What the NRA is against

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The White House on Sunday pledged to help states pay for firearms training for teachers and reiterated its call to improve the background check system as part of a new plan to prevent school shootings.

But in a move sure to please the gun lobby, the plan does not include a push to increase the minimum age for purchasing assault weapons to 21, which President Donald Trump had repeatedly championed.

Isn't that awesome that social policy is determined by politicians beholding to a lobby group instead of by politicians beholding to their constituents? Democracy is way over-rated anyway. Maybe you should move to North Korea. :smt045

(Imagine if policy was determined by an environmental lobby group. Hypocrisy knows no bounds with the lunatic right)
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Ka-El wrote:
Queen K wrote: Do you honestly believe that the Parkland massacre was staged? :135:

Proud, life-long members not typically the brightest bulbs on the cord. Could be chemtrail exposure.


I haven't seen anyone that full of it since the days of Nicklan.
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I didn't see anything there that as an NRA supporter I would care about - except the Bumpstock ban - which I am NOT certain I would challenge on anything but Constitutional grounds - that being that there is NO provision in the constitution for limiting ANY type of firearm by anyone.

But thinking of this as a slippery slope to BEGIN a total gun ban - the GOAL of the Socialist/Fascist movement - it's scary to think of the next step and the next. Having a gun in your home is ONLY a defense when you have quick access to it.

Maybe I misunderstood the writer, but NO restrictions are permitted by the constitution. Maybe THAT is the point he is making.
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Looks like there are some smart kids out there.


http://www.breitbart.com/big-government ... amendment/
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NRA doesn't seem to be concerned about the "slippery slope" of mass murders of innocent people. The 2nd amendment does talk about a "well regulated militia", so yes regulation is presumed to be a part of this. Doesn't sound like unfettered freedom for any firearm kept by every maniac out there. Citizens who are not law abiding or have a propensity to violent or dangerous behavior should be "well regulated". The constitution was not designed to allow ordinary sickos to perform mass executions, while the state has to follow legal procedures before they impose a death penalty.
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Silverstarqueen wrote:NRA doesn't seem to be concerned about the "slippery slope" of mass murders of innocent people. The 2nd amendment does talk about a "well regulated militia", so yes regulation is presumed to be a part of this. Doesn't sound like unfettered freedom for any firearm kept by every maniac out there. Citizens who are not law abiding or have a propensity to violent or dangerous behavior should be "well regulated". The constitution was not designed to allow ordinary sickos to perform mass executions, while the state has to follow legal procedures before they impose a death penalty.



Cops were on scene at Parkland. They waited outside. The police will not protect the people. It is up to the people to protect themselves. Thank god for the 2nd
Now they want to take our guns away . That would be just fine. Take em away from the criminals first . Ill gladly give u mine. "Charlie Daniels"

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Coral Springs police officers did enter the building on arrival.
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So would u cary if u were American. Or would u prefer to be a target ?
Now they want to take our guns away . That would be just fine. Take em away from the criminals first . Ill gladly give u mine. "Charlie Daniels"

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Jflem1983 wrote:So would u cary if u were American. Or would u prefer to be a target ?

I don't do "what ifs" nor answer silly questions. I'm Canadian and only carry when I'm in the bush.
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Silverstarqueen wrote:NRA doesn't seem to be concerned about the "slippery slope" of mass murders of innocent people. The 2nd amendment does talk about a "well regulated militia", so yes regulation is presumed to be a part of this. Doesn't sound like unfettered freedom for any firearm kept by every maniac out there. Citizens who are not law abiding or have a propensity to violent or dangerous behavior should be "well regulated". The constitution was not designed to allow ordinary sickos to perform mass executions, while the state has to follow legal procedures before they impose a death penalty.


Jflem1983 wrote:Cops were on scene at Parkland. They waited outside. The police will not protect the people. It is up to the people to protect themselves. Thank god for the 2nd


Completely ignoring the fact that the 2nd allowed an unstable individual to amass several weapons and massacre children (who presumably do not have a right to carry around firearms.) And you think we should thank God? When the las Vegas Killer was shooting from his vantage point, the 2nd amendment did not help those people one bit. Should we thank God that another nut had the right to kill as many possible on any given day? If the second amendment was being implemented to such great advantage, why does the US have such an abysmal record number of innocents being killed , year after year,compared to other civilized countries?
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Silverstarqueen wrote:
Silverstarqueen wrote:NRA doesn't seem to be concerned about the "slippery slope" of mass murders of innocent people. The 2nd amendment does talk about a "well regulated militia", so yes regulation is presumed to be a part of this. Doesn't sound like unfettered freedom for any firearm kept by every maniac out there. Citizens who are not law abiding or have a propensity to violent or dangerous behavior should be "well regulated". The constitution was not designed to allow ordinary sickos to perform mass executions, while the state has to follow legal procedures before they impose a death penalty.


Jflem1983 wrote:Cops were on scene at Parkland. They waited outside. The police will not protect the people. It is up to the people to protect themselves. Thank god for the 2nd


Completely ignoring the fact that the 2nd allowed an unstable individual to amass several weapons and massacre children (who presumably do not have a right to carry around firearms.) And you think we should thank God? When the las Vegas Killer was shooting from his vantage point, the 2nd amendment did not help those people one bit. Should we thank God that another nut had the right to kill as many possible on any given day? If the second amendment was being implemented to such great advantage, why does the US have such an abysmal record number of innocents being killed compared to other civilized countries?



Got any facts to support that claim.
Now they want to take our guns away . That would be just fine. Take em away from the criminals first . Ill gladly give u mine. "Charlie Daniels"

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Ran across this article:

But a study of global mass-shooting incidents from 2009 to 2015 by the Crime Prevention Research Center, headed by economist John Lott, shows the U.S. doesn't lead the world in mass shootings. In fact, it doesn't even make the top 10, when measured by death rate per million population from mass public shootings.


https://www.investors.com/politics/edit ... shootings/
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Murders per million (by gun), countries compared

http://www.nationmaster.com/country-inf ... er-million
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That's from 2002. What's been posted so far is more recent.
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