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Re: #MeToo

Postby zoo » Sep 9th, 2019, 7:47 am

Silverstarqueen wrote:Would you please fix my quote so that you are not putting words into it which are not mine.
I understand (as well as a layperson can) that some cases were/will be settled civil process, and did not go to court. It is a different process, it is still a legal process.


Think it is pretty clear when the bold print is followed by a response in Italic text.
However, With the immediate response and no agreement or discussion regarding the 300 million dollars paid out to claims made to individuals without investigations, charges, notifying the poor individuals of themselves being accused of such horrible accusations, no guilty verdicts, no court, it seems people are OK with supporting such horrible claims without any challenge to them.
I for one believe it is very wrong to have gone this way. That women can just make a claim, include names, with out notification and investigation, deem them as acceptable with no proof, take the money and not want to serve justice.
Take your new found money, invest in a lawyer and fight for justice for your case. But maybe just the money is OK. SICK
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Re: #MeToo

Postby Silverstarqueen » Sep 9th, 2019, 9:09 am

It doesn't work like that.Incidentally when someone is accused of sexual assault they might not be notified that they are under investigation, or that there is an allegation, until they are charged. This is not unusual.The RCMP is making these compensations for a reason, it is the way they have chosen, and it is their choice, rather than drag their members and the victims thru the mud for months and years. Paying compensation is also a common way of settling injury claims of all sorts. Anyone who feels strongly as you do can certainly take their objections to the RCMP.
I am sure there are many victims who also are not happy with being denied their day in court.
My guess, and my hope, is that the RCMP will deal with complaints more effectively in the future, and the perpetrators more quickly, so that sexual harassement and assault are weeded out, although perhaps too much to expect that it will never happen again. At the very least the perpetrators will think twice before engaging in that type of behavior.
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Re: #MeToo

Postby Silverstarqueen » Sep 9th, 2019, 1:09 pm

Certain members of the RCMP definitely have to clean up their act. Tighter internal discipline would be a good place to start.

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Re: #MeToo

Postby liisgo » Sep 10th, 2019, 8:41 am

Silverstarqueen wrote:It doesn't work like that.Incidentally when someone is accused of sexual assault they might not be notified that they are under investigation, or that there is an allegation, until they are charged. This is not unusual.The RCMP is making these compensations for a reason, it is the way they have chosen, and it is their choice, rather than drag their members and the victims thru the mud for months and years. Paying compensation is also a common way of settling injury claims of all sorts. Anyone who feels strongly as you do can certainly take their objections to the RCMP.
I am sure there are many victims who also are not happy with being denied their day in court.
My guess, and my hope, is that the RCMP will deal with complaints more effectively in the future, and the perpetrators more quickly, so that sexual harassement and assault are weeded out, although perhaps too much to expect that it will never happen again. At the very least the perpetrators will think twice before engaging in that type of behavior.


What :does not work like that? Actually this issue is exactly the way it has been posted here. It can be searched easily. Is it right? You may believe its ok. Would think most people would not believe it is ok to shell out 400 million to claims without due process and proof. Thousands of names used within those complaints of hard working, amazing men that have no idea they are included in someones claim. This is not about fixing the issue at hand, its about a compensation method used with out due process. Using people's names with out just proof or acknowledgement of crime.
Sure it might increase the rate at which sexual harassment are weeded out, but derived by this method of thousands of unproven claims, 400 million dollars. Basically profiling is ok if it helps bring more effectiveness to the handling of issue's.
Commissioner Paulson stated as follows:
"The claimants will be able to submit their claims confidentially

The RCMP has indicated that it will set up a process that will allow claims to be submitted and considered in confidence. Among other things, this appears to us that claimants will not be subjected to cross examination by counsel, highly intrusive questioning, or required to participate in a public hearing. While we assume that there will be some method of verifying aspects of the claims – such as when and where the individual worked or if they had to take time off work as a result of the problematic behaviour they encountered at work – we would imagine that once these issues are verified, the claims will be taken as true unless there are very obvious problems with the claimant’s credibility or reliability.

The ability to use this process confidentiality is particularly critical for those individuals who are still employed by the RCMP who may fear reprisals for taking part."
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Re: #MeToo

Postby averagejoe » Oct 2nd, 2019, 8:04 am

Wow! Just wow! Where is the woman's movement...... :135:

Hillary Clinton Slammed by Juanita Broaddrick for Saying Women Groped by Joe Biden Need to ‘Get Over It’


Failed Democratic candidate from 2016 wants to overlook a serious problem — says everyone's focus should be kicking Donald Trump out of the White House


he Political Insider recently asked Juanita Broaddrick what she thought about Hillary Clinton’s recent comments suggesting women who are upset with being groped by Joe Biden need to “get over it” — and she had the perfect response.

Related: Hillary Clinton Will Run Again in 2020, Says Steve Bannon

In an interview with People Magazine, Clinton — who recently boasted that her “gutsiest” life move ever was to stick it out with her womanizing husband — brushed off concerns that Biden is unable to contain his creepy behavior.

This past year, several women accused Biden, one of the frontrunners for the 2020 Democrat nomination, of inappropriately touching them and making them feel uncomfortable.

The torrent of accusers began with former Nevada Assemblywoman Lucy Flores — who alleged Biden inappropriately kissed her and smelled her hair.

https://thepoliticalinsider.com/juanita ... t-over-it/
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Re: #MeToo

Postby the truth » Oct 2nd, 2019, 8:22 am

well the clintons are all about sex assaults after all,
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Re: #MeToo

Postby Ka-El » Oct 2nd, 2019, 8:23 am

the truth wrote:well the clintons are all about sex assaults after all,

Much like Trump - except he brags about it
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Re: #MeToo

Postby averagejoe » Oct 2nd, 2019, 8:26 am

*removed*
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Re: #MeToo

Postby OKkayak » Oct 2nd, 2019, 11:56 am

Ka-El wrote:
the truth wrote:well the clintons are all about sex assaults after all,

Much like Trump - except he brags about it

Versus lying.
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Re: #MeToo

Postby ferri » Oct 2nd, 2019, 12:05 pm

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