Transsexual living in the Okanagan. Questions?

[my2rotties]

Then fix the offending piece of the anatomy. In this case, the brain. If the wiring don't serve the house the way you want it, you don't change the house to suit the wiring. You fix the wiring.

Quit being such a hillbilly, we are now in the modern ages with modern medicine. We are lucky we were born hetero... which makes it hard to begin to even relate to what these people go through day to day. For me, I am sure darned glad I was born hetero (so is my hubby), since I have been witness to what people that don't fall under the "norm" endure. My favotie client is a gay man, and I was on the job site with a bunch of lewd ignorant hetero homophobic men that were making *bleep* jokes loud enough for this poor man and his partner to hear... He probably heard me going ballistic on them numerous times, and they shut up... for a little while.

Just because you don't fully understand or relate to something does not mean you should cast such harsh judgment.

[normaM]

Then fix the offending piece of the anatomy. In this case, the brain. If the wiring don't serve the house the way you want it, you don't change the house to suit the wiring. You fix the wiring.

Quit being such a hillbilly, we are now in the modern ages with modern medicine. We are lucky we were born hetero... which makes it hard to begin to even relate to what these people go through day to day. For me, I am sure darned glad I was born hetero (so is my hubby), since I have been witness to what people that don't fall under the "norm" endure. My favotie client is a gay man, and I was on the job site with a bunch of lewd ignorant hetero homophobic men that were making *bleep* jokes loud enough for this poor man and his partner to hear... He probably heard me going ballistic on them numerous times, and they shut up... for a little while.

Just because you don't fully understand or relate to something does not mean you should cast such harsh judgment.

you are insulting hillbillies

[motorhomebabe]

No kidding.I cant understand why some people are so catty. If they are uncomfortable with the topic ,they should stay off. Thank God they are a dying breed.

[Tumult]

Then fix the offending piece of the anatomy. In this case, the brain. If the wiring don't serve the house the way you want it, you don't change the house to suit the wiring. You fix the wiring.

I'm not sure your analogy is fitting in gender identity....to me it seems you're suggesting that if a homeowner doesn't suit the house rather than modify the house to suit them we should modify the homeowner until they think the house is ok....

[mtnman1]

A homeowner has the "choice" to buy or not. There is no problem with the homeowner, the problem is still with the wiring. After all, the house looks normal. It takes a specialist, (electrition) to tell you that the wires are crossed but, he can fix the wiring, easier than rebuilding the house around the electrical panel.

[Advocate]

A homeowner has the "choice" to buy or not. There is no problem with the homeowner, the problem is still with the wiring. After all, the house looks normal. It takes a specialist, (electrition) to tell you that the wires are crossed but, he can fix the wiring, easier than rebuilding the house around the electrical panel.

One cannot compare the wiring of a house with the wiring of a human brain.
A computer might be a closer comparison, but even the computer is not of the human kind.
There is a huge component missing from the analogy, that of feelings, spirit, emotions, sexuality, soul.....on and on and on.
The analogy has good intent, but it is ineffective and irrelevant.

[CatherineC]

A homeowner has the "choice" to buy or not. There is no problem with the homeowner, the problem is still with the wiring. After all, the house looks normal. It takes a specialist, (electrition) to tell you that the wires are crossed but, he can fix the wiring, easier than rebuilding the house around the electrical panel.

One cannot compare the wiring of a house with the wiring of a human brain.
A computer might be a closer comparison, but even the computer is not of the human kind.
The analogy has good intent, but it is ineffective and irrelevant.

Besides, this is the internet, everything here must be a CAR analogy.
Sheesh, doesn't everyone know this?
;)

Can we move on? I'd really hate for this thread to get locked because of this guy.

[westsidebud]

Mtnmaniac, did your parents have any children that lived?

I think he was dropped, I cant believe people in this day and age are so ignorant

[Piecemaker]

A homeowner has the "choice" to buy or not. There is no problem with the homeowner, the problem is still with the wiring. After all, the house looks normal. It takes a specialist, (electrition) to tell you that the wires are crossed but, he can fix the wiring, easier than rebuilding the house around the electrical panel.

Exactly. And that's why your analogy doesn't work. None of us have the "choice" as to the body that houses us. NO CHOICE. We don't choose how we are "wired" and it isn't something that can be "rewired", therefore the ONLY change that individuals CAN make is to change their body when it does not adequately house their gender.
Gender is a vital part of identity. Imagine waking up with a body opposite what your gender is, but having no memory of ever having your previous body and no chance of it reverting back to what it was. Imagine everyone in your life relating to you as the outward gender of your body and all the societal expectations and norms that go with your body's gender. The essence of who you are would be clocked in profound pain and anger. Your spirit would be screaming. In short, it would be hell.
(The only thing good about that scenerio is that it would make a great movie plot for those housed in bodies that match their genders to be entertained by.)

[fumbler]

Do you know many people who are transsexual who also were born with hypospadias? I read that one in 400 boys are born with it and that many are gay or transsexual. Their suicide rates are also higher, I read.

I am wishing you all the luck in the world - and I don't mind coughing up public health dollars for you.

A recent survey that was done in Canada within the past few years has MTF suicide rate at 40% and FTM at 46% for those who were surveyed and had attempted suicide. This doesn't take into account obviously those who did not survive their suicide attempts.

[fumbler]

Catherine told me earlier today that she'd started this thread so I figured I'd come read up on it and hopefully not hijack the thread by piping up and letting people know she's not what I'm coming to discover as being the only transperson living in Kelowna (until recently, I thought I was the only transperson living in the area). There are actually several transfolk living in the Okanagan!

I'm also a transexual but going the opposite direction - that is, female to male. Someone was asking if its possible to transition and be truly happy and I say, of course it is! This coming from someone who thru the process of their transition, has sobered up after being an extremely heavy drinker, slept around a lot and smoked a LOT of pot. I think just like anyone else, if there are things in your life that don't make you happy, you simply won't be happy and transitioning alone will not fix that.

I have a good job, a loving and supportive family, a girlfriend and a 3 year old son. I have generally become a lot happier person thru my transition and with just one more step in my process to go, happy to almost be thru it going on 5 years later. I moved here from Vancouver two years ago and have to admit that part of what I do not like about Kelowna, is that I feel I cannot be openly trans when I'm out in public due to safety concerns (esp with having a son) - although that is starting to change for me in the past six months coming to realize that that is part of my unhappiness in living here. I have become more open to putting myself out there to help normalize being trans to people in these parts because to most people, we are to outsiders your average white, heterosexual family. Living in Vancouver was a whole different story.

Someone was complaining about having to pay for SRS surgeries and we should have to pay for it ourselves, believe me, we do in more ways then one - we also pay taxes as well and are supposed to also have access to free healthcare. MSP approves funding for surgeries but the amount of hoops, waitlists and crud you have to deal with to actually get into an OR for them to pay for it is so ridiculous that most people end up paying for themselves and then guess what, we just end up getting it back on our taxes anyways because it's a tax write off! In the past 4-5 years, I know of one transman who had his chest surgery fully paid for by MSP. ONE!

Now, for one surgery I had - which was my hysterectomy which was fully funded by MSP, it has eradicated one medical condition I had (PCOS which I know someone else was asking about earlier) and because of having PCOS, being on Testosterone and the history of cancer in my family, them funding my surgery will have saved them money in the long run from now having prevented me from more then likely getting either uteran, cervical and/or ovarian cancer. I find it very unfortunate that our medical system does not practice preventative medicine - but thankfully for us transguys, they do this partially as a preventative measure. My chest surgery, which will also help prevent breast cancer, which my family also has a history of getting, is something I have been working on getting onto an OR table now for over four years and unless hell freezes over, I will be paying for it out of pocket and looking forward to the tax refund.

I am also open to talking about transctuff so feel free to ask away or PM if necessary.

[kyle meise]

Hi im wondering how to meet local transsexuals

[whelsel]

hello how are you I'm Wayne I have a few Transgender friends that I meet.If you ever need a friend I'm here.
Wayne

[jamapple]

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