Cashless society... you in?

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Postby WendyA777 » Oct 20th, 2018, 7:38 am

Well if you want to know what happens in a cashless society, read the Bible. It ain’t pretty. Revelations. Don’t be taking the MARK.

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Postby monilynno » Oct 20th, 2018, 8:41 am

forum wrote:The best way to always beat the Government system is to become a government employee.

No matter what happens, not your fault or problem.

You were just doing your job.


Did you see the recent story from Ottawa? It took 39 government employees and 300 emails to buy 1 TV. This is government run amok.

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Postby Bsuds » Oct 20th, 2018, 8:45 am

monilynno wrote:
Did you see the recent story from Ottawa? It took 39 government employees and 300 emails to buy 1 TV. This is government run amok.


I have not seen that. do you have a link? Otherwise it's just fake news.
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Postby Fancy » Oct 20th, 2018, 9:04 am

Fancy this, Fancy that and by the way, T*t for Tat

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Postby alanjh595 » Oct 20th, 2018, 9:05 am

Bsuds wrote:
monilynno wrote:
Did you see the recent story from Ottawa? It took 39 government employees and 300 emails to buy 1 TV. This is government run amok.


I have not seen that. do you have a link? Otherwise it's just fake news.


https://leaderpost.com/news/local-news/ ... 599db425e4
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Postby Bsuds » Oct 20th, 2018, 10:01 am

Wow, and my DW wasn't thrilled about me spending $800 for a 4k TV.
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Re: Cashless society... you in?

Postby t76turbo » Oct 29th, 2018, 8:44 am

dirtybiker wrote:It's official, I'm old.
A young gal, server, said "the only people who pay cash are
either old, or a drug dealer."

I guess old it is.



The new generation is way too used to pulling out the plastic. If only a debit card at first, it will morph into credit cards and then let the downward credit spiral begin. My parents thought me from an early age to use the money that was in my wallet. Once it runs out, you’d have to wait till next pay check. If anything was left over, well that would go to savings. I don’t consider myself old, early 40’s. I never bought anything I couldn’t afford. Especially not any toys, that would just sit in the garage.

Don’t live beyond your means! Too easy to do with financing and plastic!

The ex-wife didn’t like cash, always liked reaching for plastic and by end month was always in the red like clockwork, never learned. She did go bankrupt and lost her business . Her profession you ask...a registered bookkeeper!!!
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Re: Cashless society... you in?

Postby Queen K » Dec 18th, 2018, 10:30 pm

The final proof that cash is still going to be King!

Buy your pot with cash, not credit, if you want your personal information to remain private.

Unfreaking believable, Right? And for some buying on-line, that isn't even an option! :135: :swear:

https://www.castanet.net/edition/news-s ... htm#244905

Canada's privacy watchdog is warning marijuana users to pay with cash rather than plastic if they're worried about the collection of their personal information.

In a statement posted on his website, Privacy Commissioner Daniel Therrien says pot sellers and buyers need to better understand their privacy rights and obligations and has suggested a number of guidelines.

"Cannabis is illegal in most jurisdictions outside of Canada. The personal information of cannabis users is therefore very sensitive," Therrien said.

"Some countries may deny entry to individuals if they know they have purchased cannabis, even lawfully."

Some Canadians have been barred for life from entering the United States after admitting to using cannabis or being involved in the legal industry.

Therrien suggests buyers can avoid the collection of their personal information by using cash instead of credit cards when buying pot from legal retail outlets.

However this option is currently not available to Canadians who have little choice but to buy online because some provinces have only a limited number of retail stores or, in the case of Ontario, no retail outlets at all for several more months.

The Ontario Cannabis Store has already reported a privacy breach through Canada Post that affected approximately 4,500 individuals last month. Information from about two per cent of customer orders was accessed by a person using a Canada Post delivery tracking tool. The incident was reported to Ontario's privacy commissioner.

Therrien says cannabis purchasers should further guard their privacy by not providing retailers with more personal information than necessary, other than what is legally required to verify their age.

Video surveillance in pot shops should only be used if less privacy intrusive measures cannot be met, Therrien says. If retailers do use video surveillance, they must notify individuals with signage clearly visible to anyone before entering the store.

Cannabis stores should also only collect email addresses, and not customer names, for mailing lists or memberships, he added.

"Private organizations are required by law to develop policies and practices to meet their responsibilities under the (law)," Therrien says in the statement.

"The best way of ensuring (compliance) is for management to emphasize that protection of personal information is a company priority and to ensure that all staff are trained in, understand, and follow the privacy policy in everyday transactions."
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Re: Cashless society... you in?

Postby Queen K » May 2nd, 2019, 9:24 pm

This is interesting. In the UK, the use of cash was examined and determined to remain necessary to maintain.

https://www.bbc.com/news/business-48133093

Why was the use of cash even under a microscope in the first place?
Because the use of cash has been falling. However, there are three groups of people still needing cash, the elderly, the disadvantaged and the poor. All rely on cash. So the UK is keeping it - for now.
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Postby Urban Cowboy » May 2nd, 2019, 9:44 pm

Queen K wrote:This is interesting. In the UK, the use of cash was examined and determined to remain necessary to maintain.

https://www.bbc.com/news/business-48133093

Why was the use of cash even under a microscope in the first place?
Because the use of cash has been falling. However, there are three groups of people still needing cash, the elderly, the disadvantaged and the poor. All rely on cash. So the UK is keeping it - for now.


Don't forget the drug dealers, human traffickers, gun runners, CIA, etc. :biggrin:
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Postby Queen K » Jun 16th, 2019, 11:05 am

AND Chinese protestors who are demonstrating for democracy in Hong Kong.

They immediately grasped the use for cash transactions for their protests. Will their smart use of cash spur on a cashless society, forcing undemocratic governments to completely remove cash from flowing? Will cash be the spice of the World, as spice is to Dune?

So interesting what they will do from this time forward.

Let's take a look at what measures were used to try to protect privacy and themselves from draconian measures.

"Protests that expanded over the past week against a bill allowing extraditions to mainland China were marked by something unprecedented: A coordinated effort by demonstrators to leave no trace for authorities and their enhanced tracking systems.

Protesters used only secure digital messaging apps such as Telegram, and otherwise went completely analogue in their movements: buying single ride subway tickets instead of prepaid stored value cards, forgoing credit cards and mobile payments in favor of cash, and taking no selfies or photos of the chaos.

They wore face masks to obscure themselves from CCTVs and in fear of facial recognition software, and bought fresh pay-as-you-go SIM cards.

And, unlike the pro-democracy movement in 2014, the latest demonstrations also have remained intentionally leaderless in another attempt to frustrate police, who have used tear gas and rubber bullets against the crowds."

I believe cash is doomed myself.
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Re: Cashless society... you in?

Postby Davidjayjordan » Jun 16th, 2019, 11:12 am

WendyA777 wrote:Well if you want to know what happens in a cashless society, read the Bible. It ain’t pretty. Revelations. Don’t be taking the MARK.


Very true and is NOW being used in some Scandinavian countries with not to bright people thinking it is a an advancement and high tech, so they just received it without question without thinking.

Any questions just ask or maybe we should give a few direct Revelation quotes with recent implimentations.

If you don't have the MARK, you will not be able to function in the worldwide system, and your only other choice, learn to live by FAITH.
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Postby Davidjayjordan » Jun 16th, 2019, 11:16 am

OR go to the more godly third world, where they can not extinquish cash, as by the robbery of their wealth by the rich countries, their poverty dictates they must cash and carry, to try to live another day.

In so called rich materialistic countries, its absolutely silly to say cash is essential.. With such fear of credit scores, fear of starvation, fear of big brother, fear of repossession and foreclosures, we or Canains shall obey and put all their trust in the god they trust...on line banking, where with one stroke of a hidden finger, your whole life will be extinquished, as that is where your faith lies
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Re: Cashless society... you in?

Postby Silverstarqueen » Jun 16th, 2019, 1:24 pm

monilynno wrote:
forum wrote:The best way to always beat the Government system is to become a government employee.

No matter what happens, not your fault or problem.

You were just doing your job.


Did you see the recent story from Ottawa? It took 39 government employees and 300 emails to buy 1 TV. This is government run amok.


So it was so install 65" TVs (not indicated how many) on 11 floors of an office building, not quite as simple as "just buy a TV".
This is news reporting gone amok.
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Re: Cashless society... you in?

Postby Queen K » Sep 18th, 2019, 6:27 am

https://ca.news.yahoo.com/montreal-man- ... 00115.html

Got cash? Hard cash as in rolled coins? The way they are supposed to be rolled?

What if your bank is this man's bank? And does not accept legal tender? As manufactured by the Royal Canadian Mint every freaking day?

What does it mean when a bank can NOT accept rolled hard currency? And still be legally in the banking business? What kind of precedent does this create? Are there ramifications later, which no one is thinking of because our form of cash has been around since the creation of the Middle Ages?

Cashlessness. Use cash or lose it.
Using cash is one of your few forms of privacy: use it or lose it. 1984 isn't the only Orwell novel that needs to to made fiction again.

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