What does Harvey Pervstein tell us about women?

[Thinktank]

More than 50 women have made allegations against Harvey Weinstein and the number continues to grow each day.

Women like money.? Someone once said 80% of women will do almost anything for enough money.
Is that true?


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https://www.theguardian.com/film/2017/o ... now-so-far

[JayByrd]

The allegations against Harvey Weinstein don't tell us anything about women. If true, and it's hard to believe now that they aren't, they only tell us things about him.

A better thread title would be "What does ThinkTank tell us about women?".

What point would you like to make, ThinkTank? We're listening.

[Thinktank]

What point would you like to make, ThinkTank? We're listening.

Start at :50

and then watch her great big smile at :57



She advanced her career by keeping her mouth shut about Pervstein, and fifty other women
also advanced their career by keeping their mouth shut about Pervstein.

So, what does this tell you about women? It tells me they will keep their mouth shut to advance their career.

Why didn't they expose the pervert earlier?



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[Silverstarqueen]

Several women have said the same thing, they knew that as soon as they reported it, their careers would be over.
Unless a workplace has a policy of not tolerating sexual harassment or abuse of underlings, then this is the choice all women have to make if there is a sexually aggressive male in a position of power. Example, woman in the following video, who had to choose to work and feed her kids, or not.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y1xPeO4rCKg

[maryjane48]

Several women have said the same thing, they knew that as soon as they reported it, their careers would be over.
Unless a workplace has a policy of not tolerating sexual harassment or abuse of underlings, then this is the choice all women have to make if there is a sexually aggressive male in a position of power.

Your 100 right. But i think. Think has a point to . Harv may be tip iceberg and numbers could be in the thousands of people who didnt say anything

[Thinktank]

...choose to work and feed her kids, or not.

But why does Gwyneth Paltrow have such a big smile at the :57 mark?

[Silverstarqueen]

Why not? she's an actress, they are supposed to always be smiling, that's their job. IF they sit around pouting or complaining they are considered "difficult to work with".

[JayByrd]

She advanced her career by keeping her mouth shut about Pervstein, and fifty other women
also advanced their career by keeping their mouth shut about Pervstein.

So, what does this tell you about women? It tells me they will keep their mouth shut to advance their career.

Why didn't they expose the pervert earlier?

There's a difference between doing something (or not doing something) for personal gain, and doing it (or not doing it) because you feel you have no choice.

It tells me that people won't always take on a person who has power over them. It doesn't tell me anything about women in general.

The common denominator among all these women is that they were vulnerable. Weinstein was a person of power and influence, who could have crushed their careers if they spoke out against him. You'll notice a common thread in cases of abuse and assault is that the perpetrator has a position of power over the victim. That's how one does these sorts of things and gets away with it. It doesn't only apply to celebrities or women either. You're trying to make this a story of women and their character, but it's really just about power.

Again, Harvey Weinstein tells us nothing about women. But you've told us exactly what you think about women and you've tried, and failed, to use these incidents as evidence to back your point.

[perspicacious]

Women don't report because if they do it is a "he said, she said" scenario as most of the times this is done in private with no proof other than ones word. Who would you believe, a woman starting her career out with no track record other than a woman looking to be famous or a man well versed in the industry with no bad rap and an untarnished reputation? Guaranteed that each woman figured she was the only one it happened to and didn't say anything for fear of retribution and backlash.

[Thinktank]

So I just watched a video on Youtube that says Hollywood is a cesspool. If that's true then
my comments about women are wrong. Because all of Hollywood (and the people who control it) is ... filthy.

but I'm not going to post the video. I'd rather keep my mouth shut to avoid more problems.

[Thinktank]

^ there's someone who liked Weinstein.

So Harvey got ex Israeli Mossad agents to scare the hell out of anyone who might say something
against him. Now I know it wasn't any of the women's fault.

Weinstein is one real ape.



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[liisgo]

OMG everyone, this women has her hands on the chest of another human being she isnt married too.
I thought this was wrong? He needs to speak out

[jimmy4321]

It kinda baffles me how many very big names have gone through the Weinstein experience, negotiated contracts, made hundreds of millions for the company, themselves making tens of millions for themselves, became massive household names yet didn't see that they had enough clout to take this criminal down? It wouldn't be a stretch for people to believe them considering their popularity and apparently everyone knew this guy was a sleeze.
Witherspoon, Jolie, Paltrow or Judd who ARE well known by all ages, have Oprah like status yet one of them couldn't come forward individually or together and save others - this pig wouldn't have stood a chance. *These are not the average women they have resources$ and the public, the average person couldn't pick Weinstein in a line up.
Instead, of all people McGowan is the ballsy one to make a lot of noise on this? She's not really that well known, good for her for being persistent.

[Thinktank]

Mossad isn't exactly someone you want to get angry with you.

I would keep my mouth shut too.

[Because_They_Lie]

So I just watched a video on Youtube that says Hollywood is a cesspool. If that's true then
my comments about women are wrong. Because all of Hollywood (and the people who control it) is ... filthy.

but I'm not going to post the video. I'd rather keep my mouth shut to avoid more problems.

lol ...so GOOD!