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What is wrong with women ?

Postby Bigjohn69 » Feb 25th, 2018, 3:00 pm

But through this last year—as it became really apparent that so many white women were against the rights of women, and that so many women who supported Trump and really made this nightmare come true are steadfast in their support of him—I started to get really angry with women. Really, really angry with these women.

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Re: What is wrong with women ?

Postby Gixxer » Feb 25th, 2018, 3:25 pm

Not only did they support Trump. They voted against their own.
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Re: What is wrong with women ?

Postby GordonH » Feb 25th, 2018, 3:37 pm

Bigjohn69 wrote:But through this last year—as it became really apparent that so many white women were against the rights of women, and that so many women who supported Trump and really made this nightmare come true are steadfast in their support of him—I started to get really angry with women. Really, really angry with these women.

http://www.macleans.ca/politics/washing ... ite-women/


Biggest problem was both Presidential candidates they were from the very bottom of the barrel, hard to choose which crap to vote for.
When you have to start compromising yourself and your morals for the people around you, it’s probably time to change the people around you.

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Re: What is wrong with women ?

Postby Gixxer » Feb 25th, 2018, 3:42 pm

I bet Hillary thought she had the election in the bag when they released Trumps locker room talk recording.

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Re: What is wrong with women ?

Postby Bigjohn69 » Feb 25th, 2018, 4:04 pm

Columnist Mona Charen of the Ethics and Public Policy Center was met with jeers and boos when she criticized conservatives for supporting Roy Moore and President Donald Trump during a #UsToo panel at CPAC.

Charen was one of four women on the panel and was asked what upset her about today's feminism.


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Re: What is wrong with women ?

Postby Ka-El » Feb 25th, 2018, 6:07 pm

'I Pray for Him Daily.' Why Socially Conservative Women Stand by Trump

Socially conservative women in politics remain wary but generally supportive of President Donald Trump despite recent allegations of adultery and hush money.

Many white evangelical Christian women leaders see the president as an ally thanks to his conservative judicial appointments, anti-abortion policy changes and decision to move the U.S. embassy in Israel to Jerusalem, among other actions.

Still, they’re not enthusiastic about other recent developments. In recent weeks, allegations surfaced that Trump had affairs with porn star Stormy Daniels and Playboy model Karen McDougal after his wife gave birth, that his personal attorney paid Daniels $130,000 shortly before the election and that an ally at the National Enquirer helped keep McDougal quiet. And then there was his defense of top aide Rob Porter in light of accusations of domestic violence.

http://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/politics/ ... &ocid=iehp
While the research shows that people with right-wing views tend to be less intelligent than those with left-wing views,
the continued excuse-making and support for Donald Trump indicates researchers have underestimated by how much.

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Re: What is wrong with women ?

Postby Lady tehMa » Feb 26th, 2018, 6:54 pm

Gixxer wrote:Not only did they support Trump. They voted against their own.


See, I don't get this. "They voted against their own."

Are women not allowed to make judgments based on platforms? Do we have to vote for someone with the same chromosomal makeup? Trump is not great - that's a given. But he doesn't try to hide what he is. You know what you're getting with him. I have a number of American family members who voted based on *gasp* policies!

If I were American, I probably would have voted Trump. Yeah, he's . . . well, Trump. But Clinton was a viper. Out of two absolutely horrific choices, I could simply not see voting for Clinton.

She's female, and so am I. Similarities end there.
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Re: What is wrong with women ?

Postby Veovis » Feb 26th, 2018, 8:21 pm

Gixxer wrote:Not only did they support Trump. They voted against their own.


Lady tehMa wrote:
See, I don't get this. "They voted against their own."

Are women not allowed to make judgments based on platforms? Do we have to vote for someone with the same chromosomal makeup? Trump is not great - that's a given. But he doesn't try to hide what he is. You know what you're getting with him. I have a number of American family members who voted based on *gasp* policies!

If I were American, I probably would have voted Trump. Yeah, he's . . . well, Trump. But Clinton was a viper. Out of two absolutely horrific choices, I could simply not see voting for Clinton.

She's female, and so am I. Similarities end there.


The fact is, everyone no matter, sex, race, preference or anything can choose who to vote for where they live (democracy pending). What happens if you are gay, straight, white, black, jew, Sikh, man, woman, etc etc etc, and don't vote for whatever loud group is screaming ....well then you "vote against your own"

IT's a guilt trip manipulation that groups use, it is the intelligence and reasonable level of "eat a tide pod to be cool dude", but many fall in line no matter the stupidity level....just like tide pods...

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Re: What is wrong with women ?

Postby JLives » Feb 27th, 2018, 12:09 am

Lady tehMa wrote:See, I don't get this. "They voted against their own."

Are women not allowed to make judgments based on platforms? Do we have to vote for someone with the same chromosomal makeup? Trump is not great - that's a given. But he doesn't try to hide what he is. You know what you're getting with him. I have a number of American family members who voted based on *gasp* policies!

If I were American, I probably would have voted Trump. Yeah, he's . . . well, Trump. But Clinton was a viper. Out of two absolutely horrific choices, I could simply not see voting for Clinton.

She's female, and so am I. Similarities end there.


Not against their own as in voting for a man over a woman. Against their own by voting for a candidate who doesn't support women. At all. Not in health care, child care, treating them as human beings instead of objects, representing his administration.... The panel on Maternity Healthcare was all men. His administration is mostly men. https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/201 ... in-decades

And what platforms? He doesn't have any. He used to be a Democrat. He flip flops mid sentence. There is nothing solid that he stands for outside of promoting the Trump family brand.
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Re: What is wrong with women ?

Postby Lady tehMa » Feb 27th, 2018, 7:40 am

Well, JLives, it has to do with priorities. What you or I consider important. And that differs wildly. You would never catch me wearing a "*bleep* Hat", even though I dislike his old school attitude about women.

What has Trump done that I consider good?

He's recognized Jerusalem as Israel's capital. How many Presidents have promised this and then failed?

He's enacted historic tax and regulatory reform that has unleashed economic growth - you can't deny the US is doing better financially. And most people know that the stock market is currently soaring and that unemployment numbers are crashing to a 17-year low, whether or not you connect these successes to Trump.

He is installing conservative judges who will preside for decades - you will see this as a minus, I see this as a definite plus.

Veterans are finally getting some help (one of my FEMALE friends down there is a Vet), Trump has enacted three major reform bills for the Department of Veterans Affairs.

Trump's immigration views have come under fire but:
The president has put his focus on immigration enforcement, and the effect is beginning to take shape, telling a major success story. ICE has arrested more than 100,000 people who entered the U.S. illegally, 70% of whom were already convicted criminals. ICE removed nearly 2,800 criminal gang members in the last fiscal year. Additionally, President Trump led an international effort to arrest and charge 3,800 MS-13 and 18th Street gang members, two of the most violent gangs on the planet.

Personally, I'd prefer that approach to Trudeau's "Let's welcome ISIS home and give them flowers" approach.

So yeah - Trump is rude, crude and uncouth (though you can say the same for some women's rights protestors). But he has done some things right, and according to my US relatives, the right things.

Like I said, it's about priorities.
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Re: What is wrong with women ?

Postby Grandan » Feb 27th, 2018, 8:02 am

Trump has surrounded himself with criminals. I don't see that as a good thing.
He is paying off his friends by appointing them to political positions when they lack the credentials to do the job.
The economic recovery was underway long before Trump ever came along, the statistics prove that.
He increased the debt to pay off his rich friends, time will tell just how bad that is going to be for the working class.
The (conservative) courts just turned down his latest immigration scheme.
I can't stand to listen to the man talk he is so full of baloney.
Women love men in power and will stand there and smile while he fondles them.
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Re: What is wrong with women ?

Postby JLives » Feb 27th, 2018, 8:36 am

Lady tehMa wrote:Well, JLives, it has to do with priorities. What you or I consider important. And that differs wildly. You would never catch me wearing a "*bleep* Hat", even though I dislike his old school attitude about women.

What has Trump done that I consider good?

He's recognized Jerusalem as Israel's capital. How many Presidents have promised this and then failed?

He's enacted historic tax and regulatory reform that has unleashed economic growth - you can't deny the US is doing better financially. And most people know that the stock market is currently soaring and that unemployment numbers are crashing to a 17-year low, whether or not you connect these successes to Trump.

He is installing conservative judges who will preside for decades - you will see this as a minus, I see this as a definite plus.

Veterans are finally getting some help (one of my FEMALE friends down there is a Vet), Trump has enacted three major reform bills for the Department of Veterans Affairs.

Trump's immigration views have come under fire but:
The president has put his focus on immigration enforcement, and the effect is beginning to take shape, telling a major success story. ICE has arrested more than 100,000 people who entered the U.S. illegally, 70% of whom were already convicted criminals. ICE removed nearly 2,800 criminal gang members in the last fiscal year. Additionally, President Trump led an international effort to arrest and charge 3,800 MS-13 and 18th Street gang members, two of the most violent gangs on the planet.

Personally, I'd prefer that approach to Trudeau's "Let's welcome ISIS home and give them flowers" approach.

So yeah - Trump is rude, crude and uncouth (though you can say the same for some women's rights protestors). But he has done some things right, and according to my US relatives, the right things.

Like I said, it's about priorities.


I suppose it does. My priorities are giving everyone a fair shake at life. That means working together to provide a good education, a right to earn a decent living, protect human rights (that one's not up for debate), a relatively safe society and decent infrastructure. He's failing miserably on all of them. Imagine being a young girl right now seeing how women are treated in this administration?

I don't care about borders at all. Freedom of movement is a human right in my books. Arresting people trying to make a better life is unnatural and cruel. I see you don't provide any links for your statistics. Not surprised. What three Veterans bills? Do mean executive orders? And the recent economic successes were built on Obama's policies. So you can thank him. Trump has only been in an office for a year. I see you left out the part of record stock market nose dives under Trump's watch though. He earned those all by himself. I couldn't care less about Israel because that's weird and think his generation of conservative judges is disgusting. Then there's the paet about bringing us to the brink of nuclear war. So yes, priorities.
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Re: What is wrong with women ?

Postby Jonrox » Feb 27th, 2018, 10:34 am

It's rare that I ever agree with 100% of the platform of the person I vote for. To single out one issue and say I voted for or against it with my choice is a vast oversimplification.

To say a woman who voted for Trump voted against women isn't remotely telling the whole story. She voted FOR the Republican platform, even though the candidate had some serious character flaws.

Are you suggesting she should have voted Democrat even though she's against almost everything that party stands for?

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Re: What is wrong with women ?

Postby WeatherWoman » Feb 27th, 2018, 8:25 pm

Bigjohn69 wrote:But through this last year—as it became really apparent that so many white women were against the rights of women, and that so many women who supported Trump and really made this nightmare come true are steadfast in their support of him—I started to get really angry with women. Really, really angry with these women.

http://www.macleans.ca/politics/washing ... ite-women/



This isn't a women thing it's a the political atmosphere in the US. If you grow up in a family who support the Republican party, you support the Republican party no matter who the leader is. I have beautiful, well educated female cousins who voted for Trump because they are Republican and not because they support trump.
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Re: What is wrong with women ?

Postby StraitTalk » Feb 28th, 2018, 2:12 am

Lady tehMa wrote:
See, I don't get this. "They voted against their own."

Are women not allowed to make judgments based on platforms? Do we have to vote for someone with the same chromosomal makeup? Trump is not great - that's a given. But he doesn't try to hide what he is. You know what you're getting with him. I have a number of American family members who voted based on *gasp* policies!

If I were American, I probably would have voted Trump. Yeah, he's . . . well, Trump. But Clinton was a viper. Out of two absolutely horrific choices, I could simply not see voting for Clinton.

She's female, and so am I. Similarities end there.


Donald Trump is among many things, a glorified high-functioning idiot, racist and pig. It doesn't matter where you stand politically, you simply have to be sticking your head in the sand or completely disengaged from politics to not understand that during the last US election Donald Trump was the furthest thing from a feminist. There were 17 major republican nominees and out came Trump. I do believe the question is relevant but more specifically, what is wrong with liberal-leaning women?

My answer is the same whether you're asking specifically about women, liberals etc. People aren't paying enough attention and aren't thinking for themselves. Juries out on who's fault that is.
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