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Re: Teacher bargaining

Postby George+ » Apr 15th, 2013, 7:10 am

Give it up, Urbane.

You know the ad does not even mention the NDP.

In your unreal world they would spend nothing despite
All the crap dumped on them by the Liberals.
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Re: Teacher bargaining

Postby XT225 » Apr 15th, 2013, 7:26 am

George+ wrote:Give it up, Urbane.

You know the ad does not even mention the NDP.

In your unreal world they would spend nothing despite
All the crap dumped on them by the Liberals.



Bang on, George+. You're completely right; there is no mention of the NDP in that BCTF commercial. It only suggests voting for a Govt that will support kids (remember, families first?) and teaching in general. Spending money on advertising, Urbane? Gee....what was the cost of the Christy infomercial last night? :dyinglaughing:
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Re: Teacher bargaining

Postby kibbs » Apr 15th, 2013, 7:31 am

Gee....what was the cost of the Christy infomercial last night?

100000 dollars
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Re: Teacher bargaining

Postby kibbs » Apr 15th, 2013, 7:31 am

Gee....what was the cost of the Christy infomercial last night?

100000 dollars
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Re: Teacher bargaining

Postby Urbane » Apr 15th, 2013, 8:04 am

    XT225 wrote:Bang on, George+. You're completely right; there is no mention of the NDP in that BCTF commercial. It only suggests voting for a Govt that will support kids (remember, families first?) and teaching in general. Spending money on advertising, Urbane? Gee....what was the cost of the Christy infomercial last night? :dyinglaughing:
You're essentially comparing the BCTF to a political party since you're referencing the advertising of the Liberal Party and that of the BCTF and you're not entirely wrong. While the BCTF right now functions as a quasi-political party as an arm of the NDP there is an important distinction to be noted. Anyone is free to join or not to join the BC Liberal Party. Public school teachers on the other hand must belong to the BCTF. And they pay dues. And whether or not they support the NDP part of their dues goes toward these pro-NDP ads. And don't you see the hypocrisy in those ads when they claim there's not enough money for education and then you find out that in Vancouver School District this last year $1.6 million was spent on teacher massages? How many people here think that's a good use of public money? How many think that there's a better use?
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Re: Teacher bargaining

Postby George+ » Apr 15th, 2013, 10:02 am

BCTF an arm of the NDP. :dyinglaughing: :dyinglaughing: :dyinglaughing:

I guess if you pay for the benefit you might as well use it.

Let' see number of teachers in Vancouver divided into blah blah blah

Just urbane desperately grasping at straws, again.
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Re: Teacher bargaining

Postby sooperphreek » Apr 15th, 2013, 10:04 am

and anyone that gets a job at mcdonalds, tim hortons, or any other fast food joint knows that they are going to get minimum wage. no one holds a gun to their head either and they know what they are getting into. if you want to be a teacher then caveat emptor. you know exactly what you are signing up for - years before you sign your contract and you are in university. nothing wrong with the teachers being a union at all.
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Re: Teacher bargaining

Postby logicalview » Apr 15th, 2013, 10:09 am

sooperphreek wrote: nothing wrong with the teachers being a union at all.


Right. Until they decide that their selfish needs outweigh the needs of the kids, and they go on strike. Then there are huge moral and economic issues with them being in a union. And that's just not right. No one should be given the power to use children as a bargaining tool. That's just morally wrong, and there's something wrong in your head if you think that is ok.
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Re: Teacher bargaining

Postby logicalview » Apr 15th, 2013, 10:11 am

XT225 wrote:
Bang on, George+. You're completely right; there is no mention of the NDP in that BCTF commercial. It only suggests voting for a Govt that will support kids (remember, families first?) and teaching in general. Spending money on advertising, Urbane? Gee....what was the cost of the Christy infomercial last night? :dyinglaughing:


So what party is that? What party is going to "support kids"?? I have yet to see any party put out a platform. The only thing regarding George that is "bang on" is his need to be checked into a mental health facility, he's a brain-damaged lying communist.
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Re: Teacher bargaining

Postby Rwede » Apr 15th, 2013, 10:20 am

Urbane wrote:You're essentially comparing the BCTF to a political party since you're referencing the advertising of the Liberal Party and that of the BCTF and you're not entirely wrong. While the BCTF right now functions as a quasi-political party as an arm of the NDP there is an important distinction to be noted. Anyone is free to join or not to join the BC Liberal Party. Public school teachers on the other hand must belong to the BCTF. And they pay dues. And whether or not they support the NDP part of their dues goes toward these pro-NDP ads. And don't you see the hypocrisy in those ads when they claim there's not enough money for education and then you find out that in Vancouver School District this last year $1.6 million was spent on teacher massages? How many people here think that's a good use of public money? How many think that there's a better use?



Jack Layton, the BCTF's folk hero, spent lots of time in massage parlours. That must be why the teachers spent $1.6 million on rub'n'tugs too! :dyinglaughing:


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Re: Teacher bargaining

Postby sooperphreek » Apr 15th, 2013, 10:50 am

you are just jealous
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Re: Teacher bargaining

Postby Urbane » Apr 15th, 2013, 11:15 am

Question for George and Sooperphreek: How much should the $1.6 million budget for teacher massages in Vancouver be increased? I realize if the budget is increased to $2 million a year you would both consider that increase a "cut" so how much should the budget for massages be increased?
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Re: Teacher bargaining

Postby sooperphreek » Apr 15th, 2013, 11:44 am

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Re: Teacher bargaining

Postby albertabound » Apr 15th, 2013, 12:00 pm

Teachers should not be allowed to strike, if they do not do their job , fire them , there are a lot of teachers looking for work.Govt. should make a law that they should get x # of % increase if they do the job. :hailjo:
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Re: Teacher bargaining

Postby George+ » Apr 15th, 2013, 12:08 pm

Another silly question, by Urbane.
Maybe sort out the source.
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