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Re: Check your back alley....

Postby Queen K » Sep 30th, 2010, 1:48 pm

Okay, ONCE AGAIN, check your back alley and yard, the RCMP were once again hunting down people who were reported going into people's backyards in the downtown core.

Officer said, "4 men were reported for suspicious activity but I have to go now because they got them."

And crime is supposedly down in Kelowna. Sure.
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Re: Check your back alley....

Postby zerograv » Sep 30th, 2010, 5:16 pm

I live in the capri area. I have people in my yard on an almost nightly basis, anything that isn't bolted down will be removed the night of leaving it there. My vehicles have been broken into multiple times since I moved in just over a year ago. I have motion sensor lights, but to no avail.

I have spoken to the police about this and they say they can't do anything unless I catch the people red handed.....well first of all it's their job to catch them, not mine. Second of all; I had a stranger come INTO my home on one occasion and refuse to leave (someone was chasing him for a drug debt) and it took the police hours to show up. It took about 20 minutes to force the man out with a baseball bat while my girlfriend hid,locked in the bathroom. The police felt compelled to remind me that I could be charged if I had hit the man. I got my case # and haven't heard anything about it since (of course)

So to hear that crime is down is obviously a stretch of the truth. Crime is up, people reporting crime is down because even when they report it NOTHING comes of it.


On a side note, Its funny that you talk of a Norco bike.

I found a black Norco on my property one morning and thought I'd try a little experiment. I hid it behind my detached garage in some bushes and low and behold the next morning it was gone!
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Re: Check your back alley....

Postby Andy S » Sep 30th, 2010, 6:18 pm

Queen K wrote:Okay, ONCE AGAIN, check your back alley and yard, the RCMP were once again hunting down people who were reported going into people's backyards in the downtown core.
Officer said, "4 men were reported for suspicious activity but I have to go now because they got them."
And crime is supposedly down in Kelowna. Sure.


I suppose someone will say this topic belongs in some other thread ...
QK my friend, yup the courthouse docket only had 26 pages today - down from 28 the other day but oops; up from 8 pages on Monday. There will probably be posters who yell "paranoia" and "hype monger" - whatever. We hear talk & read about about unreported crime in our town. Sure, murders and muddled up old personal-use pot growers busting themselves, sells on the headlines.
The back alleys all over town, and More Alleys than others, can at any random time or place seethe with creepy crawlers.
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Just look at the "Charge Age Date" ie 0 Days=yesterday, 14 obviously 2 weeks ago. And the "breach of's .." are just the lowlifes walking out through the revolving door.
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Re: Check your back alley....

Postby steven lloyd » Sep 30th, 2010, 6:45 pm

zerograv wrote: I had a stranger come INTO my home on one occasion and refuse to leave (someone was chasing him for a drug debt) and it took the police hours to show up. It took about 20 minutes to force the man out with a baseball bat while my girlfriend hid,locked in the bathroom. The police felt compelled to remind me that I could be charged if I had hit the man. I got my case # and haven't heard anything about it since (of course)

Wow! That is distressing. I really have a hard time believing any judge would convict you even if Crown would approve the charges in the first place. You are allowed to use reasonable force to protect yourself, and given the fact you were also protecting not only your home but your girlfriend I really doubt Crown would proceed with it. I think I would have smoked him.
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Re: Check your back alley....

Postby ILBT uh-huh » Sep 30th, 2010, 6:49 pm

I remember back in 'Nam. They'd say "smoke em if you got em". Now. I say "smoke if you catch em!"
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Re: Check your back alley....

Postby KtownCouple » Sep 30th, 2010, 7:18 pm

steven lloyd wrote:
zerograv wrote: I had a stranger come INTO my home on one occasion and refuse to leave (someone was chasing him for a drug debt) and it took the police hours to show up. It took about 20 minutes to force the man out with a baseball bat while my girlfriend hid,locked in the bathroom. The police felt compelled to remind me that I could be charged if I had hit the man. I got my case # and haven't heard anything about it since (of course)

Wow! That is distressing. I really have a hard time believing any judge would convict you even if Crown would approve the charges in the first place. You are allowed to use reasonable force to protect yourself, and given the fact you were also protecting not only your home but your girlfriend I really doubt Crown would proceed with it. I think I would have smoked him.


U shoulda beat him down. No jury in the world would convict you of defending yourself, a woman and your property from some druggie.
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Re: Check your back alley....

Postby Queen K » Sep 30th, 2010, 7:23 pm

Andy, you-know-who former landlords actually called the police and this is what came of it.

Seen: 3 guys in a grey car and one in a back yard, over the fence and up to the house.
Called: RCMP
Caught: four guys, 2 with id, 2 with no id.
All four let go.

Yup, even if the RCMP have them, it's 'catch and release.'

No idea if the 5 hyperdermic needles found in the field have been there long or not.
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Re: Check your back alley....

Postby ILBT uh-huh » Sep 30th, 2010, 8:13 pm

We have lived in this neighbourhood for over seven years and just recently some vehicles got broken into. We (the neighbours and I) didn't take long to figure out the source of the problem. There will be no catch and release. In a conversation with an officer one day, he mentioned that he wouldn't have a problem if somebody caught somebody, and the culprit "fell down repeatedly".





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Re: Check your back alley....

Postby Queen K » Sep 30th, 2010, 8:21 pm

If your dog is a poodle, I will show you no mercy. :runforlife:
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Re: Check your back alley....

Postby ILBT uh-huh » Sep 30th, 2010, 8:27 pm

:dyinglaughing: I never get tired of kicking small yappy dogs. Not to worry. Mine is a big muscular guard dog breed.

Lot of good that does when he's lying on the bed with me snoring all night.

Guard dog my butt! I do have him trained to attack on command, tho.

BTW. We don't have a back alley.
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Re: Check your back alley....

Postby Bpeep » Sep 30th, 2010, 8:30 pm

zerograv wrote:I live in the capri area. I have people in my yard on an almost nightly basis, anything that isn't bolted down will be removed the night of leaving it there. My vehicles have been broken into multiple times since I moved in just over a year ago. I have motion sensor lights, but to no avail.

I have spoken to the police about this and they say they can't do anything unless I catch the people red handed.....well first of all it's their job to catch them, not mine. Second of all; I had a stranger come INTO my home on one occasion and refuse to leave (someone was chasing him for a drug debt) and it took the police hours to show up. It took about 20 minutes to force the man out with a baseball bat while my girlfriend hid,locked in the bathroom. The police felt compelled to remind me that I could be charged if I had hit the man. I got my case # and haven't heard anything about it since (of course)

So to hear that crime is down is obviously a stretch of the truth. Crime is up, people reporting crime is down because even when they report it NOTHING comes of it.


On a side note, Its funny that you talk of a Norco bike.

I found a black Norco on my property one morning and thought I'd try a little experiment. I hid it behind my detached garage in some bushes and low and behold the next morning it was gone!

Give him a real good beating about the knees. Call the cops. Get rid of the bat. Tell the authorities he fell. Twice.
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Re: Check your back alley....

Postby ILBT uh-huh » Sep 30th, 2010, 8:35 pm

Why would you need to tell the authorities twice?
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Re: Check your back alley....

Postby Queen K » Sep 30th, 2010, 8:36 pm

old-bushman wrote:Why would you need to tell the authorities twice?


That he fell twice!!! :discodance:
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Re: Check your back alley....

Postby ILBT uh-huh » Sep 30th, 2010, 8:43 pm

Only twice? I would beat any thief I caught in my back yard like there is no tomorrow. I don't fight to lose. They'd be haulin' his/her sorry butt out of here in an ambulance.
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Re: Check your back alley....

Postby prairieflower » Oct 2nd, 2010, 1:42 am

Thank heavens I live up in the Glenrosa section of Westbank, where we have no alleys. Just bears, deers and the gosh darn cats that think our yard is their litter box... :127:
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