Drug Addicts with their Excuses.

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Re: Drug Addicts with their Excuses.

Postby Gixxer » Nov 18th, 2018, 12:11 pm

$180 a day per person??? That information could be found in the freedom of information act correct?
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Re: Drug Addicts with their Excuses.

Postby the truth » Nov 18th, 2018, 1:14 pm

Gixxer wrote:$180 a day per person??? That information could be found in the freedom of information act correct?


easy to see why they will put anyone in the new buildings bc housing and john howard are involved with, addict or not bodies in the room brings in big money, and low cost to run when there is not staff on site 24/7 o ya they have security cameras to stop problems :200: [icon_lol2.gif] :cuss:
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Re: Drug Addicts with their Excuses.

Postby the truth » Nov 20th, 2018, 1:48 pm

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Re: Drug Addicts with their Excuses.

Postby spooker » Nov 20th, 2018, 4:33 pm

the truth wrote:junkies at it again :swear: https://globalnews.ca/news/4675692/vira ... -bathroom/


With that many needles in one location it wasn't necessarily the "scourge" I think you are intimating ... looks more like a publicity stunt ...
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Re: Drug Addicts with their Excuses.

Postby one wheel » Nov 21st, 2018, 11:43 am

Kelowna has had similar incidents where a pile of needles were dumped, just like at the McDonalds in Saskatchewan.

IMO it's nothing more than a publicity stunt ?

Who would have access to that many needles & then carry them around & but dump them off in a washroom or like in Kelowna dump them on a downtown street or near Springfield & Gordon area if not to alarm people ?

It does give our News Media the "dirty laundry" they run on.

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Re: Drug Addicts with their Excuses.

Postby ferri » Nov 21st, 2018, 11:49 am

If you watch the video they said there is a needle deposit in that restroom and they think someone broke into it and made that mess. They are going to put a more secure depository in there now.

Gross. I think of more fun things to do than play with dirty needles.
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Re: Drug Addicts with their Excuses.

Postby obtunded » Nov 23rd, 2018, 8:03 pm

The tragedy is the outrageous and pandemic public stupidity surrounding addiction, or its public health and social complexities.
Nobody thinks twice about providing public health services to those that ate, drank, smoked, or testosteroned themselves into health extrtemus, but when the problem is addiction, everyone becomes a self-righteous ignorant uneducated expert. Having been on the front lines of emergency management of the sequellae of addiction, I have certainly sworn my fair share of frustrations, but unless you truly understand and can rationalize how addiction happens, you have neither the right, nor the education to judge. I would rather help a teenage drug addict than a 55 year old tobacco and french fry addict.

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Re: Drug Addicts with their Excuses.

Postby Queen K » Jan 9th, 2019, 11:57 pm

https://www.castanet.net/news/BC/246385 ... -addict-in

Let's add gambling as an addiction. And yes, I know people who were in this man's position, with gambling.

The three security people were supposed to check his id?
Is this standard practise to check id each and every time someone walks in?

The man knew what he was doing, had a cell phone set up and made light of the casino?

Undecided here.
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Re: Drug Addicts with their Excuses.

Postby the truth » Jan 10th, 2019, 9:40 am

i know two people that filled in the form to ban themselves from the casino, never worked, every time they went in after banning themselves they were never stopped, think about it why would a casino ban gambling addicts its like a drug dealer not selling there drugs to there junkies, never going to happen
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Re: Drug Addicts with their Excuses.

Postby soupy » Jan 10th, 2019, 10:21 am

Queen K wrote:https://www.castanet.net/news/BC/246385/Casino-lets-addict-in

Let's add gambling as an addiction. And yes, I know people who were in this man's position, with gambling.

The three security people were supposed to check his id?
Is this standard practise to check id each and every time someone walks in?

The man knew what he was doing, had a cell phone set up and made light of the casino?

Undecided here.


This guy made the video to put a negative light on the Casino industry.
The only way Casinos can prevent individuals like this from entering would be to stop and ID EVERY SINGLE patron upon entrance to their establishments.
Next will every single store that sells liquor have to ID each customer and run their name through a check?
"sorry for the inconvience, but due to other individuals SELF-IMPOSED ban due to their alcohol problems the province must now check everyone's IDs to ensure we dont sell booze to someone who has no self control"
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Re: Drug Addicts with their Excuses.

Postby Grandan » Jan 10th, 2019, 5:46 pm

obtunded wrote:The tragedy is the outrageous and pandemic public stupidity surrounding addiction, or its public health and social complexities.
Nobody thinks twice about providing public health services to those that ate, drank, smoked, or testosteroned themselves into health extrtemus, but when the problem is addiction, everyone becomes a self-righteous ignorant uneducated expert. Having been on the front lines of emergency management of the sequellae of addiction, I have certainly sworn my fair share of frustrations, but unless you truly understand and can rationalize how addiction happens, you have neither the right, nor the education to judge. I would rather help a teenage drug addict than a 55 year old tobacco and french fry addict.

Spot on obtunded, you make a very valid point. If I can expand on that there is an epidemic of Obesity, Diabetes Dementia and Heart Disease. Open heart surgery, dialysis, and all the paraphernalia for diabetes costs the medical system a lot of money. Dealing with an Alzheimer patient is very expensive.
In the USA the cost of metabolic disorders represent 75% of health care costs and they all stem from a poor diet of refined carbohydrates and sugar. There is a straight line correlation between diet and metabolic disease.
Big Sugar is well aware of what they are doing and yet continues to pump the stuff out while declaring it safe. Sugar goes after the same receptors that drugs do and like all addictions those receptors become more resistant over time so more and more sugar is needed to satisfy the craving.
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Re: Drug Addicts with their Excuses.

Postby Loki2u » Jan 10th, 2019, 6:33 pm

the truth wrote:i know two people that filled in the form to ban themselves from the casino, never worked, every time they went in after banning themselves they were never stopped, think about it why would a casino ban gambling addicts its like a drug dealer not selling there drugs to there junkies, never going to happen


It does happen, and it happens quite often.

https://www.ctvnews.ca/business/ont-man ... -1.3306039

It is up to the individual to honour his/her own commitment to the self-exclusion program. It is not a perfect system however, if a person is identified by security who is on the self-exclusion program, they are escorted off the site.

Most casino's require ID to cash-out anyways-especially with larger amounts.....so they wouldn't get far anyways as per the article posted above.

But I'm sure you did your research and already knew this, right Truthy? :130:
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Re: Drug Addicts with their Excuses.

Postby bluemooncanada » Jan 10th, 2019, 6:40 pm

Why do we not have laws that require mandatory treatment in a secure facility for anyone caught and convicted for committing a criminal offense to support a drug habit? Let professionals design the program, provide sufficient funding to run it. Lots would revert when released but a few would get off their addictive drug of choice and possible become a decent member of society. Can't be worse than what is occurring these days with rampant property thefts by drug addicts. A few less dead users too - good all round!
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Re: Drug Addicts with their Excuses.

Postby tantor » Jan 10th, 2019, 7:56 pm

W105 wrote:no Jflem..people who are hard drug users and hard drinkers aren't just fine when they get older...even when they stop decades later and completely change their lifestyles..

I know plenty of ex crack smokers (who did it in their 20's) who are now in their mid 50's+ who now have COPD (just remember what exactly you were inhaling) and also have heart conditions and/or damage..

some users don't see the effects until they get older...but trust me, you play with that *bleep* even for a short period of time your body/mind/soul will have damage...

hence Gordon_as seeing it himself with his own son...

Please stop with the platitudes! I used every hard drug on the planet! Beat my addictions and over 50 just fine! I am involved with the community, have a great paying job, great kids,great health and living a rewarding life that many would envy! Do not put limitations on people you have not met just because of your experience. We are not all weaved from the same cloth no matter what the left will tell you.
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Re: Drug Addicts with their Excuses.

Postby Sharon Elliott » Jan 11th, 2019, 9:47 am

Addiction is a health issue just the same as diabetes, heart disease, or cancer. It is a health issue of the mind and body.
No one grows up as a child and plans on becoming addicted to any substance. When I hear people make heartless comments in regards to people who are struggling with substance abuse it is very sad. If you take some time and read medical papers and even utube doctors discussing this health concern you will learn that it is not a choice. What comes to my mind when I hear people judging is that do they realize when they visit a hospital or doctor the province or tax base is supporting them and paying for them to have health care. If you are healthy right now that is a blessing but as we age we eventually need more and more health care support, so remember when you are judging others that eventually you will be in need of support as you age and this support will be subsidized by the other good citizens of B. C and Canada.
Keep in mind everyone has hopes, dreams, feeling and suffers the same, but some people are more fortunate or lucky and have had more support or just blessed with an easier life.

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