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Re: What the NRA is against

Postby Jack DeBear » Feb 26th, 2018, 3:55 pm

Glacier wrote:Military weapons are BANNED already in the USA. Semi-autos are not military weapons. I can go hunting with my semi-autos out near Lumby no problem.



Why use a semi-auto?
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Re: What the NRA is against

Postby Glacier » Feb 26th, 2018, 4:02 pm

Jack DeBear wrote:Why use a semi-auto?

Good for bird hunting.
Less recoil when you fire (good for if you miss your target and you want to make sure your deer is dead before it runs off injured).
Easier to carry ammunition.
Cheap rifle.
Fun for target practice.

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Re: What the NRA is against

Postby Jflem1983 » Feb 26th, 2018, 4:05 pm

Personally i could give a hoot what some non member thinks of a private club. If u want to have an opinion on the NRA join. Send you 35 dollars American and sign up for a year. 1000 dollars US gets you a lifetime membership like me
Now they want to take our guns away . That would be just fine. Take em away from the criminals first . Ill gladly give u mine. "Charlie Daniels"

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Re: What the NRA is against

Postby Jack DeBear » Feb 26th, 2018, 4:15 pm

Hey, Jflem1983,

I've been studying of the NRA website, and I’m thinking the NRA may have started going off the rails around 1997.

Could this have been the beginning of a planned profitable counteraction approach in response to the supposed ‘gains’ they’d been making up until then?

The American Hunter and The American Rifleman were the mainstays of NRA publications until the debut of The American Guardian in 1997. The Guardian was created to cater to a more mainstream audience, with less emphasis on the technicalities of firearms and a more general focus on self-defense and recreational use of firearms. The Guardian was renamed America's 1st Freedom in June of 2000.

https://home.nra.org/about-the-nra/
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Re: What the NRA is against

Postby Jflem1983 » Feb 26th, 2018, 4:19 pm

Jack DeBear wrote:Hey, Jflem1983,

I've been studying of the NRA website, and I’m thinking the NRA may have started going off the rails around 1997.

Could this have been the beginning of a planned profitable counteraction approach in response to the supposed ‘gains’ they’d been making up until then?

The American Hunter and The American Rifleman were the mainstays of NRA publications until the debut of The American Guardian in 1997. The Guardian was created to cater to a more mainstream audience, with less emphasis on the technicalities of firearms and a more general focus on self-defense and recreational use of firearms. The Guardian was renamed America's 1st Freedom in June of 2000.

https://home.nra.org/about-the-nra/



Not sure. I joined in 2015. Maybe it was 2014. The last time they got blamed for a school shooting .
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Re: What the NRA is against

Postby Jack DeBear » Feb 26th, 2018, 4:27 pm

Glacier wrote:
Jack DeBear wrote:Why use a semi-auto?

Good for bird hunting.
Less recoil when you fire (good for if you miss your target and you want to make sure your deer is dead before it runs off injured).
Easier to carry ammunition.
Cheap rifle.
Fun for target practice.


LOL

Reminds me of the movie, Into the Wild, where Chris has to use a semi to take down a moose.



Think you’d need your semi for something like that?
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Re: What the NRA is against

Postby Jflem1983 » Feb 26th, 2018, 4:30 pm

Jack DeBear wrote:Hey, Jflem1983,

I've been studying of the NRA website, and I’m thinking the NRA may have started going off the rails around 1997.

Could this have been the beginning of a planned profitable counteraction approach in response to the supposed ‘gains’ they’d been making up until then?

The American Hunter and The American Rifleman were the mainstays of NRA publications until the debut of The American Guardian in 1997. The Guardian was created to cater to a more mainstream audience, with less emphasis on the technicalities of firearms and a more general focus on self-defense and recreational use of firearms. The Guardian was renamed America's 1st Freedom in June of 2000.

https://home.nra.org/about-the-nra/


I read rifleman every month. Some good info and some stuff just hawking products as well. If any one is interested i would be happy to let u look through some of my NRA stuff. I think i have an NRA lawbook or whatever they call it somewhere.
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Re: What the NRA is against

Postby Ka-El » Feb 26th, 2018, 4:52 pm

Jflem1983 wrote: If u want to have an opinion on the NRA join.

I have an opinion on both Antifa and the Ku Klux Klan. Are you really suggesting I have to join those organizations to have an opinion on them? Kinda funny (in a hypocritical sort of way) how you can argue about rights and freedoms out of one orifice while contradicting yourself out of another (I guess the right to own assault rifles trumps the right of free speech).

Jflem1983 wrote: Send you 35 dollars American and sign up for a year. 1000 dollars US gets you a lifetime membership like me

And all the Republican lawmakers bought and owned by the NRA thank you for your donation. :smt045
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Re: What the NRA is against

Postby vegas1500 » Feb 26th, 2018, 7:44 pm

[/quote]NO ONE should have any access at anytime to military style hardware that is only designed to kill people.
The NRA supports citizens and crazies having military weapons.
These weapons are only used to kill people[/quote]

They are also used for sport......which I’ve been doing for many years.... and I’ve never killed anyone. :130:
I find it a great stress reliever from the daily grind.

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Re: What the NRA is against

Postby Ka-El » Feb 26th, 2018, 8:24 pm

vegas1500 wrote: They are also used for sport......which I’ve been doing for many years.... and I’ve never killed anyone. :130:
I find it a great stress reliever from the daily grind.

I’ve also gone to the range with my sheriff buddies and spent the afternoon firing their Glock 19 Gen4, switching from target practice at various distances to rapid fire drills. Very cool and lots of fun. I still wouldn’t want buddy meth head from down the road to be able to walk into a gun store and pick one up. The NRA, on the other hand, is outraged that some people would want to conduct background checks on prospective buyers. They are starting to bend, but the pressure has been on for years now. Why the resistance? Is this really about freedom and liberty, or is it more about gun sales?

Now that the president is finally starting to cave and at least talking about enhanced background checks and more money for mental health (we’ll have to see), it is clear the trade-off is going to be the push to getting more guns into the schools in the hands of reluctant teachers. Hey – if the psychos can’t buy them we’ll make the teachers buy them.
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Re: What the NRA is against

Postby Jack DeBear » Feb 27th, 2018, 8:28 am

Jack DeBear wrote:What will it lose?

Jflem1983 wrote:Nothing if the NRA is able to stand tall. Beat back the evil democrats.

Jack DeBear wrote: Well, from what I’ve read here since you posted that, and from what you just wrote, it sounds like the NRA that you belong to could actually be a postmodernist far left movement.


My statement was mainly meant to provoke study and discussion. And I really don’t think the NRA is, ‘far left,’ but my journey into its website is turning up plenty of examples of postmodernist traits.

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Glacier wrote:Why use a semi-auto?

Good for bird hunting.
Less recoil when you fire (good for if you miss your target and you want to make sure your deer is dead before it runs off injured).
Easier to carry ammunition.
Cheap rifle.
Fun for target practice.


Jack DeBear wrote:LOL

Reminds me of the movie, Into the Wild, where Chris has to use a semi to take down a moose.



Think you’d need your semi for something like that?


Also, maybe that was a bit harsh. But a person with a semi-automatic and buck fever—could be a dangerous mix out there in the wild. And I think my dad would’ve agreed.

Now I'm feeling all fessed up and so off I go to enjoy the great outdoors.
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Re: What the NRA is against

Postby NotNorthAnymore » Feb 27th, 2018, 9:00 am

Glacier wrote:
Jack DeBear wrote:Why use a semi-auto?

Good for bird hunting.
Less recoil when you fire (good for if you miss your target and you want to make sure your deer is dead before it runs off injured).
Easier to carry ammunition.
Cheap rifle.
Fun for target practice.


A real hunter does not need to use a military AR for hunting.
A real hunter will learn to aim and use a bolt action or maybe a semi auto with 2 or 3 rounds.
If you can't hit the target in the bush with an actual hunting rifle - you do not deserve to be in the bush.

If you need to have a 10 shot clip and an AR, all you are is a crap shot with bloodlust.
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Re: What the NRA is against

Postby Jflem1983 » Feb 27th, 2018, 9:14 am

A real hunter does not need to use a military AR for hunting.
A real hunter will learn to aim and use a bolt action or maybe a semi auto with 2 or 3 rounds.
If you can't hit the target in the bush with an actual hunting rifle - you do not deserve to be in the bush.

If you need to have a 10 shot clip and an AR, all you are is a crap shot with bloodlust.[/quote]


I dont think anyone said an AR was for hunting. Although i know in some states its used as a varmint gun.
Its a 223 as such its too small to use on deer in many Provinces and states. For instance. Sask requires a 243 or bigger
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Re: What the NRA is against

Postby vegas1500 » Feb 27th, 2018, 9:28 am

Good for bird hunting.
Less recoil when you fire (good for if you miss your target and you want to make sure your deer is dead before it runs off injured).
Easier to carry ammunition.
Cheap rifle.
Fun for target practice.[/quote]

A real hunter does not need to use a military AR for hunting.
A real hunter will learn to aim and use a bolt action or maybe a semi auto with 2 or 3 rounds.
If you can't hit the target in the bush with an actual hunting rifle - you do not deserve to be in the bush.

If you need to have a 10 shot clip and an AR, all you are is a crap shot with bloodlust.[/quote]

You cannot use a military AR for hunting as they are restricted weapons.....but can use a semi auto rifle. Read up on the laws before spreading misinformation.

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Re: What the NRA is against

Postby Dizzy1 » Feb 28th, 2018, 12:42 am

Jflem1983 wrote:Personally i could give a hoot what some non member thinks of a private club. If u want to have an opinion on the NRA join. Send you 35 dollars American and sign up for a year. 1000 dollars US gets you a lifetime membership like me

And I couldn't give a hoot what a member of private club thinks when they're hiding behind an archaic script and making up the most ridiculous arguments to justify their "right" to own weapons that keep killing innocent people including children in almost a weekly event.

More and more people don't give a hoot about the NRA anymore either - every shooting drive's another nail in its coffin. Their days are numbered :up:

But hey, the weapons of choice of these lunatics play no factor at all - nah, not at all :up:
Nobody wants to hear your opinion. They just want to hear their own opinion coming out of your mouth.

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