The New Drug

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To the extent that you are not harming anyone, you should be free to make your own decisions, smoking for example costs each of us money, repairing smokers and those damaged by others smoking, as well how many house fires and deaths are caused by smokers, how many interiors have to be cleaned and painted because of tenants smoking?
Heroin, speed, alcohol are not innocent as they cause costs the rest of us have to bear.
How does porn fit into this realm, people watch it, any harm is internal, or between the close associates of the watcher(s).
Show me a solid link between anti social behavior which costs we all have to bear, and I may change my opinion.
Just because there may be a problem we cannot predict is no reason to make laws against this, that would be a very slippery slope, where would you stop it. There are those who would like to make laws against voting for the other party because there may be harm.
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Or is this just a gaggle of nice, clean-cut Mormon boys with a new angle on becoming the next dot.com billionaires ? Just sayin...
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I clicked the link to get the "facts" yet they offered merely studies that barely correlate such behaviour to users of porn. I could possibly see an argument about studying it more, but beyond that, I don't think anyone has sufficient evidence to call to a harmful drug.
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FreeRights wrote:I clicked the link to get the "facts" yet they offered merely studies that barely correlate such behaviour to users of porn. I could possibly see an argument about studying it more, but beyond that, I don't think anyone has sufficient evidence to call to a harmful drug.


Marijuana is not generally harmful either, but it can definitely make your life crappy if you spend all your days using it. Pornography is the same. Some people use it recreationally, and it isn't causing measurable harm for them. But it has and is destroying lives. Sex addiction is a real thing, and pornography is a common (though not universal) factor in it.
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A drug is something buoy ingest that manipulates your body's chemistry.

Porn is something you so that for the most part, likely impacts you in a similar way that actual sex does. I'd like to see a study that compares sex vs porn masturbation effects on the brain.
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If you need to do some research and studies on this new drug, I might be available.
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Sorry Cap'n it says effects on the brain.
you don't qualify.
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*citation needed
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The point of the site in the OP is that pornography should be regarded the same way we regard street drugs...dangerous and potentially addictive (some moreso than others).

Being a practicing porn addict is somewhat different than simply having intercourse all the time. It does twist the psyche, as well as make the nervous system used to a specific type of stimulation, both visual and physical. While that won't kill you, it can definitely impair a person's social and relationship skills. Much like a drug addict needs more and more of their drug to achieve the desired high (and in some cases, no amount is enough), an addiction to sex or pornography works the same way. When simply viewing pornography doesn't do it anymore, the addict branches out.
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Jay, do you have any real evidence to back up what you are saying......... I suspect it is all your own opinion.
That's not to say it may be true, but where are the studies?
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Here is a video of Russel Brand giving his point on the topic. I think he is spot on.

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Anecdotes do not make a valid argument, for or against.
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I Think wrote:Jay, do you have any real evidence to back up what you are saying......... I suspect it is all your own opinion.
That's not to say it may be true, but where are the studies?


I'm speaking from my experience with addiction (and some experience with this particular form of it), not from studies I've read. I don't have an article I can cite to convince you, I just know what I've seen myself. If that's not enough, I totally understand.
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JayByrd wrote:Much like a drug addict needs more and more of their drug to achieve the desired high (and in some cases, no amount is enough), an addiction to sex or pornography works the same way. When simply viewing pornography doesn't do it anymore, the addict branches out.


I have to wonder if in the case of "branching out" whether or not viewing porn simply aggravated a pre-existing condition ? There are people who can drink their whole lives without becoming an alcoholic, as there are those predisposed to alcohlism who find there way into addiction status on very short notice. Off the top of my head I can see the risk in porn being objectification of women which could very well desensitize men to the tenderness and emotion that go with the romantic side of the act, but I really wonder if the term "addiction" is warranted in any but extreme cases.

And I wasn't exactly joking when I spoke of this maybe being just an angle to cash in on.
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