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Postby Smurf » Jan 23rd, 2018, 5:50 am

https://globalnews.ca/video/3980905/no- ... tail-store

https://www.amazon.com/b?node=16008589011

If we think we have employment, minimum wage and other problems now, wait till these babies get into full swing. They claim the cashiers etc are working in other areas like stalking shelves, baking, packaging etc but to me that is hard to believe as most of those positions already exist. How long will it be before they figure out a way to cut those jobs to. Does anyone believe that it is a coincidence that this store opened in Seattle where minimum wages have been raised and it is causing problems.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/money/na ... 431424001/

Governments may not be able to properly solve problems but business will. If wages become too high they will cut hours, cut employees, use robots and even close their doors if necessary. I have been talking to two couples from the Seattle area about the minimum wages and they both agree there were a lot of job losses and hours cut on the bottom end of the scale hurting those who can least afford it. The people working are now expected to work harder and do more for the bigger bucks. Time will tell but I'm sure this is not going to help our poverty problems.
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Re: Amazon Go

Postby Omnitheo » Jan 23rd, 2018, 5:53 am

Automation is going to occur regardless of what the minimum wage is. As for Amazon they’ve also opened up new call centres employing thousands.
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Re: Amazon Go

Postby jimmy4321 » Jan 23rd, 2018, 6:02 am

Is it not enough that governments have "Make Work" positions or projects?
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Re: Amazon Go

Postby JLives » Jan 23rd, 2018, 6:38 am

We're going to have to rethink employment and the social contract. Driving jobs will be obsolete soon too. We can't stop progress, we have to adapt.
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Re: Amazon Go

Postby Even Steven » Jan 23rd, 2018, 8:53 am

What's the point of a store that has no cashiers or stockboys where you have to get everything yourself...If all you have to do is order it on Amazon and it will be at your door next day?
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Re: Amazon Go

Postby Evan » Jan 23rd, 2018, 1:17 pm

Even Steven wrote:What's the point of a store that has no cashiers or stockboys where you have to get everything yourself...If all you have to do is order it on Amazon and it will be at your door next day?


It's a grocery/convenience store hybrid... So fresh sandwiches and stuff. Not stuff you'd order online for next day... More like where you'd go to grab a snack or lunch, or something to take home after work.

And there are stock people/people in store making the fresh made sandwiches / salads etc.

It's just built to be able to go in, grab whatever you want off the shelves, and walk back out.
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Re: Amazon Go

Postby Dizzy1 » Jan 23rd, 2018, 10:06 pm



I'll pass - thanks!
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Re: Amazon Go

Postby GordonH » Jan 23rd, 2018, 11:23 pm

Just as I will refuse to use self-checkers, I would just walk on by this store.

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Re: Amazon Go

Postby Queen K » Jan 23rd, 2018, 11:45 pm

I also refuse to use self-checkers. The moment they are more popular than real people, the stores will lay off the people.

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Re: Amazon Go

Postby Veovis » Jan 23rd, 2018, 11:54 pm

Queen K wrote:I also refuse to use self-checkers. The moment they are more popular than real people, the stores will lay off the people.

Nope. Not on me.


lol the self check at Canadian tire angered me and the lady standing there kept telling me how to do it better.....I was in a mood and stopped and looked her in the eye and stated "I DON'T WORK HERE".....

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Re: Amazon Go

Postby dirtybiker » Jan 24th, 2018, 12:24 am

Veovis wrote:
lol the self check at Canadian tire angered me and the lady standing there kept telling me how to do it better.....I was in a mood and stopped and looked her in the eye and stated "I DON'T WORK HERE".....


While being directed from the check-out line to the Self Check, I just stated,
"If I wanted to work here, I would apply. I''ll wait."

Me being the shy and reserved type, I made sure I was heard for WAY too far.... :smt045

Even ordering anything online is an absolute last resort.
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Re: Amazon Go

Postby Jlabute » Jan 24th, 2018, 9:16 am

Pretty cool. Many articles suggest Amazon patented a system using RFID, while other articles suggest this store is not using RFID but a fusion of different sensors and cameras and AI to determine the items you gather and/or put back.

"[Update, Jan. 13, 2017: Although the previous patent filings reference RFID technologies, Amazon says RFID is not implemented in the Amazon Go store.]" - Geekwire

"We used sensor fusion, much like you'd find in self-driving cars,..."

I would bet it would be very difficult and expensive to retrofit a store with the same. It's hard to get the definitive last word on what tech they are using. If RFID, then every item requires a transponder tag which adds cost to the item, plus someone is needed to tag the items correctly, and stock them. Checking out could be just having a bag of items scanned for their individual tags. This can have issues. If the solution is a fusion of sensors, then you may be limited by your computing power and how many people you can serve simultaneously. The more I read, the more it seems like not RFID.
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Re: Amazon Go

Postby Bsuds » Jan 24th, 2018, 9:44 am

I think until it's proven to be 100% accurate I would be checking my bills very closely.

I read in an article that Amazon changed the price of 1 item 8 times in one day back in 2014.
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Re: Amazon Go

Postby CapitalB » Jan 24th, 2018, 9:51 am

Bsuds wrote:I think until it's proven to be 100% accurate I would be checking my bills very closely.

I read in an article that Amazon changed the price of 1 item 8 times in one day back in 2014.


At best it'll not see you grab something, at worst it'll count it as something else.

Amazons prices are to a degree set by a computer algorithm, it factors in a few variables mainly what they payed, desired profit margin, what they think you specifically will pay etc.
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Re: Amazon Go

Postby Omnitheo » Jan 24th, 2018, 12:24 pm

Lmao at you “I don’t work here/if I wanted to work here”
Are you incapable of doing things for yourselves? Did you not browse around the store to find something, or do you tell someone to do it for you? The self checkout systems are dead easy, and much faster than standing behind someone counting their nickels.

You scan the items, and tap your phone to the machine. It’s so quick and easy. Same thing with ordering at McDonald’s with their automated systems. They are there for your convenience. If you’re set on being a Luddite though, you don’t need to use them. You don’t need to go to amazon’s store. Meanwhile the rest of us will speedily complete our shopping hassle free.
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