California wildfires

California wildfires

Postby maryjane48 » Dec 5th, 2017, 9:54 am

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Re: California wildfires

Postby maryjane48 » Dec 7th, 2017, 6:58 pm

http://www.cnn.com/2017/12/07/us/ventur ... PMStoryGal


Fire bosses hopefull they can do backburns get a head of these fires
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Re: California wildfires

Postby maryjane48 » Dec 7th, 2017, 9:35 pm

http://sacramento.cbslocal.com/2017/12/ ... ad-horses/

Race horses burnt :200:

Just think this is their winter coldest time of year
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Re: California wildfires

Postby Drip_Torch » Dec 7th, 2017, 9:37 pm

RH values expressed in single digits, wind gusts up to 75 mp/h (120 km/h). Yeah, it didn't seem like they were going to catch a break, but they were able to launch 26 tankers on the Murrieta fire this afternoon - an impressive initial attack.

The Lilac fire showed an awesome initial release of energy, but appears to be stabilizing late this evening and they have night heli-tanking operations going on.

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The fire in Ventura county is still going strong in the hills, but it's being pushed into the pacific ocean by the winds.

Looks like the winds are abating, but the temps appear to be going up in the short term.

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Re: California wildfires

Postby GordonH » Dec 7th, 2017, 9:40 pm

Currently daytime temps mid 20s (mid 70s)
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Re: California wildfires

Postby Drip_Torch » Dec 7th, 2017, 9:43 pm

Yeah, perfect ground pounding temps, but it's heading into the mid 80's through the weekend and into early next week.

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Re: California wildfires

Postby ifwisheswerehorses » Dec 8th, 2017, 3:56 pm

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Re: California wildfires

Postby GordonH » Dec 8th, 2017, 4:31 pm

GordonH wrote:Currently daytime temps mid 20s (mid 70s)


Combination of hot & very dry condition = 1 spark & poof... add in those reliable California winds = major poof.
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Re: California wildfires

Postby Catsumi » Dec 8th, 2017, 8:54 pm

The scene showing the gentleman taking a minute in that firestorm to save a frightened wild rabbit from burning to death won my heart completely.

I see the smoke on TV and it brings back the ugly smell we endured all summer. Poor California, poor B.C.
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Re: California wildfires

Postby johnny24 » Dec 8th, 2017, 10:42 pm

Catsumi wrote:The scene showing the gentleman taking a minute in that firestorm to save a frightened wild rabbit from burning to death won my heart completely.


Left me shaking my head. I think a rabbit has better survival skills than that man to avoid being burned to death. How many more human lives would need to be risked if he got into trouble?
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Re: California wildfires

Postby Catsumi » Dec 8th, 2017, 11:42 pm

We are different people in how we view the world. The scene happened, we were able to view it and come to different conclusions. I saw the compassion, you saw the risk.
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Re: California wildfires

Postby KenL » Dec 9th, 2017, 9:26 am

Terrible fires, and we in BC all know the effects too well. No stormy weather recently in California to cause them, so all are of human origin. Lots of chatter on Facebook, etc that several of the fires are caused by vandals, possibly even a planned terror attack.
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Re: California wildfires

Postby Fancy » Dec 9th, 2017, 9:32 am

The fires were exacerbated by unusually powerful and long-lasting Santa Ana winds,[87] as well as large amounts of dry vegetation grown due to large amounts of precipitation earlier in the year,

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No doubt human caused but embers can travel and start other fires - especially with the winds. We saw what happened with the Okanagan Mountain fire and how far chunks of debris travelled. Devastating and tragic.
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Re: California wildfires

Postby Drip_Torch » Dec 9th, 2017, 12:05 pm

Fancy wrote:Devastating and tragic.


Yes, and I find cause to lament...

Oh, if only they would engage with BC in a technology transfer program and we could release our technical SPU secrets.

They could then begin the process of large scale fuel treatments, with copious amounts of hydrogen hydroxide, to release the humidity bubble.

(Although, having said that; what they do seems to work too. And, they definitely do utilize the wheel to their maximum benefit.)
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Re: California wildfires

Postby seewood » Dec 9th, 2017, 12:34 pm

Fancy wrote:No doubt human caused but embers can travel and start other fires


KenL wrote: No stormy weather recently in California to cause them, so all are of human origin.


Perhaps some but The other day I heard a quick clip mentioning the high winds blew down some trees onto power lines and started a fire. So I suppose man made the power lines so man made?
Anyway those winds are incredible. Never seen fires with winds like that.
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