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Fishy poll results.

Postby dale mck » Aug 18th, 2017, 9:04 am

Few days ago the poll in the "opinion" section asked If you trusted the U.S. president. I clicked on my preference ,,at that time the results showed that approx 70% said no, and approx. 28% said yes . Ok ,,,now about 2.5 hours later I checked back to see if it had changed much. Wow,,,had it ever,,,it had done a huge switch that pretty well was a complete reverse from just over 2 hours earlier . The other thing I noticed was the extreme jump in the vote count. The next day the results were showing another reversal back to the no side, but with a huge increase in the vote count. The final count was
Total Votes: 317,785,,,,the average count for a Castanet poll more like 1,500-14,000. What gives here ? Looks very fishy to me. Did this poll get hacked ?
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Re: Fishy poll results.

Postby Bsuds » Aug 18th, 2017, 9:13 am

You can vote more than once so don't believe any of the polls as accurate on this site.
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Re: Fishy poll results.

Postby dale mck » Aug 18th, 2017, 9:21 am

Well,,it doesn't let me vote again after i Voted. You can't just sit there and repeatedly vote.
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Re: Fishy poll results.

Postby HorganIsMyHero » Aug 18th, 2017, 11:19 am

dale mck wrote:Well,,it doesn't let me vote again after i Voted. You can't just sit there and repeatedly vote.


You can if you know what to do. It's extremely easy to mess with online polls.
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Re: Fishy poll results.

Postby dale mck » Aug 18th, 2017, 11:26 am

HorganIsMyHero wrote:
dale mck wrote:Well,,it doesn't let me vote again after i Voted. You can't just sit there and repeatedly vote.


You can if you know what to do. It's extremely easy to mess with online polls.


Then in that case,,,it pretty well supports my suspicion. Makes no sense to pay any attention to these polls at all !
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Re: Fishy poll results.

Postby whatwhat » Aug 18th, 2017, 11:51 am

HorganIsMyHero wrote:
dale mck wrote:Well,,it doesn't let me vote again after i Voted. You can't just sit there and repeatedly vote.


You can if you know what to do. It's extremely easy to mess with online polls.


As well, if you had read the comments apparently the voter numbers jumped 20,000 votes in 20 minutes or so. As well, people were saying there were more votes than people who had visited the page.

My guess would be bots, but who knows.
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Re: Fishy poll results.

Postby neilsimon » Aug 18th, 2017, 11:56 am

Yes, bots.
I wrote one using ApacheBench https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ApacheBench to see how hard it would be. I estimate that I could push about 1,000,000 votes in an hour from a single slow-connection server. It's really simple to do and really obvious too.
Worst thing is that it's trivial to fight this kind of thing

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Re: Fishy poll results.

Postby Bsuds » Aug 18th, 2017, 1:07 pm

It'a not like Castanet polls are important or life changing. They are just fluff and sometimes interesting to see how the masses think.
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Re: Fishy poll results.

Postby neilsimon » Aug 18th, 2017, 1:30 pm

Bsuds wrote:It'a not like Castanet polls are important or life changing. They are just fluff and sometimes interesting to see how the masses think.

True, but the problem is that if someone is manipulating them, and others believe them, it is creating a "truth" in people's minds and one which then impacts their own beliefs. If you repeat something often enough, people just accept it as true, and are very hard to convince otherwise afterwards.

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Re: Fishy poll results.

Postby gman313 » Aug 18th, 2017, 1:33 pm

dale mck wrote:Well,,it doesn't let me vote again after i Voted. You can't just sit there and repeatedly vote.


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Re: Fishy poll results.

Postby Loki2u » Aug 18th, 2017, 1:36 pm

neilsimon wrote:
Bsuds wrote:It'a not like Castanet polls are important or life changing. They are just fluff and sometimes interesting to see how the masses think.

True, but the problem is that if someone is manipulating them, and others believe them, it is creating a "truth" in people's minds and one which then impacts their own beliefs. If you repeat something often enough, people just accept it as true, and are very hard to convince otherwise afterwards.


Then you get what you deserve in my opinion. People that understand how these polls work (or don't work) aren't usually the ones that need convincing of anything.

I see this sort of thing on social media often. If people took more time to form their own informed opinions they wouldn't be so easily led astray. The word 'sheeple' usually comes up often in these situations.
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Re: Fishy poll results.

Postby neilsimon » Aug 18th, 2017, 1:50 pm

Loki2u wrote:...
Then you get what you deserve in my opinion. People that understand how these polls work (or don't work) aren't usually the ones that need convincing of anything.

I see this sort of thing on social media often. If people took more time to form their own informed opinions they wouldn't be so easily led astray. The word 'sheeple' usually comes up often in these situations.

Maybe so. I have seen people post up fake information (fake reports, posters, etc.) and have quite intelligent people actually believe them. I think we have all been deliberately mislead at some point, and sometimes repeatedly.

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Re: Fishy poll results.

Postby Bsuds » Aug 18th, 2017, 1:51 pm

dale mck wrote:Well,,it doesn't let me vote again after i Voted. You can't just sit there and repeatedly vote.
gman313 wrote:
delete your cookies


Better still don't allow them in the first place.
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Re: Fishy poll results.

Postby Barney Google » Aug 21st, 2017, 6:28 am

Fake poll
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Re: Fishy poll results.

Postby I see what you did » Aug 21st, 2017, 9:49 pm

poll was real - cnet got a taste of a first class "the_don" brigading

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