Alaska's Bering Sea Lost a Third of Its Ice in Just 8 Days

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Re: Alaska's Bering Sea Lost a Third of Its Ice in Just 8 Da

Postby Silverstarqueen » Feb 27th, 2018, 10:54 pm

Greenland temperatures over the last 10,000 years. Things are not that comparatively hot right now.

https://www.google.ca/search?q=arctic+t ... wwC7wF0UzM:
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Re: Alaska's Bering Sea Lost a Third of Its Ice in Just 8 Da

Postby Silverstarqueen » Feb 27th, 2018, 10:58 pm

Silverstarqueen wrote:There are a number of glaciers world-wide which are advancing. One of which is in Alaska.
Anyone get the sense lately that a mini-ice age is approaching? This is how it starts, longer winters than usual, that eventually just blend into short summer, then early fall. Crops fail.....

https://earthobservatory.nasa.gov/IOTD/ ... p?id=85900

Bigjohn69 wrote:That is from 2015


You can see where the glacier was in 1978, and 2002. and at the time of the article.
So the point is, to take just 8 days in some random location does not indicate a lot that is significant, just as one or fifteen advancing glaciers does not mean an ice age is actually approaching.
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Re: Alaska's Bering Sea Lost a Third of Its Ice in Just 8 Da

Postby Bigjohn69 » Feb 27th, 2018, 11:10 pm

I have been to many glaciers in bc in the 1970s and then went back in 2000s. They are melting


http://www.stewartcassiarhighway.com/at ... cial-park/


http://www.oneonta.edu/faculty/baumanpr ... t_Down.htm


The evidence is there in plain sight .one just needs to see
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Re: Alaska's Bering Sea Lost a Third of Its Ice in Just 8 Da

Postby Silverstarqueen » Feb 27th, 2018, 11:29 pm

Rome (and Europe) is experiencing its coldest winter in five years. Don't worry , it will warm up again, probably, lol.

https://www.cnn.com/2018/02/26/europe/r ... index.html

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Re: Alaska's Bering Sea Lost a Third of Its Ice in Just 8 Da

Postby Dizzy1 » Feb 27th, 2018, 11:32 pm

Bigjohn69 wrote:I have been to many glaciers in bc in the 1970s and then went back in 2000s. They are melting


http://www.stewartcassiarhighway.com/at ... cial-park/


http://www.oneonta.edu/faculty/baumanpr ... t_Down.htm


The evidence is there in plain sight .one just needs to see

Good thing that the glacier that formed the very valley we live in hasn't melted yet ... oh wait :132:
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Re: Alaska's Bering Sea Lost a Third of Its Ice in Just 8 Da

Postby Silverstarqueen » Feb 27th, 2018, 11:34 pm

Glaciers grow, glaciers shrink. New Zealand had 58 glaciers grow between 1983 and 2008, wasn't the world warming during that period?

https://phys.org/news/2017-02-zealand-u ... ciers.html

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Re: Alaska's Bering Sea Lost a Third of Its Ice in Just 8 Da

Postby Dizzy1 » Feb 27th, 2018, 11:56 pm

Silverstarqueen wrote:Glaciers grow, glaciers shrink. New Zealand had 58 glaciers grow between 1983 and 2008, wasn't the world warming during that period?

https://phys.org/news/2017-02-zealand-u ... ciers.html

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Re: Alaska's Bering Sea Lost a Third of Its Ice in Just 8 Da

Postby Silverstarqueen » Feb 28th, 2018, 12:11 am

Siberia has the best and worst of global warming and freezing:
" The temperature in Oymyakon plunged to minus-88 degrees Fahrenheit in early January.

In Oymyakon, and other parts of Siberia, temperatures also were about 60 degrees above average on Tuesday, thanks to the clockwise circulation of air around the high pressure area. That's a 100-degree Fahrenheit temperature swing from two weeks ago, when temperatures were as cold as minus-40 to minus-88 degrees Fahrenheit in that area, leading to viral videos of people with icicles hanging from their eyelashes"
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Re: Alaska's Bering Sea Lost a Third of Its Ice in Just 8 Da

Postby Glacier » Feb 28th, 2018, 2:55 pm

Most of the melting glaciers have been melting over the past 10,000 years when Canada was covered in ice. If the temperature were to plunge to temperatures of the 1600s, they'd still continue melting because they're left over from a time when Canada was a mile deep with ice.
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Re: Alaska's Bering Sea Lost a Third of Its Ice in Just 8 Da

Postby Bigjohn69 » Feb 28th, 2018, 3:43 pm

Glacier wrote:Most of the melting glaciers have been melting over the past 10,000 years when Canada was covered in ice. If the temperature were to plunge to temperatures of the 1600s, they'd still continue melting because they're left over from a time when Canada was a mile deep with ice.




Your wrong . It is not temp that grows a glacier it is snowfall . And how much of that snow is left at beggining of each winter .

Warmimg earth produces more rain less snow .

But that is not here or there as it is the rate of change compared to. Pre industrial age that counts and that is as clear as glacial streams

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Re: Alaska's Bering Sea Lost a Third of Its Ice in Just 8 Da

Postby Silverstarqueen » Mar 3rd, 2018, 7:09 pm

Europe suffering thru a deep freeze: Ireland and britain call in the army

https://www.cnbc.com/2018/03/02/snow-st ... -army.html
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Re: Alaska's Bering Sea Lost a Third of Its Ice in Just 8 Da

Postby Glacier » Mar 3rd, 2018, 10:44 pm

Bigjohn69 wrote:
Your wrong . It is not temp that grows a glacier it is snowfall . And how much of that snow is left at beggining of each winter .

Warmimg earth produces more rain less snow .

But that is not here or there as it is the rate of change compared to. Pre industrial age that counts and that is as clear as glacial streams


We are both right. Snowfall and temperature. The places losing ice still get as much snow as 100 years ago, but warmer temperatures mean more of it melts.
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Re: Alaska's Bering Sea Lost a Third of Its Ice in Just 8 Da

Postby Silverstarqueen » Mar 5th, 2018, 2:11 pm

All this worry about the Polar Bear becoming extinct, why wouldn't they evolve instead, as they have done in the past, thru warmer and colder periods? They must be smarter than the average bear to have survived as well as they have.

https://www.adn.com/arctic/article/pola ... 012/04/19/
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Re: Alaska's Bering Sea Lost a Third of Its Ice in Just 8 Da

Postby youjustcomplain » Mar 5th, 2018, 3:41 pm

Silverstarqueen wrote:All this worry about the Polar Bear becoming extinct, why wouldn't they evolve instead, as they have done in the past, thru warmer and colder periods? They must be smarter than the average bear to have survived as well as they have.

https://www.adn.com/arctic/article/pola ... 012/04/19/


Just a thought, but my understanding is that it takes a species many generations to "evolve". Many generations of Polar bears would be several hundreds of years at the very least, but it may take thousands before we'd see an evolved difference in the species. If they lose their habitat within 20 years, (just an example), there simply won't be time to "evolve". Can they adapt to their new environment? Time will tell. What is evident to many people is that the planet is undergoing large scale climate change. In some places it's warming, others it's cooling and almost everywhere is seeing more violent weather patterns as a result.

What do people get from denying that the changes are happening? Any way we slice it, the amount of carbon we're adding to our atmosphere is higher than it's ever been and getting higher daily. Science has shown that this is not good. Why continue to argue that all of the side effects from adding that much carbon is not harmful and has no effect?

(This isn't just a reply to you Silverstar Queen). It's just more a rant to anyone who denies climate change.

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Re: Alaska's Bering Sea Lost a Third of Its Ice in Just 8 Da

Postby Silverstarqueen » Mar 6th, 2018, 9:44 am

Previous wide swings in climate have occurred before in a matter of a few hundred years (medieval warming period vs. mini ice age, as an example). Most animals are quite adaptable, example: horses (equines) can live in the wild in the african plains or siberia and mongolia. They grow a heavier coat, more body fat etc. as long as they have enough to browse on. Far more animals become extinct due to the pressure of the population of humans expanding into their territory. Which is something humans could do something about,but no one seems to have the will to do it. Polar bears didn't disappear during the medieval warm period, they likely adapted to whatever conditions were there, people did not impinge on their natural adaptions. Now if people move into the arctic (and you can bet they will) , or begin more oil or gas drilling, it would only take one or two oil spills to completely mess up what ever the animals are doing up there. But climate change will not, has not, hurt the polar bears.

There will always be people who claim the climate isn't changing, just as you will always have people claim the earth is flat. This actually has nothing at all do with climate change it is a human phenomenon. The debate isn't really about whether or not there is change, but about how we can, should adapt to it, and whether we can even prevent it from changing. If we get a few more years like this winter, where crops can't be put in the ground in a timely way, or harvested before the next winter, global warming will be the least of our problems.

So here you see, in the space of about 2000 years, a temperature change (warming) of about 20 degrees celsius. That's two degrees for every 100 years, not so far off our current rate of warming.Note, this sudden warming happened 15000 years ago, then it got much colder again, then warmed up again10000 years ago. Huge swings in temperature in matter of a five thousand years.


https://wattsupwiththat.com/2011/10/25/ ... 000-years/

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