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There's no such thing as mental illness

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There's no such thing as mental illness

Postby Glacier » Nov 23rd, 2017, 8:59 pm

In summary:
- There's no science to it.
- There's no test whatsoever that can diagnose a mental illness.
- When you have an illness (AIDS, malaria, etc.), and you're given a cure, you get better. With so called mental illness, it has absolutely exploded since drugs have been developed.

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Re: There's no such thing as mental illness

Postby Queen K » Nov 23rd, 2017, 10:52 pm

O h I assure you, spend five minutes with the mentally ill and "no such thing" turns into "there but the grace of God Go I."
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Re: There's no such thing as mental illness

Postby Omnitheo » Nov 24th, 2017, 2:07 pm

A lot of mental illnesses do have drugs that can help. And like many illnesses, mental or physical, sometimes there are no drugs or cures.

There are a number of tests to diagnose a variety of mental illnesses, and there is plenty of science to it.

I am not in a place where I can view your video, but I can say the doctors I am working with today would see you as a laughingstock for those comments.

Honestly, your post appears incredibly ignorant and just plain incorrect. I’m kinda hoping it is a sarcastic response to the video you are posting.
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Re: There's no such thing as mental illness

Postby GordonH » Nov 24th, 2017, 2:19 pm

Omnitheo wrote:A lot of mental illnesses do have drugs that can help. And like many illnesses, mental or physical, sometimes there are no drugs or cures.

There are a number of tests to diagnose a variety of mental illnesses, and there is plenty of science to it.

I am not in a place where I can view your video, but I can say the doctors I am working with today would see you as a laughingstock for those comments.

Honestly, your post appears incredibly ignorant and just plain incorrect. I’m kinda hoping it is a sarcastic response to the video you are posting.


Finding the right ones/combination is by trial & error (Meds). Vast majority of the meds used are actually developed for something else, again trial & error (lets see if this works/helps).
So those with mental illness are essentially human guinea pigs, sad but true.
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Re: There's no such thing as mental illness

Postby Fancy » Nov 24th, 2017, 2:26 pm

Omnitheo wrote:Honestly, your post appears incredibly ignorant and just plain incorrect. I’m kinda hoping it is a sarcastic response to the video you are posting.

Glacier did start it off with "In summary:" which I assumed meant that was what the video was all about.
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Re: There's no such thing as mental illness

Postby Omnitheo » Nov 24th, 2017, 2:34 pm

GordonH wrote:
Omnitheo wrote:A lot of mental illnesses do have drugs that can help. And like many illnesses, mental or physical, sometimes there are no drugs or cures.

There are a number of tests to diagnose a variety of mental illnesses, and there is plenty of science to it.

I am not in a place where I can view your video, but I can say the doctors I am working with today would see you as a laughingstock for those comments.

Honestly, your post appears incredibly ignorant and just plain incorrect. I’m kinda hoping it is a sarcastic response to the video you are posting.


Finding the right ones/combination is by trial & error (Meds). Vast majority of the meds used are actually developed for something else, again trial & error (lets see if this works/helps).
So those with mental illness are essentially human guinea pigs, sad but true.


And this is true for many non-mental illnesses. Brain chemistry is complex, but findings the right anxiety medication for a patient can be the difference between someone being able to live a normal life, or someone choosing to end theirs.
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Re: There's no such thing as mental illness

Postby Fancy » Nov 24th, 2017, 2:48 pm

I skimmed through the video. Did anyone else take a look at it?
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Re: There's no such thing as mental illness

Postby alanjh595 » Nov 24th, 2017, 2:56 pm

"I know that I am not mentally ill. My Mom had me tested"
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Re: There's no such thing as mental illness

Postby Bsuds » Nov 24th, 2017, 3:11 pm

Just look at some of the Castanutters and that should change your mind about no Mental illness.

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Re: There's no such thing as mental illness

Postby gman313 » Nov 24th, 2017, 3:40 pm

GordonH wrote:
Finding the right ones/combination is by trial & error (Meds). Vast majority of the meds used are actually developed for something else, again trial & error (lets see if this works/helps).
So those with mental illness are essentially human guinea pigs, sad but true.


Good news - Trial and error no longer required (if you have a group benefits plan)

http://www.personalizedprescribing.com/
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Re: There's no such thing as mental illness

Postby GordonH » Nov 24th, 2017, 4:16 pm

GordonH wrote:Finding the right ones/combination is by trial & error (Meds). Vast majority of the meds used are actually developed for something else, again trial & error (lets see if this works/helps).
So those with mental illness are essentially human guinea pigs, sad but true.

gman313 wrote:Good news - Trial and error no longer required (if you have a group benefits plan)

http://www.personalizedprescribing.com/

The plan does help to find the med/s that best works for an individual. This is were trying a med if it does not work then move on to next med..... so on & so on hence trial & error (until one is found or a combination of meds).
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Re: There's no such thing as mental illness

Postby GordonH » Nov 24th, 2017, 4:22 pm

Omnitheo wrote:A lot of mental illnesses do have drugs that can help. And like many illnesses, mental or physical, sometimes there are no drugs or cures.

There are a number of tests to diagnose a variety of mental illnesses, and there is plenty of science to it.

I am not in a place where I can view your video, but I can say the doctors I am working with today would see you as a laughingstock for those comments.

Honestly, your post appears incredibly ignorant and just plain incorrect. I’m kinda hoping it is a sarcastic response to the video you are posting.

GordonH wrote:Finding the right ones/combination is by trial & error (Meds). Vast majority of the meds used are actually developed for something else, again trial & error (lets see if this works/helps).
So those with mental illness are essentially human guinea pigs, sad but true.

Omnitheo wrote:And this is true for many non-mental illnesses. Brain chemistry is complex, but findings the right anxiety medication for a patient can be the difference between someone being able to live a normal life, or someone choosing to end theirs.


The friends I have are dealing with bipolar or schizophrenia. They told me it was hell finding the meds that helped them.
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Re: There's no such thing as mental illness

Postby alanjh595 » Nov 24th, 2017, 4:31 pm

AND...it takes at least 6 weeks of trial before the treatment has been diagnosed as an error. These drugs take a long time to have any noticeable effect and the patient may not even be aware of the subtle changes that they may or may not taken notice of.
It may take 4 or more trials @ 6 weeks each to find the right one. Most likely, a patient will become disappointed within that time period and cease further trials. Each trial may produce results that the patient does not like and stop the meds before the brain has had the full effect and become accustomed to the benefits to continue treatment and just return to the last place they remember as feeling okay.
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Re: There's no such thing as mental illness

Postby Glacier » Nov 24th, 2017, 4:37 pm

It should be pointed out/added that Stefan does not say that mental illness suffering isn't real, rather, the Big Pharma solutions of using drugs are not how you treat an injury long term. By prescribing drugs, you're not curing the illness, you're basically just adding a nice smelling scent to the sh** house. Ya, you no longer smell the stinky stuff, but your'e not doing any good to actually addressing the source of the problem.

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Re: There's no such thing as mental illness

Postby Queen K » Nov 24th, 2017, 4:40 pm

I don't care what Stefan says, he had his head up his <bleep>, if it wasn't for long term meds, Mr. QK's family member would be completely unmanagable and not able to live in a stable home like enviroment with others who also stay on their meds.
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