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Amtrak derails, car on I-5 Washington state

Amtrak derails, car on I-5 Washington state

Postby ferri » Dec 18th, 2017, 9:53 am

This is happening now.

Fatalities, people trapped after train derails onto I-5 near Lacey; all lanes blocked

http://www.kiro7.com/news/local/train-d ... /665619813


https://www.castanet.net/news/World/214 ... in-derails
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Re: Amtrak derails, car on I-5 Washington state

Postby ferri » Dec 18th, 2017, 10:10 am

Oh man. Look middle left of the picture. You can see an Amtrak car on the freeway.

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Re: Amtrak derails, car on I-5 Washington state

Postby JagXKR » Dec 18th, 2017, 10:17 am

Reportedly doing 80mph when it all went bad. 130kph for the younger generation.
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Re: Amtrak derails, car on I-5 Washington state

Postby ferri » Dec 18th, 2017, 10:20 am

Watching an interview from the scene. To the left of the overpass there are more cars upside down in the woods. 2 or 3.
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Re: Amtrak derails, car on I-5 Washington state

Postby gman313 » Dec 18th, 2017, 10:21 am

Amtrak is the most dangerous way to travel in North America - all they do is derail

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Re: Amtrak derails, car on I-5 Washington state

Postby JagXKR » Dec 18th, 2017, 10:26 am

A google map of the way the track crosses I-5. It is a keft-right turning bridge to cross the highway.

https://goo.gl/maps/5J8eFGrhLur
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Re: Amtrak derails, car on I-5 Washington state

Postby ferri » Dec 18th, 2017, 10:54 am

They are saying 3 fatalities so far.

https://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-ne ... r-olympia/
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Re: Amtrak derails, car on I-5 Washington state

Postby my5cents » Dec 18th, 2017, 12:03 pm

Seems to be missing in all the online media I've read (but not CNN), is that this was the inaugural trip of a high speed commuter train. Other than some deaths, and 70+/- to hospital, this first trip went off without a hitch.

Bad timing for the governor of Washington, he was just recently visiting with our premier presenting the idea of high speed rail from Vancouver, South.
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Re: Amtrak derails, car on I-5 Washington state

Postby JagXKR » Dec 18th, 2017, 12:53 pm

That Bullet train could end up costing $54 Billion! That's ridiculous.

https://www.castanet.net/news/BC/214273 ... d-cost-54B
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Re: Amtrak derails, car on I-5 Washington state

Postby Glacier » Dec 18th, 2017, 1:31 pm

JagXKR wrote:That Bullet train could end up costing $54 Billion! That's ridiculous.

https://www.castanet.net/news/BC/214273 ... d-cost-54B

And we thought Site C was expensive!

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Re: Amtrak derails, car on I-5 Washington state

Postby dogspoiler » Dec 18th, 2017, 5:34 pm

I read the article this morning and I was trying to imagine what a passenger train crash at 450 KPH would be like. Think about going into a scene like that trying to help the passengers and get them out and transported.
The Amtrack crash was tiny compared to what could be coming.
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Re: Amtrak derails, car on I-5 Washington state

Postby GordonH » Dec 18th, 2017, 5:39 pm

gman313 wrote:Amtrak is the most dangerous way to travel in North America - all they do is derail


If this is true, then it points directly to poor rail maintenance.
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Re: Amtrak derails, car on I-5 Washington state

Postby averagejoe » Dec 18th, 2017, 5:41 pm

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Re: Amtrak derails, car on I-5 Washington state

Postby maryjane48 » Dec 18th, 2017, 6:24 pm

Mayor warned train could derail

https://www.google.ca/amp/s/globalnews. ... rning/amp/


A,train doing 80 mph in a 30 mph area, is the likely cause . There have been videeo of the train speed limit for that turn and train was going almost 3 times posted limit .

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Re: Amtrak derails, car on I-5 Washington state

Postby maryjane48 » Dec 18th, 2017, 7:33 pm

track chart prepared by the Washington State Department of Transportation shows the maximum speed drops from 127 kph to 48 kph for passenger trains just before the tracks curve to cross Interstate 5, which is where the train went off the tracks.


More info on track speed for that corner
http://m.huffingtonpost.ca/2017/12/18/a ... a-homepage

There is,unconfirmed reports,of a,truck being on the track but that has zero to do with the train speeding in a,slow zone
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