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Re: Elk hunted on private land-what ever happened ?

Postby blueliner » Mar 5th, 2017, 7:19 pm

w84u2 wrote:Fish & Wildlife charges may never become public knowledge.

Only if the PIB wants to keep it quiet . But think there's way to much on the line to keep this one under the table :chicken:
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Re: Elk hunted on private land-what ever happened ?

Postby w84u2 » Mar 5th, 2017, 8:41 pm

w84u2 wrote:Fish & Wildlife charges may never become public knowledge.

blueliner wrote:Only if the PIB wants to keep it quiet . But think there's way to much on the line to keep this one under the table :chicken:

Even IF PIB wasn't involved. F&W charges are not necessarily charges under the CCC. Therefore, they will not be published for public viewing.
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Re: Elk hunted on private land-what ever happened ?

Postby blueliner » Mar 6th, 2017, 4:00 pm

w84u2 wrote:
w84u2 wrote:Fish & Wildlife charges may never become public knowledge.

blueliner wrote:Only if the PIB wants to keep it quiet . But think there's way to much on the line to keep this one under the table :chicken:

Even IF PIB wasn't involved. F&W charges are not necessarily charges under the CCC. Therefore, they will not be published for public viewing.

I think in this high profile case the charges will be made public . Sure hope the Crown goes forward with criminal charges just like the would if it was not FN's :cuss:
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Re: Elk hunted on private land-what ever happened ?

Postby Fancy » Mar 6th, 2017, 4:10 pm

This isn't a high profile case. Trespass charges aren't exciting news.
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Re: Elk hunted on private land-what ever happened ?

Postby blueliner » Mar 6th, 2017, 5:41 pm

Fancy wrote:This isn't a high profile case. Trespass charges aren't exciting news.

They would be if it was your land they trespass on !! :200:
Or if this happened on PIB land sure the wheels of justice would be turning just a bit faster :135:
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Re: Elk hunted on private land-what ever happened ?

Postby Dawnland » Mar 6th, 2017, 7:17 pm

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Or if this happened on PIB land sure the wheels of justice would be turning just a bit faster :135:

This is pure speculation and an inflammatory statement. Your click bait worked, I bit and I call bulls#!t. Trespassing charges are met with an eviction letter and escort off the Reserve. The worst that happens is a fine and certainly no criminal charges. Don't you worry though, come summer when you see all the transient campers along the channel, you'll be able to point the finger of privilege again.
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Re: Elk hunted on private land-what ever happened ?

Postby blueliner » Mar 6th, 2017, 7:47 pm

Dawnland wrote:
blueliner wrote:
Or if this happened on PIB land sure the wheels of justice would be turning just a bit faster :135:

This is pure speculation and an inflammatory statement. Your click bait worked, I bit and I call bulls#!t. Trespassing charges are met with an eviction letter and escort off the Reserve. The worst that happens is a fine and certainly no criminal charges. Don't you worry though, come summer when you see all the transient campers along the channel, you'll be able to point the finger of privilege again.

Well Dawnland if the so called transient campers along the river channel , all it takes is one call to your Grand Chief and sure he will get the wheels of the Whity's justice moving real quick . I will call your bullsh#t . :cuss:
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Re: Elk hunted on private land-what ever happened ?

Postby Fancy » Mar 6th, 2017, 7:56 pm

You do realize the difference here. How can you compare a trespass charge with an eviction letter and an escort off the reserve? The trespasser in question has already left the building.
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Re: Elk hunted on private land-what ever happened ?

Postby Dawnland » Mar 6th, 2017, 8:10 pm

When the Band receives notice of illegal occupation, a Band representative provides the RCMP with a 24 hour notice to evict. The RCMP will then follow up to ensure the transient has moved on. If the squatter has moved on, the Band has to hire cleaners to come in and restore the area. If the squatter is still there, the RCMP escort them off the Reserve. If you think I'm bulls#!tting, call Cost Mike Rampone, First Nations RCMP officer. But yeah, that's obviously something I don't know anything about...riiiight.
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Re: Elk hunted on private land-what ever happened ?

Postby Fancy » Mar 6th, 2017, 8:19 pm

Why are you bringing up squatters? Zero to do with the topic.
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Re: Elk hunted on private land-what ever happened ?

Postby Fancy » Mar 6th, 2017, 8:20 pm

Focus people please....
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Re: Elk hunted on private land-what ever happened ?

Postby Dawnland » Mar 6th, 2017, 8:46 pm

Fancy, if a squatter parked their tent in your yard, the squatter would only be charged with trespassing, probably immediately right? Well, according to blueliner if trespassing happened on Reserve lands, the courts would bend over backwards to prosecute quickly. I countered that with my knowledge that a trespassers would have to be committing the offence for over 24 hours for anything to happen judiciously at all.
It's the same topic, trespassing. Neither of which, as w84u2 pointed out, are prosecuted under the Criminal Code.
Maximum fine of $500, no criminal record, and it can't be searched through Freedom of information and privacy act. Not very exciting, or newsworthy.
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Re: Elk hunted on private land-what ever happened ?

Postby Fancy » Mar 6th, 2017, 8:52 pm

The people weren't squatters. This will boil down to a trespass case which is what the lady in question wants to happen. It probably will never make the news again and if it does it won't make a difference to anyone. If you are going to discuss something, at least get the facts right.
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Re: Elk hunted on private land-what ever happened ?

Postby Dawnland » Mar 6th, 2017, 8:55 pm

Just a bit of information if you'll allow the indulgence.
Trespassing is a BC Act, therefore not applicable on Reserve as it's federal land. The Bands have to enact their own by-laws to cover some of those things that are generally included in provincial and civic by-laws. If you would like to know what the laws and by-laws in place on every Reserve in Canada, you can search them on-line through; First Nations gazette website. But yes fancy, I don't know everything, I'll happily leave that to you, as pleasant as ever.
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Re: Elk hunted on private land-what ever happened ?

Postby Fancy » Mar 6th, 2017, 8:57 pm

Dawnland wrote:Just a bit of information if you'll allow the indulgence.
Trespassing is a BC Act, therefore not applicable on Reserve as it's federal land. The Bands have to enact their own by-laws to cover some of those things that are generally included in provincial and civic by-laws. If you would like to know what the laws and by-laws in place on every Reserve in Canada, you can search them on-line through; First Nations gazette website.

You are obviously stating the elk were taken not on private lands then.
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