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Dangerous Jobs

Postby oldtrucker » Jan 26th, 2018, 4:16 pm

Do you have a dangerous job? Do you feel a lot or a little anxiety before you start your day at that job. How much anxiety is healthy(keeps you frosty and alive) or weighs you down -as in just dreading going to work .Do you get compensated properly to deal with the dangers and emotional strain ? Long ago, while in the aviation industry, I would not get sleep the day prior to a trip, which of course effected the safety of everything. Years later I dread going to work when my life and others lives are in serious danger. Am I too soft? How do you feel when going to work and seriously contemplating that you may not make it home?
What does it do to your soul in the long run?
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Re: Dangerous Jobs

Postby TreeGuy » Jan 26th, 2018, 4:55 pm

In this photo I am taking down one of the largest trees in my career. It was 120' tall, 3' wide at the butt. So yes, a very dangerous job. I would get a little bit anxious the night before but once on the job the adrenalin takes over. I always worked carefully and methodically. I was lucky to have a good mentor early on in my career that taught me to work safe.

I worked almost 20 years in the tree industry without injury to myself or others. I've climbed a lot of trees. And in a matter of seconds my career in the trees ended this past July. And one might think I fell out of a tree, in fact that was even a rumour that went around. Nope, I didn't fall out of a tree. I fell off an FN orchard ladder while trimming a hedge. I broke my neck, shattered my C5 vertebrae and damaged my spinal cord. If you're gonna do it, do it right I say! LOL I'm thankful and lucky I didn't end up in a wheelchair.

Guys doing this kind of work don't get paid nearly enough. Less than $30/hour, often much less. And the wear and tear on the body is hard. But I sure loved doing it! In that picture when I was at the 100' mark I ripped 20' top off of it, nothing beats that adrenalin high.

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Re: Dangerous Jobs

Postby alanjh595 » Jan 26th, 2018, 4:59 pm

You have my respect. I couldn't do it.
If at first you don't succeed, skydiving is not for you.

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Re: Dangerous Jobs

Postby Queen K » Jan 26th, 2018, 5:09 pm

Sure do. So many things can happen in Healthcare it isn't funny. I'll elaborate later.
Could it be that a whole life can shift the day one starts telling the truth about what makes one happy?

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Re: Dangerous Jobs

Postby oldtrucker » Jan 26th, 2018, 5:20 pm

Healthcare....I'm gonna guess workplace violence?
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Re: Dangerous Jobs

Postby Queen K » Jan 26th, 2018, 5:28 pm

Most definitely, that's just one aspect of it. :D I'm trying to decide how elaborate to get on this topic.

Okay, quick list:

Getting infected with all sorts of diseases and viruses. Hence "universal precautions."
Getting into serious issues with predator clients
Obvious violence is one thing: getting swung at and hit (happened to me years ago and recently, yes, a person can really kick you into a wall, but there is the "soft violence" - verbal abuse, being treated like a slave, being abused, and having sexual innuendo/leering/touching/comments.

Does getting to work count? Where most people park all day, we drive in Winter road conditions under time schedules.

How about home conditions: uncontained animals, slippery flooring, lack of proper functioning furniture, and various other stuff most people never have to contemplate.

Now that list isn't every day stuff, but most of it is faced at one time or another. Some days are wonderfully free of danger while others feel like the Heaven's opened up.
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Re: Dangerous Jobs

Postby lesliepaul » Jan 26th, 2018, 10:50 pm

Looked at several "dangerous job" sites and as I thought, Firemen are NOT on the Top 10 list. In fact, on a couple of sites Firemen were rated "less dangerous" than cashiers. Time for this financial drain on taxpayers to be reigned in.
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Re: Dangerous Jobs

Postby oldtrucker » Jan 26th, 2018, 11:35 pm

How high did you fall from 'TreeGuy' ? Sounds nasty painful.

I read that roofers have the most dangerous job that does not involve an engine of some kind. Farmer/rancher was right up there. I'm not sure if there would be anti anxiety pills needed before going to work though.
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Re: Dangerous Jobs

Postby dirtybiker » Jan 27th, 2018, 12:02 am

Dangerous how ?

I just removed a half hour post.

in place.

My chosen fields through heritage of my ancestors have put me near the top of the
list in several classifications of danger.

Danger to my internals that may not rear their ugly heads for a time.

and/or

The immediate that could kill or injury me in a moment, whether my own fault
or the fault of other(s)
Or just the way stuff happens and being there.

Very subjective topic.

No matter ones chosen field, it will have it's pitfalls.
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Re: Dangerous Jobs

Postby oldtrucker » Jan 27th, 2018, 12:50 am

'dirtybiker'As in one tiny oversight and you and other people die dangerous.

A possible example of one dangerous job that may apply to the scenario-- heavy wrecker operator based in Hope. Varying degrees of bad roads to "why am I doing this" winter hell roads. Not knowing if it will be a short 14 hour day or 3 days that would take 3 months off your life. Starting 12 hours before your shift, watching the weather forecast to see to what degree of high stress you will be subjected to cause you know the weather is getting way worse. Knowing once you go to that job, there is no getting away from it( and/or danger ) until the job is done ,regardless of the time or anything else. Perhaps not the best example ,but it would be easy to see how it would wear on a person physically /emotionally over time.
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Re: Dangerous Jobs

Postby dirtybiker » Jan 27th, 2018, 2:01 am

Everything anyone does has it's dangers.

The more options and alternatives one has in the course of
duties and obligations minimizes risk of health and injury.

Injury and/or death holds no prejudice
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Re: Dangerous Jobs

Postby TreeGuy » Jan 27th, 2018, 2:17 am

oldtrucker wrote:How high did you fall from 'TreeGuy' ? Sounds nasty painful.

I read that roofers have the most dangerous job that does not involve an engine of some kind. Farmer/rancher was right up there. I'm not sure if there would be anti anxiety pills needed before going to work though.


I’m not totally sure as I have some amnesia. I was on a 12’ ladder, my head was probably at least 12’ or more.

Here is an article talking about the level of danger an Arborist faces.

But let this not be a *bleep* match.

http://nationalpost.com/posted-toronto/how-cutting-down-trees-can-be-one-of-the-most-dangerous-jobs-you-can-get-in-a-city

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Re: Dangerous Jobs

Postby Smurf » Jan 27th, 2018, 6:11 am

one of the most dangerous things with all jobs is familiarity. When you get too comfortable and to confident you tend to take more chances and/or not pay as much attention. I found as a safety officer that many accidents happened when the person was doing a simple task not an very dangerous one.

Probably the worst worker accident I had was lifting a propane tank, BBQ size, 38 lbs into the back of a half ton at the service station. I knew in my mind it was light, no problem, so I grabbed it and quickly twisted around and set it in the truck. The worst part was as I safety officer I had put on lifting demonstrations and then did something this stupid. Tore my rotator cuff. The doctor said my bicep was more than 3/4's torn off and almost not repairable. Yet I worked on large construction and industrial sites with all voltages of electricity for decades which is considered quite dangerous and never had a real injury.

Remember never to get to complacent just because something is familiar and simple. Remember even the simplest of jobs have their dangers.
Consider how hard it is to change yourself and you'll understand what little chance you have of changing others.

The happiest of people don't necessarily have the best of everything, they just make the most of everything that comes their way.

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Re: Dangerous Jobs

Postby Queen K » Jan 27th, 2018, 6:15 am

Yes, familariy most definitely. In CHWLand, it's not wanting to upset the client. So when ask something absurd, even simple things can turn into personal injury not covered by WCB. And you don't want to deal with them under the best of circumstances.
Could it be that a whole life can shift the day one starts telling the truth about what makes one happy?

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Re: Dangerous Jobs

Postby seewood » Jan 27th, 2018, 6:45 am

I had a dangerous job for about 25 years. Got to a point where I was nervous to go to work, so got out of it and started another business for 14 years now. Paid off the building and now going to retire after selling building and equipment. One of the lucky ones without a permanent injury and still alive.
Past job was falling , mainly for helicopter shows where conventional harvesting couldn't get to. Did some contracting as well. I did 3 years post secondary, 2 at BCIT/forestry, but still went into falling. The adrenalin rush was there at times so were the injuries and hospital stays.
Thing with trees is they can be unpredictable with hidden surprises in a 13 foot hollow yellow cedar. Think about the possibilities of it going pear shaped and one can usually get the tree down without too much drama.
Was also poc fire guy for 19 years. Thing with being a fire fighter is one usually does have the option to deal with a dangerous situation and will usually have options to deal with it in a safer way. I was always told, "you did not start the fire so don't unduly risk your life to deal with the fire" Risk VS. benefit was always going through my mind as a fire fighter and later as an officer.
In falling, several trees, snags actually, over the years I found too dangerous to cut down so we blew them. Several wraps with B-line and all was good. Jacking a half rotten 6 foot hemlock tree so it would not fall into a creek was an interesting exercise as well.
Now I get a chance to putter around the house if one of Okanagan's drivers does not get me first.
Regarding remuneration, a couple of years ago I was told a company up north were looking for fallers, day rate for 6.5 hours on the stump was $700.00 all found. I worked with several over the years that were functionally illiterate. Career fire fighters I believe are paid very well. perhaps some have post secondary education, but I believe if you pass all the tests and are selected, a rookie has a very good starting wage. Many FF's in Penticton can push $80-110,000 a year with a great pension.
I am not wealthy but I am rich

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