White South African farmers to be removed from their land

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Postby Jflem1983 » Mar 1st, 2018, 12:56 pm

Lets give our land back too. Teepees and caves it is. Makes sense. After all we did displace people who were here first. Racial crimes were committed even. Gasp. Yep. Burn down the cities.
Now they want to take our guns away . That would be just fine. Take em away from the criminals first . Ill gladly give u mine. "Charlie Daniels"

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Re: White South African farmers to be removed from their lan

Postby Bigjohn69 » Mar 1st, 2018, 1:02 pm

That maybe true but as far as land ownership ,land taken through war or oppression is not legal in terms of international law .

If the black land owners cant grow a crop of sagebrush means zero in anything except not being able to farm .

This should have happened years ago and the only ones complaining miss the aparthied years for some twisted reasons only they can understand
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Postby Hassel99 » Mar 1st, 2018, 3:24 pm

Bigjohn69 wrote:That maybe true but as far as land ownership ,land taken through war or oppression is not legal in terms of international law .

If the black land owners cant grow a crop of sagebrush means zero in anything except not being able to farm .

This should have happened years ago and the only ones complaining miss the aparthied years for some twisted reasons only they can understand



Do you own land in Canada? If so, when are you going to give it to a first nations family?

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Re: White South African farmers to be removed from their lan

Postby The Green Barbarian » Mar 1st, 2018, 4:15 pm

Bigjohn69 wrote:
Seems like a clear issue to me . People showed up , took land by force


What proof do you have of this claim? I realize that with your confirmation bias, you want it to be true. However just curious how much land was "taken by force". Have you actually read up on this?

,commited racial crimes for hundreds of years on the natives


What's a "racial crime"? The Zulus committed tons of "racial crime" in their day, wiping out entire tribes and civilizations. Should they give back all of their land too?


and now the rooster has come home to roost .


Not really. This is just a land grab by corrupt politicians. Just like it was in Zimbabwe. And the left will clap and cheer, as hundreds of thousands perish and starve. What a bunch of idiots.

I do not really see where any outrage should be except why it took so long


You are right. These people have only been living in complete peace for 300 or more years. Time to have their property stolen with no compensation by corrupt scumbags. Your acquiesence to this theft is actually frightening.
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Re: White South African farmers to be removed from their lan

Postby The Green Barbarian » Mar 1st, 2018, 4:17 pm

Bigjohn69 wrote:That maybe true but as far as land ownership ,land taken through war or oppression is not legal in terms of international law .


Except that it wasn't taken through war or oppression.

If the black land owners cant grow a crop of sagebrush means zero in anything except not being able to farm .


And hundreds of thousands will starve, mostly black people, just like in Zimbabwe. But who cares right?

This should have happened years ago


why

and the only ones complaining miss the aparthied years for some twisted reasons only they can understand


This land was settled hundreds of years before apartheid was ever conceived. You really need to get your facts straight.
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Re: White South African farmers to be removed from their lan

Postby Bigjohn69 » Mar 1st, 2018, 5:10 pm

One is either for aparthied rule or not . South africans will decide how they go forward and if that includes taking land back then so be it . Canada has land treatys and settlements that both sides agreed to . South africans and the non south africans had none of that . .big diff .
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Postby christopher » Mar 1st, 2018, 5:38 pm

Bigjohn69 wrote:One is either for aparthied rule or not . South africans will decide how they go forward and if that includes taking land back then so be it . Canada has land treatys and settlements that both sides agreed to . South africans and the non south africans had none of that . .big diff .


The Dutch started farming the land back in 1653 you make sound like they took over farmland. They carved it out of the bush just like Europeans did here in Canada. If South Africa wants the farms buy them out.

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Postby Bigjohn69 » Mar 1st, 2018, 5:43 pm

Again look up what really happened instead of listening to the extremists . You going to deny aparthied took place because that would be the same as saying millions of jews werent exterminated .

Trying to make aparthied sound like blueberry farmers in the fraser valley does zero for the nationalistic side .
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Postby christopher » Mar 1st, 2018, 5:51 pm

Bigjohn69 wrote:Again look up what really happened instead of listening to the extremists . You going to deny aparthied took place because that would be the same as saying millions of jews werent exterminated .

Trying to make aparthied sound like blueberry farmers in the fraser valley does zero for the nationalistic side .



So you support the slaughter of the white farmers

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Postby Brass Monkey » Mar 1st, 2018, 8:22 pm

Jflem1983 wrote:Lets give our land back too. Teepees and caves it is. Makes sense. After all we did displace people who were here first. Racial crimes were committed even. Gasp. Yep. Burn down the cities.


Nobody in the world would be surprised to see natives rebel against this newly imposed european society considering the widespread rape, pedophilia, land desecration and mass species extinction that europeans brought with them almost everywhere they went. I recall our American friends down south having a 2nd amendment right specifically to combat a tyrannical government. Is withholding the vote, abusing children in schools, and nearly killing off animal species as a means of domination not tyranny?
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Postby The Green Barbarian » Mar 1st, 2018, 11:21 pm

Bigjohn69 wrote:Again look up what really happened instead of listening to the extremists . You going to deny aparthied took place because that would be the same as saying millions of jews werent exterminated .

Trying to make aparthied sound like blueberry farmers in the fraser valley does zero for the nationalistic side .


Apartheid didn't exist in the 1600's and is totally irrelevant to this discussion.
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Re: White South African farmers to be removed from their lan

Postby bernie428 » Mar 2nd, 2018, 6:13 pm

If it was easy they would have done it years ago.
Even with stubborn old white people and stubborn old black people, if it was even close to easy, they'd do it.
You will find points on both sides for wrongs and rights.
One thing I find with people that have done next to no reading about the place is that they think every black person is native to that part of Africa. Or that all wars were white on black. Or that South Africa was some fruitful place that was fully occupied until the white murderers showed up.
There is no doubt that there are still many things to be equalled, rectified, corrected and made fair.
However, if anyone thinks there are no parallels to this place and Zimbabwe, they are idiotic at best.
In the end, it's still a world economy, people need to eat, and so on.
Zimbabwe was a total mess, people starved, and the same will happen to SA if they take this course.

I think it's the same question we have. And Northern Ireland, Gibraltar, etc. How long do you live in a place before you belong? 100 years, 200, 300, ?

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Postby bernie428 » Mar 2nd, 2018, 6:20 pm

Bigjohn69 wrote:One is either for aparthied rule or not . South africans will decide how they go forward and if that includes taking land back then so be it . Canada has land treatys and settlements that both sides agreed to . South africans and the non south africans had none of that . .big diff .



Well John, I'd say I'm against it.
However, to 'take land back', that person would have to be native to that spot.
That's not cut and dry in that part of the world.
Black does not mean native to South Africa.
I think this method will go bad for all of South Africa, regardless of colour.

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Re: White South African farmers to be removed from their lan

Postby averagejoe » Mar 4th, 2018, 9:48 am

Like this is going to happen...

Thousands Sign Petition Asking Trump to Let White Farmers in South Africa Migrate to U.S. After Country Votes to Force Them Off Land

Updated | More than 12,000 people have signed a petition asking President Donald Trump to let white people in South Africa emigrate to the U.S. amid a vote by the country's parliament favoring a motion that could see South Africa's constitution amended to allow for land to be stripped from owners without any compensation.

The motion, which will still need the approval of the South African Parliament's Constitutional Review Committee before an amendment can even be drafted, has once again stoked fears among the country's white farmers of a violent and disastrous land redistribution akin to that which crippled Zimbabwe in the 2000s.

The online petition calls on Trump to "take the steps necessary to initiate an emergency immigration plan allowing white Boers to come to the United States." Boer is the term used to describe South Africans of Dutch, German or Huguenot descent, who are also commonly referred to as Afrikaners.

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