John Oliver on Climate Change

[Glacier]

Except that there is ample evidence. You just choose to ignore it.

If there is, please post it. I've asked you several times to do so, and all you say, "it's out there." Ya, right. That's the same answer Truthers give when you ask for their evidence.

Facts:
- We haven't warmed in the past 17 years, 9 months.
- Hurricanes are not getting stronger.
- Tornadoes aren't getting stronger.
- Floods aren't getting worse.
- Droughts aren't getting worse.
- Extreme temperatures aren't becoming more frequent.
- Global sea ice is above average.

If you dispute any of the following please present your case with actual data. Don't just post more doomsday rapture prognostication porn.

[Omnitheo]

Alright, so now that extremists from both sides of the issue have weighed in...

BelieveNothing, What is the endgame to this climate manipulation? Governments can't even control how much plastic gets dumped into a lake, but somehow the "global government" is controlling individual raindrops. What is their goal? are they trying to kill people? (who pay taxes and necessitate the need for larger governments). Are they brainwashing us? (if so, then why do I still have 0 desire to vote Harper?) Are they trying to make us sick? (the government which funds healthcare would naturally want to reduce costs and illness, not increase it).

[Omnitheo]

If there is, please post it. I've asked you several times to do so, and all you say, "it's out there." Ya, right. That's the same answer Truthers give when you ask for their evidence.

Facts:
- We haven't warmed in the past 17 years, 9 months.
- Hurricanes are not getting stronger.
- Tornadoes aren't getting stronger.
- Floods aren't getting worse.
- Droughts aren't getting worse.
- Extreme temperatures aren't becoming more frequent.
- Global sea ice is above average.

If you dispute any of the following please present your case with actual data. Don't just post more doomsday rapture prognostication porn.

That one is from NOAA


That one is from NASA

what do those organizations know though? They could be wrong.

EDIT: Holy crap big picture. here's the link http://www.nasa.gov/images/content/6169 ... 5B1%5D.jpg

[Glacier]

That one is from NASA

what do those organizations know though? They could be wrong.

EDIT: Holy crap big picture. here's the link http://www.nasa.gov/images/content/6169 ... 5B1%5D.jpg

Thanks for the resized image, though neither refutes anything on the list. The gold standard for temperature is RSS (satellite data) for obvious reasons. RSS shows no warming in 17 years, 9 months. The graphs you showed show no warming in 14 to 16 years.

The advantage of land based data is that it has data much longer than 40 years.

HADCET (central England) has the world's longest continuous temperature record in the world. Here are the graphs showing velocity (rate of change in temperature), acceleration (rate of change in velocity), and jerk (rate of change in acceleration).

To answer Jennylives' question about acceleration, yes we've been accelerating for 62 years, but the rate at which we've been accelerating has actually been going down for 300 years.

[maryjane48]

Facts:
- We haven't warmed in the past 17 years, 9 months.
- Hurricanes are not getting stronger.
- Tornadoes aren't getting stronger.
- Floods aren't getting worse.
- Droughts aren't getting worse.
- Extreme temperatures aren't becoming more frequent.
- Global sea ice is above average.

If you dispute any of the following

we have a planet in our solar system that got hot because of a runaway greenhouse effect. we w3ere in a mini ice age not long ago
, so we are warming up or cooling off, nothing in nature is static. if you are trying to say earth is staying the same, its like saying there is no currents in the ocean , it just lays there.


now as far as weather, do you even believe if earth was warming up storms be worse? ect ect ? and lets just say earth was warming up all on its own, then what? no big deal or lets plan. i just don't understand why some people want to gamble with something that could affect humans in a short amount of time. if its money stopping you , or economics, thats not good enough , that stuff didn't exist when humans first happened on the scene , and some of them did live in extreme climate change , a mini ice age

[Omnitheo]

Storm frequency or intensity aren't the only changes to look for in storm behavior. Recently NOAA and MIT have been tracking changes in storm location, and have found a trend that shows storms migrating closer to the poles.

http://io9.com/hurricanes-are-migrating ... 1577034799

Now Florida, Louisiana and Cuba may be used to large hurricanes, but as we've seen with New York, northern areas aren't quite as prepared for them. If this is a continuing trend, these northern coastal areas could be in trouble.

[Glacier]

Storm frequency or intensity aren't the only changes to look for in storm behavior. Recently NOAA and MIT have been tracking changes in storm location, and have found a trend that shows storms migrating closer to the poles..

Cool. That's a good thing since the more northern areas are less populated. Also, more northern nations are wealthier, and thus better at dealing with disasters.

[BelieveNothing]

No end to the game. Absolute control, Absolute power is the game.

[GrooveTunes]

http://thetyee.ca/Opinion/2014/06/19/Axis-of-Weasels/?utm_source=daily&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=190614

[daria]

[StraitTalk]

Arguing no it's not happening vs yes it is happening is pointless. There is so much data available at this point that if you are inclined you can make an educated decision for yourself. There are a lot of very smart people out there making strong cases for both sides; the majority agree that Climate Change is a real problem that we have an effect over but that in itself does not prove anything.

I can imagine if you are a denier, this video is not something you want to see, and although I love John Oliver for what he does, I really felt this bit was adding to the problem. I find it very interesting how upset people get over the topic though. If you were writing a paper on the subject and had real evidence that you didn't google search that would be one thing, but telling other people they're wrong because of something you read on the internet makes you the ultimate hypocrite.

This isn't targeted at anyone, I just like to try and chime in now and then and remind everyone you, like everyone else, do not know the answer.