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Re: Signs of the coming American collapse

Postby Homeownertoo » Jan 22nd, 2012, 9:47 pm

Babbitman wrote:If Iran produced a nuke, it would only need a rocket for it that will make it into Israel.
The usa wont let that happen.
Israel is the only friend uncle sam has over there.

Personally, I think that is one scene thats gonna get ugly.

Your knowledge of Israel is obsolete. Iran is a deadly threat but they'll need a larger stockpile than that.
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Re: Signs of the coming American collapse

Postby Bman » Jan 23rd, 2012, 12:22 am

They will need a larger stockpile than what?

If my knowledge of Israel is so obsolete, perhaps you tell me of one other friend that the usa has in the middle east?
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Re: Signs of the coming American collapse

Postby Homeownertoo » Jan 23rd, 2012, 9:16 am

You obviously know nothing of Israel's anti-missile capability. And what does knowledge of Israel (or lack thereof) have to do with America's friends in the mideast. Anyway, American isn't looking for friends there. Its concern is with shared and overlapping interests. You have a pretty primitive view of foreign relations.
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Re: Signs of the coming American collapse

Postby steelrules » Jan 23rd, 2012, 10:50 am

Homeownertoo wrote:You obviously know nothing of Israel's anti-missile capability. And what does knowledge of Israel (or lack thereof) have to do with America's friends in the mideast. Anyway, American isn't looking for friends there. Its concern is with shared and overlapping interests. You have a pretty primitive view of foreign relations.


Nothing more primitive than a war monger.
Israel has between 75 and 400 nuclear war heads and the mind set to use them, so they don't need any help form the west.
If anyone has an out dated world view it's you homeowner, stuck in the cold war era.

All this neo-con war mongering will lead to a global war, if you would care to read a news paper once in a while you'd know that both Russia and China have allied then selves with Iran, that Japan has been given a pass on the oil embargo against Iran, that China and India will continue to buy oil from Iran priced in renminbi not US dollars.
So despite all the economic terrorism from the US and western countries Iran will continue on it's path.

A prediction, watch for the Israelies to launch an unprovoked attack against Iran soon.

All this is nothing more than another war for oil.
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Re: Signs of the coming American collapse

Postby averagejoe » Jan 23rd, 2012, 12:22 pm

Homeownertoo wrote:
Babbitman wrote:If Iran produced a nuke, it would only need a rocket for it that will make it into Israel.
The usa wont let that happen.
Israel is the only friend uncle sam has over there.

Personally, I think that is one scene thats gonna get ugly.

Your knowledge of Israel is obsolete. Iran is a deadly threat but they'll need a larger stockpile than that.


homeownertoo...do tell us, if Iran is such a war mongering nation as you make them out to be. Tell us the last war they were in and what year?
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Re: Signs of the coming American collapse

Postby averagejoe » Jan 23rd, 2012, 12:24 pm

Homeownertoo wrote:You obviously know nothing of Israel's anti-missile capability. And what does knowledge of Israel (or lack thereof) have to do with America's friends in the mideast. Anyway, American isn't looking for friends there. Its concern is with shared and overlapping interests. You have a pretty primitive view of foreign relations.


Here is homeowntoo spouting off again pretending to be more knowledgeable than everyone else.....all bow!
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Re: Signs of the coming American collapse

Postby Homeownertoo » Jan 23rd, 2012, 3:24 pm

steelrules wrote:
Homeownertoo wrote:You obviously know nothing of Israel's anti-missile capability. And what does knowledge of Israel (or lack thereof) have to do with America's friends in the mideast. Anyway, American isn't looking for friends there. Its concern is with shared and overlapping interests. You have a pretty primitive view of foreign relations.


Nothing more primitive than a war monger.
Israel has between 75 and 400 nuclear war heads and the mind set to use them, so they don't need any help form the west.
If anyone has an out dated world view it's you homeowner, stuck in the cold war era.

All this neo-con war mongering will lead to a global war, if you would care to read a news paper once in a while you'd know that both Russia and China have allied then selves with Iran, that Japan has been given a pass on the oil embargo against Iran, that China and India will continue to buy oil from Iran priced in renminbi not US dollars.
So despite all the economic terrorism from the US and western countries Iran will continue on it's path.

A prediction, watch for the Israelies to launch an unprovoked attack against Iran soon.

All this is nothing more than another war for oil.

I'm not sure why you so enjoy confirming your abysmal lack of knowledge and understanding. What a joke. :dyinglaughing:
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Re: Signs of the coming American collapse

Postby Homeownertoo » Jan 23rd, 2012, 3:25 pm

averagejoe wrote:
Homeownertoo wrote:You obviously know nothing of Israel's anti-missile capability. And what does knowledge of Israel (or lack thereof) have to do with America's friends in the mideast. Anyway, American isn't looking for friends there. Its concern is with shared and overlapping interests. You have a pretty primitive view of foreign relations.


Here is homeowntoo spouting off again pretending to be more knowledgeable than everyone else.....all bow!

No need to pretend when it comes to below-average Joe. Everyone is more knowledgeable.
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Re: Signs of the coming American collapse

Postby averagejoe » Jan 23rd, 2012, 3:33 pm

Homeownertoo wrote:
averagejoe wrote:
Homeownertoo wrote:You obviously know nothing of Israel's anti-missile capability. And what does knowledge of Israel (or lack thereof) have to do with America's friends in the mideast. Anyway, American isn't looking for friends there. Its concern is with shared and overlapping interests. You have a pretty primitive view of foreign relations.


Here is homeowntoo spouting off again pretending to be more knowledgeable than everyone else.....all bow!

No need to pretend when it comes to below-average Joe. Everyone is more knowledgeable.


Thanks rundownhomeownertoo! \:D/
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Re: Signs of the coming American collapse

Postby steelrules » Jan 23rd, 2012, 3:50 pm

Homeownertoo wrote:
averagejoe wrote:
Homeownertoo wrote:You obviously know nothing of Israel's anti-missile capability. And what does knowledge of Israel (or lack thereof) have to do with America's friends in the mideast. Anyway, American isn't looking for friends there. Its concern is with shared and overlapping interests. You have a pretty primitive view of foreign relations.


Here is homeowntoo spouting off again pretending to be more knowledgeable than everyone else.....all bow!

No need to pretend when it comes to below-average Joe. Everyone is more knowledgeable.


YOUR A WARMONGER and all you can do is INSULT because you can't make an argument against the FACTS I present, It's really sad for you.
Here's something for you to chew on.
Palistine is nothing more than the Warsaw Ghetto of our generation, adminstrated by Israel instead of the Nazis, and the sooner the US stops backing this atrocity the sooner there can be peace in the middle east.
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Re: Signs of the coming American collapse

Postby NAB » Jan 23rd, 2012, 4:41 pm

averagejoe wrote:
Homeownertoo wrote:
Babbitman wrote:If Iran produced a nuke, it would only need a rocket for it that will make it into Israel.
The usa wont let that happen.
Israel is the only friend uncle sam has over there.

Personally, I think that is one scene thats gonna get ugly.

Your knowledge of Israel is obsolete. Iran is a deadly threat but they'll need a larger stockpile than that.


homeownertoo...do tell us, if Iran is such a war mongering nation as you make them out to be. Tell us the last war they were in and what year?



September 1980 to August 1988, ....the longest conventional war of the 20th century by the way.

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Re: Signs of the coming American collapse

Postby Queen K » Jan 23rd, 2012, 4:43 pm

It's easy to forget the Iran/Iraqi War and it's easier to forget that the USA supplied both sides.
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Re: Signs of the coming American collapse

Postby averagejoe » Jan 23rd, 2012, 5:30 pm

Queen K wrote:It's easy to forget the Iran/Iraqi War and it's easier to forget that the USA supplied both sides.


I probably should have said...when did Iran last start a war?

On 17 September 1980 Sadam Hussein announced that he was ending the treaty with Iran that had been agreed in 1975, five days later the Iraqi armed forces had started a massive offensive and by the end of October 1980 Khorramshar, the largest port in Iran had fallen to Iraqi forces, who were now threatening the Iranian oil capital of Abadan and the regional capital of Khuzestan.

http://www.historyofwar.org/articles/wars_iraniraq.html
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Re: Signs of the coming American collapse

Postby sooperphreek » Jan 23rd, 2012, 5:31 pm

Homeownertoo wrote:
Babbitman wrote:The UN lost all its credibility thanks to the usa.
The usa has its populace living in fear, just where they want them.
The usa's economy is terminally trashed, regardless what they want you to believe.

Dont discount India.
Huge tech savy population, some of the best education facilities in the world, and a very formidable military.

You might not be so gung ho on India if you had actually been there in recent years. I have great respect for the Indian people, but it will take more than a million software engineers to craft it into an economic superpower.

Your misreading of the US economy is risible, though another four years of Obamacare and we might see eye to eye.


the middle class in india (doctors, lawyers, professionals) is about 350000000 strong. thats a little less than the entire population of america. thats some serious buying power. technology sector is better there, research is better there, and the economy is better there. whats not to like?????
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Re: Signs of the coming American collapse

Postby Bman » Jan 23rd, 2012, 5:57 pm

Homeowner, reading your responses wouldnt be as bad as it is if you were less dogmatic and condescending.
I am entitled to my opinion, you are entitled to yours.
You only lessen yourself when you respond the way you do.
If you are in fact the all-knowing, perhaps you should take the helm of the free world and lead us all into nirvana.
Is the world getting stupider, or is it just getting easier for stupid people to have their thoughts heard?
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