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UN Global compact for migration

Postby KiloHotel » Jan 20th, 2019, 11:01 pm

So Turdeau just signed us on to this, don't let the "conspiratorial" type titles and imagery turn you off... Because this is a legitimate concern..

This erodes the sovereignty of any nation that signs onto it, and gives the UN complete control of their immigration policies, where does it end? World government?

Without sovereign nation states we have no checks and balances, a single world government gives too much power to too few people... doesn't mean Canada wont exist anymore, just means it'll be part of a world union, kind of like the european union which dictates the majority of what countries can and cannot do as part of that union.






https://nationalpost.com/news/canada/jo ... nt-sign-it

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Re: UN Global compact for migration

Postby Relentless » Jan 20th, 2019, 11:47 pm

And don't let other Party leaders fool you either....
Max is the only one that wants out and knows that signing with the UN is just crazy!
There is only one party to vote for Oct 2019 - Peoples Party of Canada - Be part of the solution, not the problem! Get Educated!

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Re: UN Global compact for migration

Postby Rider59 » Jan 21st, 2019, 8:21 pm

Unfortunately, the prevailing liberal attitude is to eventually meld into one uni race and culture.

Wonder what they have against different heritages?
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Re: UN Global compact for migration

Postby Gilchy » Jan 22nd, 2019, 4:54 am

No one has any issues with having a heritage, the issue arises when some people believe that their heritage somehow makes them superior to others.

The migration compact is a non-binding agreement, intended to signal goodwill. Canada is not granting overarching authority to a one world government.

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Re: UN Global compact for migration

Postby Ka-El » Jan 22nd, 2019, 7:12 am

Gotta get the populists riled up somehow. :smt045
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Re: UN Global compact for migration

Postby KiloHotel » Jan 22nd, 2019, 5:10 pm

Ka-El wrote:Gotta get the populists riled up somehow. :smt045


Populist definiton:
a person, especially a politician, who strives to appeal to ordinary people who feel that their concerns are disregarded by established elite groups.
"he ran as a populist on an anticorruption platform"


Again, throwing around labels as if they are a bad thing. But you've been brainwashed into thinking that word has negative connotations, when in fact it doesn't.. Just read the definition.. How is that bad in any way? It's only bad if you aren't an ordinary working class person, or part of the established elite..


Did you know that you can determine someones political orientation based upon one critical aspect of their brain / psyche being different? Leftists generally have a complete lack of the disgust response... Whereas conservatives have a strong disgust response, to me that sounds like a mental disorder. We evolved to feel disgusted by things for a reason.

Reference:
http://www.pbs.org/the-brain-with-david ... 8THhDpjZZE

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Re: UN Global compact for migration

Postby Because_They_Lie » Jan 23rd, 2019, 5:06 pm

When I was a child I attended "The Prince of Whales" Elementary school is Calgary where each morning from the age of 5 to the age of 10 the entire school would assemble in the gymnasium to sing "God Save the Queen" followed by "Oh Canada"

I knew from the very start that I was being indoctrinated, along with the rest of the children to worship The Queen.

The Queen not just of England but the entirety of the land which her family conquered and stole from other human beings.

Her face is on our money, the means by which we live or die.

The Prime Minister is her minister, not ours.

We are not sovereigns, she is.

The United Nations is the ruling body that acts on behalf of the Ruling families around the world, among a plethora of other organizations.

There are owners and rulers of this world which renders those who are not - slaves.

The one world Dictatorship, called The New World Order is not new, it is ancient - the new version in the making is only the modern version for us unacknowledged slaves.

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Re: UN Global compact for migration

Postby KiloHotel » Jan 28th, 2019, 6:37 pm

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Re: UN Global compact for migration

Postby Omnitheo » Jan 28th, 2019, 7:09 pm

KiloHotel wrote:
Ka-El wrote:Gotta get the populists riled up somehow. :smt045


Populist definiton:
a person, especially a politician, who strives to appeal to ordinary people who feel that their concerns are disregarded by established elite groups.
"he ran as a populist on an anticorruption platform"


Again, throwing around labels as if they are a bad thing. But you've been brainwashed into thinking that word has negative connotations, when in fact it doesn't.. Just read the definition.. How is that bad in any way? It's only bad if you aren't an ordinary working class person, or part of the established elite..


Did you know that you can determine someones political orientation based upon one critical aspect of their brain / psyche being different? Leftists generally have a complete lack of the disgust response... Whereas conservatives have a strong disgust response, to me that sounds like a mental disorder. We evolved to feel disgusted by things for a reason.

Reference:
http://www.pbs.org/the-brain-with-david ... 8THhDpjZZE



“Complete lack of the disgust response” yeah this isn’t at all what he said. Just like your original post, you are misrepresenting and outright lying.

And you know what? I think your lies are pretty disgusting.
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Re: UN Global compact for migration

Postby Omnitheo » Jan 28th, 2019, 7:14 pm

https://refugeesmigrants.un.org/sites/d ... ration.pdf

The non binding resolution lays out the following objectives

Objectives for Safe, Orderly and Regular Migration
(1) Collect and utilize accurate and disaggregated data as a basis for evidence-based policies
(2) Minimize the adverse drivers and structural factors that compel people to leave their country of origin
(3) Provide accurate and timely information at all stages of migration
(4) Ensure that all migrants have proof of legal identity and adequate documentation
(5) Enhance availability and flexibility of pathways for regular migration
(6) Facilitate fair and ethical recruitment and safeguard conditions that ensure decent work
(7) Address and reduce vulnerabilities in migration
(8) Save lives and establish coordinated international efforts on missing migrants
(9) Strengthen the transnational response to smuggling of migrants
(10) Prevent, combat and eradicate trafficking in persons in the context of international migration
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(11) Manage borders in an integrated, secure and coordinated manner
(12) Strengthen certainty and predictability in migration procedures for appropriate screening, assessment and referral
(13) Use migration detention only as a measure of last resort and work towards alternatives
(14) Enhance consular protection, assistance and cooperation throughout the migration cycle
(15) Provide access to basic services for migrants
(16) Empower migrants and societies to realize full inclusion and social cohesion
(17) Eliminate all forms of discrimination and promote evidence-based public discourse to shape perceptions of migration
(18) Invest in skills development and facilitate mutual recognition of skills, qualifications and competences
(19) Create conditions for migrants and diasporas to fully contribute to sustainable development in all countries
(20) Promote faster, safer and cheaper transfer of remittances and foster financial inclusion of migrants
(21) Cooperate in facilitating safe and dignified return and readmission, as well as sustainable reintegration
(22) Establish mechanisms for the portability of social security entitlements and earned benefits
(23) Strengthen international cooperation and global partnerships for safe, orderly and regular migration


I get y’all have your pundits and echo chamber YouTube playlists, but how about actually checking the facts so that you know what you’re talking about, rather than parroting people who clearly have no idea what they’re talking about?

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Re: UN Global compact for migration

Postby Ka-El » Jan 28th, 2019, 7:36 pm

KiloHotel wrote:
Ka-El wrote:Gotta get the populists riled up somehow. :smt045


Populist definiton:
a person, especially a politician, who strives to appeal to ordinary people who feel that their concerns are disregarded by established elite groups.
"he ran as a populist on an anticorruption platform"


Again, throwing around labels as if they are a bad thing. But you've been brainwashed into thinking that word has negative connotations, when in fact it doesn't.. Just read the definition.. How is that bad in any way?

Populism becomes bad, and dangerous, when so-called populist politicians reach for support based on the most vile and divisive agenda and use the term populism so as to presume they are speaking for ordinary people – instead of just the smaller group of haters they appeal to. Populism gave rise to the Third Reich and it fueled Trump’s rise to power. Appeal to the ugliest sentiments contained within a population, provide validity for divisiveness and hate, and then say you are speaking for the ordinary people. While the so-called “populists” presume to speak for “ordinary people”, they really only speak for the people in their own group while moving them to buy into the condition of self-imposed victimhood.

Here’s some more to consider ...

The Dangerous Rise of Populism

Human rights exist to protect people from government abuse and neglect. Rights limit what a state can do and impose obligations for how a state must act. Yet today a new generation of populists is turning this protection on its head. Claiming to speak for “the people,” they treat rights as an impediment to their conception of the majority will , a needless obstacle to defending the nation from perceived threats and evils. Instead of accepting rights as protecting everyone, they privilege the declared interests of the majority, encouraging people to adopt the dangerous belief that they will never themselves need to assert rights against an overreaching government claiming to act in their name.

The appeal of the populists has grown with mounting public discontent over the status quo. In the West, many people feel left behind by technological change, the global economy, and growing inequality. Horrific incidents of terrorism generate apprehension and fear. Some are uneasy with societies that have become more ethnically, religiously and racially diverse. There is an increasing sense that governments and the elite ignore public concerns.

In this cauldron of discontent, certain politicians are flourishing and even gaining power by portraying rights as protecting only the terrorist suspect or the asylum seeker at the expense of the safety, economic welfare, and cultural preferences of the presumed majority. They scapegoat refugees, immigrant communities, and minorities. Truth is a frequent casualty. Nativism, xenophobia, racism, and Islamophobia are on the rise.

This dangerous trend threatens to reverse the accomplishments of the modern human rights movement. In its early years, that movement was preoccupied with the atrocities of World War II and the repression associated with the Cold War. Having seen the evil that governments can do, states adopted a series of human rights treaties to limit and deter future abuse. Protecting these rights was understood as necessary for individuals to live in dignity. Growing respect for rights laid the foundation for freer, safer, and more prosperous societies.

More …

https://www.hrw.org/world-report/2017/c ... f-populism

The main good is that populism brings to the fore issues that large parts of the population care about, but that the political elites want to avoid discussing; think about immigration for the populist right or austerity for the populist left. Leaders from different parties can come together to keep issues that divide their respective electorates off the agenda.

The main bad is that populism is a monist and moralist ideology, which denies the existence of divisions of interests and opinions within “the people” and rejects the legitimacy of political opponents. As the populists are the vox populi, ie the voice of all the people, anyone with a different view speaks for “special interests”, ie the elite. Given that the key distinction is between the pure people and the corrupt elite, any compromise would lead to the corruption of the people and is therefore rejected. This uncompromising stand leads to a polarized political culture, in which non-populists turn into anti-populists. Populism tends to get ugly when it gets into or near power.

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfr ... ide-europe

Populism is a very real threat. Along with devaluing education, research, knowledge and intellectualism, it provides legitimacy to racism, xenophobia and hate. It divides and polarizes society pitting neighbor against neighbor. Populism only speaks to the most dull-witted haters among us; it does not speak for any of the ordinary people I know or have met.
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Re: UN Global compact for migration

Postby Mordu » Jan 28th, 2019, 7:40 pm

Omnitheo,

How many times have you posted your excerpt?

I count five times that I've posted this on this forum.

GLOBAL COMPACT FOR SAFE, ORDERLY AND REGULAR MIGRATION --PDF

http://www.un.org/pga/72/wp-content/upl ... ration.pdf

Thirty-four pages with about a grade 8 readability, yet . . ..

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