Obscenity on the streets of Kelowna.

[LANDM]

The truth hurts.
Perhaps those who are offended have guilty consciences?

Guilty about what?

[camdd]

https://www.castanet.net/edition/news-story-223814-1-.htm#223814

This crap should be illegal. The City needs to enact a bylaw to block it. Maybe someone can spray over the picture and erase the obscene pictures.

I think the people of our fair region will be intelligent enough to see thru the dishonesty in the entire anti-abortion propaganda machine and efforts like this mobile unit will do far more damage to their cause than we can by blocking it. Let them destroy themselves. We know they aren’t about “saving innocent lives” but about controlling women, just like the Taliban. Don’t be fooled.

[dogspoiler]

Guilty about what?

Random inseminations ?

[Jmfva]

https://www.castanet.net/edition/news-story-223814-1-.htm#223814

This crap should be illegal. The City needs to enact a bylaw to block it. Maybe someone can spray over the picture and erase the obscene pictures.

I think the people of our fair region will be intelligent enough to see thru the dishonesty in the entire anti-abortion propaganda machine and efforts like this mobile unit will do far more damage to their cause than we can by blocking it. Let them destroy themselves. We know they aren’t about “saving innocent lives” but about controlling women, just like the Taliban. Don’t be fooled.

They are a dying breed. You see the groups of them protesting and for every 1 of them there are 100 people who believe in a woman's choice. Pre-Lifers only care about fetuses, and have to use misleading images and information to try to brainwash people, once you are born you are on your own in their books...

[camdd]

The truth hurts.
Perhaps those who are offended have guilty consciences?

Guilty about what?

So what I get from “the truth hurts” is that females who end up pregnant & not wanting to be should then be captive and have their rights removed and their bodies ruled by others? Would that be an accurate take on those opposed to abortion? Kind of like the Handmaid’s Tale.

[bcpaul]

Call it what you want, but it is still murder.

[KelownaCrackinCrew]

They should put porn on the sides of the truck, sort of a cause and effect kind of thing.

I don't see why not?
Most people in Kelowna only drive with one hand anyway.

[dcipher]

People make good choices and bad choices in life... but, it's YOUR choice to make.

Pre-lifers doing their thing. Imagine if they devoted this much time money and energy into doing something good for society. Rather than obsessing over something that is not their decision, and seeking to offend, shame, or disgust others.

It's incredible to me that people forward such obtuse arguments - your choice, etc. It's a ridiculous argument at the most basic level (let alone delving into deeper ideological ideas)- and obviously will not convince anyone. We don't allow murder and that is the fundamental starting point to most pro-life arguments. It's silly to pretend otherwise - that we can simply argue it away as freedom of choice. As somebody with a pro-choice stance, I find these arguments embarrassing - but then I very rarely see (never?) anyone forward a sound argument on the ethics of this outside of philosophy and theology papers.

[dcipher]

More likely people are offended by the lack of truth. These pre-lifer messages often contain misleading information. Scientifically, at the stage of development that a fetus is aborted, it is not a living human. It is little more than an organ.
.

Can you elaborate more on this science - or provide some links to further information? Curious as to:

1.the definition of human life you are using
2.the ideological/ethical basis by which you imbue human life with sanctity

These seem like good starting points for meaningful discussion!

[KelownaCrackinCrew]

Ben Shapiro, this man is a legend. Click that link, learn a few things.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RDmwPGrZkYs

[bcpaul]

You don't get to kill your baby just because it is convenient to you. You don't have the right to choose to take another human beings life

[Fancy]

That's what doctors are for.

[mexi cali]

You don't get to kill your baby just because it is convenient to you. You don't have the right to choose to take another human beings life

For the record; I am pro choice with caveats.

To the above; so what you're saying is that regardless of the circumstances, a woman should not ever abort. Even if the pregnancy was the result of rape?

What about if it is determined that the child will be born with a lifelong disease resulting in no quality of life or chance at a normal one?

What I am against is people like Chelsea Handler who has undergone multiple abortions because she has unprotected sex but doesn't feel any responsibility. That is taking control over your body to extremes.

[mexi cali]

For the consideration of some and the ridicule of others.

"Development begins at fertilization when a sperm fuses with an ovum to form a zygote; this cell is the beginning of a new human being."
Moore, Keith L., The Developing Human: Clinically Oriented Embryology, page 12, W.B. Saunders Co., 2003

"In that fraction of a second when the chromosomes form pairs, the sex of the new child will be determined, hereditary characteristics received from each parent will be set, and a new life will have begun."
Kaluger, G., and Kaluger, M., Human Development: The Span of Life, page 28-29, The C.V. Mosby Co., 1974

"A new individual is created when the elements of a potent sperm merge with those of a fertile ovum."
Encyclopedia Britannica, "Pregnancy," page 968, 15th Edition, Chicago 1974

"Development begins with fertilization, the process by which the male gamete, the sperm, and the femal gamete, the oocyte, unite to give rise to a zygote."
T.W. Sadler, Langman's Medical Embryology, 10th edition. Philadelphia, PA: Lippincott Williams & Wilkins, 2006. p. 11

""Although life is a continuous process, fertilization (which, incidentally, is not a 'moment') is a critical landmark because, under ordinary circumstances, a new genetically distinct human organism is formed when the chromosomes of the male and female pronuclei blend in the oocyte."
Ronan O'Rahilly and Fabiola Müller, Human Embryology and Teratology, 3rd edition. New York: Wiley-Liss, 2001. p. 8.

[Fancy]

https://www.castanet.net/edition/news-story-223814-1-.htm#223814

This crap should be illegal. The City needs to enact a bylaw to block it. Maybe someone can spray over the picture and erase the obscene pictures.

Probably will happen but the only way anything will be done is if people complain about the graphics.