Dressing like THOTs in Schools put boys education at risk

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JLives wrote:
Very wrong. Why are we blaming girls for boys not paying attention? Why aren't we valuing girls more? I'm a parent of both a boy and girl and I'm tired of this. I think uniforms are a good idea too as KG mentioned above but in the meantime stop sexualizing young girls and blaming them for boy's lack of self control.


Bring on the uniforms...could be as simple as non ripped clean jeans and a t shirt (PLAIN).

Short sleeve in summer, long sleeve in winter.

I'm gonna get dog piled for this but here goes...

Girls dressing like floozies at school with their 'parts', north, south, east and west, pouring out is unacceptable!

Boys, dressing like music video rappers, with their pants hanging so low you get to see their entire boxers is unacceptable!

Where are they getting this from?

Advertising and social media objectification of BOTH boys and girls AND parents allowing it to happen to their children.

It's just plain rude!

Boys need to be taught to control themselves and be respectful of girls/women.

Girls need to obtain the wherewithal and self esteem to know they are powerful just by being themselves.

They need to learn not to objectify themselves in the images of twerking, nearly naked music stars and gain strength

from within.

Boys need to man up not gangster up.

Respect and self control comes from home...schools should be there to strengthen that.

Driving past some of the schools during break time sometimes looks like a young human ''meat market" that

used to be seen only on Friday and Saturday nights at the local clubs adult clubs and bars.

Dress your children to learn and get an education.

Teach them to respect themselves and their bodies AND to respect others!
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Barney Google wrote:Girls dressing like floozies at school with their 'parts', north, south, east and west, pouring out is unacceptable!

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I would just like to link to this photo from the article. The girls faces are blocked out, but you can still see their outfits for the main part.

One girl is wearing a dress, with a jean vest. The dress seems to be of a decent length, and with the vest her straps are wide. The other girl is wearing jean shorts which don't appear to have any "part" showing. She is wearing a three-quarter length sleeve shirt, it does appear to be an off the shoulder top (as those are pretty fashionable right now). So her shoulder's are showing, which I guess we could describe as pouring out but come on, they are shoulders.

To me, they are dressed relatively decent for school. There are no "pouring out" of unacceptable body parts, unless we are going to count shoulders and knees.
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Barney I'm in total agreement.
Why are the girls trying to look like gangsta decorations?
In no way does it take away from their "smarts" like someone tried to imply.

In much the same way tattoos doesn't make an LPN or DR or RN less "smart."
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All schools have dress codes. If the code is too lax, or not being enforced, the issue is with school administration.

Shaming/pressuring students to change their ways will work just as well with this generation as it has with any other. As in, it won't.

Today's crop of young people have access to, and are influenced by, media in ways that not even their 40-something parents were. The line between adolescent/teen/adult behaviour has become completely blurred. Fire up YouTube and take a look at some current popular music videos. They're practically softcore porn films. This influences the way people dress and conduct themselves.

That said, I work next door to both a middle school and a high school, and while I do occasionally see someone that makes me wonder how they got out of the house dressed like that, most young women are dressed pretty decently.
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To me, they are dressed relatively decent for school. There are no "pouring out" of unacceptable body parts, unless we are going to count shoulders and knees.


I didn't say nor do I mean ALL girls, or boys for that matter, Whatwhat.

Do you have kids in Middle School or High School?

I don't (not anymore) but I work and have worked with kids in this age group.

There are SOME...not ALL...kids that fall into the description what I have posted.
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What can be frustrating, also, is that every 'body' is different. One scoop-neck T-shirt on a tall girl with small breasts will look modest, while on a shorter girl with large breasts, the scoop-neck would display enough cleavage to render it 'a distraction'. This is why I believe a uniform dress code needs to be implemented for schools.

Polo shirts of whatever colour
Mid-Rise jeans in winter and/or mid-rise Bermuda shorts in summer.

Both of those items are readily available and do not need to send the average family into the poor house.
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I also think it's not up to the School Staff to have to constantly 'police' the students for things like proper attire.

Even at the local private schools where uniforms are to be worn kids are always pushing the limits.

To me this comes from home.

For sure, freedom of expression should be encouraged but respectful 'editing' should be taught as well.

Its like how some kids(and adults) feel they are 'allowed' to say whatever pops into their heads completely

unfiltered because it is their 'right' regardless of how it impacts others and feel even more so if it's the 'truth' or

their opinion they are even more entitled to express it.

Personal "rights" and respect of others sometimes get mixed up a little too much.
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There's this assumption that because a male is "distracted", he's acting out in such a way and disrespecting the opposite sex which is wrong most of the time.
In actuality all males of that age are "distracted" regardless of their status in school or upbringing.
I think they all should follow some basic dress code, word the letter however you wish.

What seems like common sense far too often requires a letter to spell it out, what the hell the parents doing ?
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As long as the dress code is the same for males and females, fair enough. So if it's going to be must have shoulders covered to x inches below the armpit, must wear bra, pants to the knee or ankle, belt at belly button not hipster,shirts must cover up to the collar bone, whatever rules you want to cook up, should be same for both. I personally don't know why there need to be restrictions on dress, but it seems that the males just can't function, or need some other excuse why they don't manage to do their school work. Poor things, how are they going to manage when they get into the real world and women are dressed to the nines with OMG heels and cleavage and form fitting outfits or miniskirts, looking like real women?
Common sense to me as a parent is that the schools should be focussing on the teaching and learning of their educational material and not on the fashion sense of their teens. It should be a matter between parents and their children, and should have nothing to do with the schools.
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If there is no dress codes then it's anything goes in an anything goes society. And that's where the problems are coming up.
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It's a parental issue so it's not "anything goes", it should be whatever goes with the parent. Someone else's parent doesn't get to dictate what my children should be wearing. Fundamentalists might want their daughter in long sleev dresses and a turtle neck, others might feel shorts are okay. The schools have no ability to use common sense. When I was in school they dictated girls could not wear pants, even in winter. so the girls just had to freeze and the boys got to wear pants. Go figure. Surely parents can figure out what their kids can or should wear.
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Silverstarqueen wrote:...Surely parents can figure out what their kids can or should wear.


Evidently not cause problems are coming up and it's a concern every where.

http://edmontonjournal.com/news/local-n ... dress-code

http://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-new ... ress-code/

http://www.ctvnews.ca/canada/dress-code ... -1.1848430

http://www.csmonitor.com/The-Culture/Fa ... ppearances

...there is also another dynamic that even ol' Barney Goggle has experienced.

Kid leaves the care of the parental unit wearing acceptable clothing.

Gets to school, hits the restroom and changes into a different unapproved 'outfit'.

Prior to heading home...switches back to Parent approved clothing.

How many of us have done something similar? :up:
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IF child is changing clothes at school, and parent cares about it, that is a really good place to start parenting. Incidentally I never did that. But it isn't an "educational" issue.
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Barney Google wrote:I didn't say nor do I mean ALL girls, or boys for that matter, Whatwhat.

Do you have kids in Middle School or High School?

I don't (not anymore) but I work and have worked with kids in this age group.

There are SOME...not ALL...kids that fall into the description what I have posted.


Of course not all teenagers dress like "gangsters" or like "floozies", and to be honest I would say those types of teenagers are in the minority.

No, I don't have kids in middle/high school as I am probably closer to their age then the majority of people posting on here :) But my niece is in middle school, and I also have close relationships with teenagers thanks to work.

And while I think we can all agree that a few teenagers might dress inappropriately for school, I think it is pretty disgusting to use that reasoning for grown, adult men to label them "floozies" or "that ho over there".
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Barney Google wrote:Boys, dressing like music video rappers, with their pants hanging so low you get to see their entire boxers is unacceptable!


Why exactly is this unacceptable? No skin is showing.

How come no one has mentioned male teachers who show up for school in skin-tight biking shorts and stay in the shorts for long periods of time? The shorts are so tight that nearly everything can be seen, yet no one ever complains about teachers setting a bad example for the students.

There are also those male teachers who for some weird reason wear button shirts with all the buttons undone so like half or more of their chest is showing. When female students do this it's bad, but again, no one ever mentions teachers setting a bad example.
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