Poorly educated or just lazy?
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Poorly educated or just lazy?
So first off, I was NOT a great student. Grammar, spelling and punctuation are not my strengths.
But when I see "professionals" with the grammar of grade schoolers it concerns me.
Todays example..."New father and West Kelowna resident Ben Pallett risked it all to follow his personal and professional dream to pursue a better life for him and his family.
Am I wrong, should this not be " HE and his family"?
But when I see "professionals" with the grammar of grade schoolers it concerns me.
Todays example..."New father and West Kelowna resident Ben Pallett risked it all to follow his personal and professional dream to pursue a better life for him and his family.
Am I wrong, should this not be " HE and his family"?
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Re: Poorly educated or just lazy?
He and his family--if in the subject position. i.e. He and his family attended the wedding.
Him and his family--if in the object position. i.e. The food was saved for him and his family.
Him and his family--if in the object position. i.e. The food was saved for him and his family.
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Re: Poorly educated or just lazy?
Just read a newspaper if you want mistakes. I know I make many also but at least I am not a so called professional with a proof reader. I think a good majority of it is lazy. I also believe all the use of social media is making it worse.
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Re: Poorly educated or just lazy?
oneh2obabe wrote:He and his family--if in the subject position. i.e. He and his family attended the wedding.
Him and his family--if in the object position. i.e. The food was saved for him and his family.
Thanks!
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"He and his family" does not scan well even tho it may be more correct.
Personally I would say it another way
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Personally I would say it another way
One of my pet peeves is referring to boats as crafts.
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Re: Poorly educated or just lazy?
great post *removed* who cares.boats crafts ships dingy.
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Re: Poorly educated or just lazy?
I teach first year university courses. Every year I hold a funeral for the English language.
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Re: Poorly educated or just lazy?
psychprof wrote:I teach first year university courses. Every year I hold a funeral for the English language.
True dat.
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thas goot
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Grammar snobs are hilarious. They're the same type of people that couldn't change the oil in their car, or a flat tire on the side of the road.
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Re: Poorly educated or just lazy?
Gixxer wrote:Grammar snobs are hilarious. They're the same type of people that couldn't change the oil in their car, or a flat tire on the side of the road.
I beg your pardon! I can tell a Roberston from a Phillips, I can jump a car and use a drill, do most of my own repairs (including drywalling). Just because I was raised to appreciate the elegance of the English language does not mean I am incapable of doing practical tasks.
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Hey Gixxer, I kind of disregard P Poor writing, using there for their or then for than etc.
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You probably say ashfalt instead of as phalt.
If you look in other threads you can see pics of the electric tractor I built and use daily. Have swapped engines that weighed a thousand kilos or more. can bang in nails, design and build a yacht and sail it under the Golden Gate Bridge, from Vancouver.
Cannot stand L Ron Hubbards sf books because he is a *bleep* writer grammatically speaking.
You probably say ashfalt instead of as phalt.
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psychprof wrote:I teach first year university courses. Every year I hold a funeral for the English language.
Whatever you do, do not wade into the complicated World of the comment section of CNN's facebook site.
Leave that for the professional mourners.
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Re: Poorly educated or just lazy?
I was always taught that each must be able to stand alone.
"to pursue a better life for him(self)" - yes
"to pursue a better life for his family" - yes
"to pursue a better life for he" - nooooooo
I believe it was written correctly.
"to pursue a better life for him(self)" - yes
"to pursue a better life for his family" - yes
"to pursue a better life for he" - nooooooo
I believe it was written correctly.
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Re: Poorly educated or just lazy?
Lady tehMa wrote:I beg your pardon! I can tell a Roberston from a Phillips, I can jump a car and use a drill, do most of my own repairs (including drywalling). Just because I was raised to appreciate the elegance of the English language does not mean I am incapable of doing practical tasks.
Well are you a grammar snob? That's nice you can do practical tasks. The point I was making is that people that are great in grammar, might lack skills in other areas.
If the engine in your car blew up today would you be able to repair it yourself? If not is the mechanic that could repair it poorly educated, or just lazy?