for the racism that was clearly demonstrated in that movie. That being said, if you read the actual history, a lot of what they depict in that movie never happened, including the one character having to run to the other side of the campus to go to the bathroom. But it made for good dramatic effect.
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“On many levels, mathematics itself operates as Whiteness. Who gets credit for doing and developing mathematics, who is capable in mathematics, and who is seen as part of the mathematical community is generally viewed as White,” Gutierrez argued."

I was thinking of this part of the quote "who is capable of doing math" and thinking of the movie's heroines being recognized early in life for further encouragement and educational opportunities in math.

How many are not recognized or encouraged to develop their math skills due to attitudes that math operates as Whiteness?
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Not entirely related, but relevant nonetheless, imo.

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I believe that is exactly where this thread should be going Retrosnap.

After we've all posted that:

1. She's over reaching in academia to make her mark as a professor, and
2. Math is inclusive to all

where else is there to go?

Her cat's posts? Veovis was all over that one.
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Algebra is a latin variant of an Arabic word Al-jabr. Originated out of Bhagdad in 825AD. So many people hate Algebra is probably why we bombed Iraq.

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