The cure for mental illness

[Fancy]

It's true some people have mental illness.
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Imagine if there was some type of costly more natural therapy, maybe invented in Germany or some Buddhist country
that could "help" people with depression. Maybe it involved soaking in hot springs or something like that,
and healthy organic food.

Finally some truth - yes some people suffer from a mental illness.
Medications for these illnesses can be quite expensive - yes, very costly.
Some people already eat healthy yet still suffer from a mental illness. Some people have tried other means before seeking help from their physicians. For some, medication truly helps.

[Thinktank]

And the drug companies know their drugs cause side effects - resulting in more business
for them selling other drugs to cover up those side effects temporarily.

It's like the common cold. Get plenty of rest and you'll be cured in a while or you can drug the hell
out of yourself and get plenty of rest and you'll be cured in a while.

My friend comes from a poor country in central America. He got sick, but because he's poor
he couldn't afford to stay home and rest. He has to go to work to pay for rent, so he asked
his doctor to give him something that would allow him to go to work. Now he's 75 lbs overweight
when a few years ago he was only 40 lbs overweight.

Aren't side effects great?

Or my neighbor - was showing very slight mental problems. I talked to him and noticed a slight problem.
He was hauled into a nursing home
where he was drugged into oblivion. Now he's a 100% zombie.

Aren't psychiatric drugs great?


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[Fancy]

Not sure what you're rambling on about. We're not talking about simple colds or dementia.

[Thinktank]

It's true some people have mental illness.

But a lot more don't have serious mental illness - they just want drugs from their doctor.

23% of women in their 40s and 50s take antidepressants, a higher percentage than any other group (by age or sex)
Women are 2½ times more likely to be taking an antidepressant than men

There's probably a reason for that.


..... to be continued

[Fancy]

Maybe clarification of depression (one aspect of mental illness) will help:

What is Clinical Depression?
When we refer to depression in the following pages, we are talking about "clinical depression." Clinical depression is a serious medical illness that negatively affects how you feel, the way you think and how you act. Individuals with clinical depression are unable to function as they used to. Often they have lost interest in activities that were once enjoyable to them, and feel sad and hopeless for extended periods of time. Clinical depression is not the same as feeling sad or depressed for a few days and then feeling better. It can affect your body, mood, thoughts, and behavior. It can change your eating habits, how you feel and think, your ability to work and study, and how you interact with people. People who suffer from clinical depression often report that they "don't feel like themselves anymore."

Clinical depression is not a sign of personal weakness, or a condition that can be willed away. Clinically depressed people cannot "pull themselves together" and get better. In fact, clinical depression often interferes with a person's ability or wish to get help. Clinical depression is a serious illness that lasts for weeks, months and sometimes years. It may even influence someone to contemplate or attempt suicide.

https://uhs.berkeley.edu/health-topics/ ... depression

[Fancy]

Interesting possible new hope for those suffering with this illness:

Antidepressants typically take weeks to have an effect. But Krystal and Charney found patients reported feeling a little better the same day they were given ketamine. By the next morning, they no longer had clinically significant depression symptoms, Krystal said. They had essentially gone into remission.

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/life/hea ... e34050469/

[Gixxer]

Interesting possible new hope for those suffering with this illness:

Antidepressants typically take weeks to have an effect. But Krystal and Charney found patients reported feeling a little better the same day they were given ketamine. By the next morning, they no longer had clinically significant depression symptoms, Krystal said. They had essentially gone into remission.

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/life/hea ... e34050469/

Ketamine also know as Special K in the party scene.

Plant medicines suchs as Ayahuasca, and Iboga are getting great results for curing depression.

[Fancy]

That's mentioned in the article.

[Thinktank]

23% of women in their 40s and 50s take antidepressants,- 2½ times more likely to be taking an antidepressant than men

One reason is this - Nine out of 10 pharmaceutical companies spend less on research and development than marketing.Steady doses of antidepressant advertising aimed at women advance the question from "Should I take an antidepressant?" to "Which one should I take?"

Women believe advertising. They think it's real and must be true.

Another reason could be that women tend to think a doctor is God. In the bible, Jesus healed people and
just by touching his garment other people were healed. Well now, the doctor is God, according to 24% of women.

But there could be more reasons.

Discuss

[W105]

I think menopause plays a fairly large role...for some women it's just brutal, but trust me, no anti depressant is going to help..if anything it can make it way worse

[Fancy]

Women believe advertising.

Must have been a man that wrote this. Women aren't gullible. If you want to talk about God - take it to the religion thread.

[Fancy]

Depression is a mental illness that affects a person’s mood—the way a person feels. Mood impacts the way people think about themselves, relate to others, and interact with the world around them. This is more than a ‘bad day’ or ‘feeling blue.’ Without supports like treatment, depression can last for a long time.

Signs of depression include feeling sad, worthless, hopeless, guilty, or anxious a lot of the time. Some feel irritable or angry. People lose interest in things they used to enjoy and may withdraw from others. Depression can make it hard to focus on tasks and remember information. It can be hard to concentrate, learn new things, or make decisions. Depression can change the way people eat and sleep, and many people experience physical health problems.

Age and sex can also impact how people experience depression. Males often experience anger or irritability rather than sadness, which can make depression harder for others to see. Young people and older adults may experience lasting changes in mood that are mistakenly dismissed as a normal part of growing up or of aging.

http://www.cmha.ca/mental_health/facts- ... LBzS28rKcM
Once treatment has improved one's health, it's been said they never want to feel that way again. There are steps that may help some from seeking treatment again, but not all. We've certainly seen in the news what happens when some have discontinued treatment.

[Fancy]

I think menopause plays a fairly large role...for some women it's just brutal, but trust me, no anti depressant is going to help..if anything it can make it way worse

This article may help explain it to some:
https://www.menopause.org/for-women/men ... -menopause

Menopausal symptoms may be alleviated with help though it seems the hormonal changes are different from what mental illness is all about. If both are present, the symptoms could be unbearable without treatment.

[Silverstarqueen]

Is it really menopausal women who are the biggest customers? Personally I found my life much more relaxing by the time I got that far. More physical symptoms, yes, but not mental / emotional.
I think there are more women suffering from postpartum, lack of sleep from holding down job, homecare, childcare. Plus there are physical problems which doctors often brush off, or will only prescribe an anti-depressant instead of treating the real problems such as thyroid disfunction, lack of sleep, sleep apnea, anemia, auto-immune conditions,chronic pain, exhaustion. So if an anti-depressant is all that's offered, a woman takes what she can get.

[Thinktank]

Antidepressants cause insomnia

More alarming, a study published this year in the British Medical Journal linked sleeping pills with a greater than threefold increased risk of death over an average 2.5 years of followup — even among patients prescribed as few as four to 18 pills a year. The "hazards of hypnotics" were seen in every age group, the researchers reported, adding that the "meagre benefits" of the drugs don't justify the "substantial risks."
tranquillizers and sleeping pills can impair motor and cognitive skills required for actions such as driving, they said. The drugs have been linked with an increase in car crashes and falls due to "hangover" effects. The drugs also can increase breathing problems during sleep. Some studies suggest they increase the risk of depression and suicide.
The number of prescriptions for sleep aids has exploded in Canada in recent years — something which many experts say is setting up too many people for severe addictions and other side-effects.

http://www.canada.com/health/sleep+Cana ... story.html