Roundabout between Future Shop and Canadian Tire

[Dash5]

Just to be clear, I do signal going in and out. But I seriously wonder why anyone, including myself, needs to signal going in. Is there any question as to where I'm going...? Are people actually watching me sitting there and wondering which way my car will turn? I'm going right because I CAN'T go left!!!

I do signal though, in case I have a rabid castanutter behind me with a camera. :127:

Likewise. I have always signalled both going in AND going out however I have just now checked several webpages (Transport Canada, BC government and ICBC) and they are all pretty clear that apparently you don't signal going in, just signal right before going out.

Transport Canada http://www.tc.gc.ca/eng/roadsafety/tp-tp14787-menu-179.htm
BC Government http://www.th.gov.bc.ca/roundabouts/index.html
ICBC http://www.icbc.com/road-safety/safer-roads/roundabouts

[keeny]

Why not use the back exit beside Winners? Hang a left on Carrington then you can either hang a left on Butt or continue to the next driveway on the left to get into the mall.

^^ this.
Unfortunately, everyone thinks they are too important to spend the extra 30 seconds to exit that parking lot PROPERLY/SAFELY, or are too stupid to figure it out (kinda like KFC/A&W parking lot)

The reason you're NOT SUPPOSED turn left out of there ( I think anyways ) is to limit 1 direction that people have to worry about traffic for that intersection. The sheer number of people who ignore the no left turn for the sake of convenience every day is astounding. Anytime I'm leaving the CT parking lot, at least 2 people do it..

While I agree that a round-about MAY work, it's already built the way it is, I don't want more pain in the ass construction in the area... It's just a matter of time before someone get's t-boned making their illegal left turn, I say let natural selection take its course..

[WhatThe]

I'm honestly starting to think it's the ones complaining about the roundabouts that can't drive. I use that butt rd one frequently and I just don't see what the problem is. I have no problems at all with people not signalling. For one it's completely redundant signaling in, what other direction are you going? Signaling out? One of three possibilities and in such a tight circle by the time our brains have processed all the info the turn is completed.
If one is using other's signal as "the sign for me to go" one is just asking for a crash. Not anticipating forseeable events which is a huge problem.

Personally I think some just don't understand the meaning of traffic flow and how to merge effectively.

Sorry if you feel slighted.

[Dash5]

I'm honestly starting to think it's the ones complaining about the roundabouts that can't drive. I use that butt rd one frequently and I just don't see what the problem is. I have no problems at all with people not signalling. For one it's completely redundant signaling in, what other direction are you going? Signaling out? One of three possibilities and in such a tight circle by the time our brains have processed all the info the turn is completed.
If one is using other's signal as "the sign for me to go" one is just asking for a crash. Not anticipating forseeable events which is a huge problem.

Personally I think some just don't understand the meaning of traffic flow and how to merge effectively.

Sorry if you feel slighted.

I tend to agree. I use this roundabout at least twice daily and have no problems with it at all. As for the signalling, I think you have a point. This roundabout is so small that by the time you pass the last turn-off prior to the one you want and then signal and anyone notices the signal and processes the info you are likely already into your turn. I think where signalling would be more important is in much larger roundabouts and especially multi-lane roundabouts.

Regardless, I will continue to use my signal going out.

[Dash5]

Unfortunately, everyone thinks they are too important to spend the extra 30 seconds to exit that parking lot PROPERLY/SAFELY, or are too stupid to figure it out (kinda like KFC/A&W parking lot)

:rate10:

Agreed. Same can be said for the Superstore entrance off Butt Rd. I see people making left turns (both into and out of the parking lot) by navigating their way around (or in some cases, over) the traffic island that is there specifically to prevent left turns. Same for coming out of the Royal Bank onto Gossett and behind the old Extra Foods (although to be honest I have no idea why that one is even there).

[mexicalidreamer]

You're not supposed to signal going in, only signal when you're leaving the roundabout.

You signal left going in then right when you want to exit.

[mexicalidreamer]

Ooops. No left signal required. Only the right signal when you want to exit. Sorry.

[Dash5]

You signal left going in then right when you want to exit.

That's what I mistakenly thought as well and it's what I've been doing for years but according to Transport Canada, BC Government and ICBC there is no requirement to signal left going into a roundabout (links provided above). As has been stated here already, what exactly would be the point of signalling going in anyhow? Pretty dumb when you think about it.

[WestbankVanessa]

Doing the posted 20 km/h through the roundabout makes it much easier for everybody to judge intentions, signal or not. Also because the roundabout is so small, I find that when I'm waiting to yield I can hardly ever see the right side/signal of any car. At least when I can see someones left signal turn off I know that they're exiting the roundabout.

[mexicalidreamer]

It's important to signal when your right turn is coming so that those who may be waiting to enter know that they can go if you're turning ahead of where they are sitting. That is how it's supposed to work but most do nothing so it's hard to tell.

Also, please please please, do not stop once you're in the circle unless you have too. I have seen many people slow or stop completely to let others ahead of them in to the circle. Dangerous and stupid.

As far as the illegal left turns coming out of Future shop, maybe one of those barriers that comes up out of the pavement like what they have going in to bus yards where when you drive over them the right way, they let you in but if you try and reverse out, they pop up and impale your tires.

I think that that would deter the dummies.

[31416ness]

It's important to signal when your right turn is coming so that those who may be waiting to enter know that they can go if you're turning ahead of where they are sitting. That is how it's supposed to work but most do nothing so it's hard to tell.

I try to signal most of the time but I also found out that in such a small roundabout you barely have time to do it. And to tell the truth I prefer to keep an eye on the people coming in who certainly have no clue how to use the roundabout. I've seen way to many people taking the very next exit just forcing their way thru.

As far as the illegal left turns coming out of Future shop, maybe one of those barriers that comes up out of the pavement like what they have going in to bus yards where when you drive over them the right way, they let you in but if you try and reverse out, they pop up and impale your tires.

they just have to extend (or make ) a median barrier so it is impossible to squeeze in or out, of course that will not be effective against the lifted truck drivers who feel entitled to do as they please.

[KAFINC]

I've always wondered, for the people the say you should signal before going into the round about.... im still wondering, which other way do you think your going to turn?

[GordonH]

Tracffic roundabouts are good idea to speed up traffic, but every time I use the one on Burtch/Byrns. I'm always shaking my head & :dyinglaughing: on the way people use it.

[mystica]

You're not supposed to signal going in, only signal when you're leaving the roundabout.

NOT CORRECT!!

Instructions for negotiating a roundabout are as follows...

Remember vehicles ON the roundabout have right of way


Use Your Indicators: Signal your intended route as you approach the roundabout. The proper use of turn indicators is critical in a roundabout. The indicator tells other drivers what you intend to do, which means they know whether they have to yield to you or whether you'll be exiting the roundabout before you cross their path (in which case they can proceed forward).

If you are turning right (taking the first exit from the roundabout)

Approach in the right lane (if there are multiple lanes)
Signal right as you approach the roundabout
Continue to signal right as you pass through and leave the roundabout.
If you are going straight (second exit)

Approach in either lane (assuming there are two lanes)
Signal left, (indicate you are going around the roundabout past the first turn.
Signal right after you have passed the first exit and before you reach the second exit
Continue your right signal as you leave the roundabout.
If you are turning left (third exit of a 4 way intersection, going 270 degrees around the roundabout):

Approach in the left lane (assuming there are two lanes)
Signal left, (indicating you are going around the roundabout past the first and second turn.
Continue signaling left as you go around.
Activate your right signal after you pass the exit before the one you want.
Continue to signal right as you exit.

Looking at the above, I realize that this information might very well be too difficult for many of the "My road - My way" drivers! If they can read!!

But that is the correct instructions to streamline the traffic through a roundabout.

[dodgerdodge]

I've always wondered, for the people the say you should signal before going into the round about.... im still wondering, which other way do you think your going to turn?

Thats not the point, it shows you are continuing around the roundabout so warns cars waiting NOT to pull out until you have passed. If the BC rules of the road state that indicating is not necessary unless turning out of the roundabout then by not indicating you would effectively show that you are going to continue round of course BUT the problem is so many drivers fail to use their indicators it is often impossible to tell what they might be doing. I would certainly NOT assume someone is continuing round because they haven't indicated however i would assume someone is continuing round if they were indicating.
It all comes back to basic driving skills, letting other road users know what you are going to do.