Kelowna General Hospital

[kmavm]

Ultraviolet, I am shocked! Nay, outraged! How dare you blame the poor, downtrodden nurses! Everyone knows they are underappreciated, underpaid and overworked!

Well Neb, I'll tell you that one of those overpaid nurses released my Mother from the ER, who was near death, and would possibly have died if we hadn't got her back into the hospital via an ambulance ride.
By the way, the overpaid nurse should also get the ambulance bill for releasing a sick patient from the hospital without the Doctors permission, and get fired and a fine too boot!

Underappreciated you say, well if they did their job, they possibly would be appreciated, but since they don't, they reap what they sow.

Underpaid you say, well quite possibly if they deducted $32.00 per hour from each one of them.

Overworked you say, well maybe thats why so many of them are nearly 275 pounds and can barely move!

I can only hope that it gets better in that mess of a Hospital!
I also hope that others don't go through what we have gone through with some of the worst medical staff in the history of the world.

Oh yeah, and to the young nurses who are drinking Coke and chatting in the hallways instead of responding to patients who are in need of assistance, remember, you to, may fall victim to other workers when you have to visit this Hospital one day!

I believe what goes around, comes around.

The nurses are not the ones that make the decisions to release the patients....the doctor makes those orders....

I am sorry you had a terrible experience, but the ER is full of non emergencies.......drug addicts...parents who race their children into the ER with a fever instead of giving tylenol...have they ever heard of teething?

There are not enough beds and not enough doctors and they do the best they can...
I honestly don't think working in that enviroment that they get paid enough!

The most serious are seen first...the rest, may it not feel fair, must wait...

And I mean no disrepect what so ever...and not saying this applies to you...BUT

why in gods name do we not let our elderly loved ones pass on...why do we keep them alive at all cost without any quality of life....we need to learn to let go........no matter how hard this is to do.....many of the ER backup is because of this issue....especially here in Kelowna....I know many won't agree but enough is enough...it isn't a perfect system .......but I wouldn't want to be a nurse and work in that hell.........you couldn't pay me enough......

You should be thankful that we don't live in the US where they will let you die in the waiting room because you can't afford treatment.......it can always get worse!

[strwbrrydvl]

I am sorry you had a terrible experience, but the ER is full of non emergencies.......drug addicts...parents who race their children into the ER with a fever instead of giving tylenol...have they ever heard of teething?

That sarcastic remark really irks me.
I would like for you to my post from the last page viewtopic.php?f=33&t=19905&start=45#p726895
The triage nurse rolled her eyes at me when I told her I was bringing in my child for just a fever. The doctor said "Don't you think she's just teething?" No, there was something wrong with baby, I knew it and I wasn't taken very seriously at first until I made a point of saying that I have an older child too and was not a paranoid first time parent.
Parent's instincts are usually right on, they have experience with their own child.

[kmavm]

I am sorry you had a terrible experience, but the ER is full of non emergencies.......drug addicts...parents who race their children into the ER with a fever instead of giving tylenol...have they ever heard of teething?

That sarcastic remark really irks me.
I would like for you to my post from the last page viewtopic.php?f=33&t=19905&start=45#p726895
Parent's instincts are usually right on, they have experience with their own child.

It can irk you .....I have two children and we have had fevers.....and I'm not saying every parent who has a concern with their child is over reacting, but many do ,especially with the first, over react, BUT a child who is teething does get a slight fever and is irritable and cranky and the best course of action is to give the child some tylenol.....and assess the situation...

Racing into the emergency department and not giving the child tylenol because they want to show the doctor how high the temperature is (which happens often!) is my issue......

If a fever is present that you can not allivate with medication then of course seeking medical attention is warranted....

[Bestside]

The nurses are not the ones that make the decisions to release the patients....the doctor makes those orders....

I am sorry you had a terrible experience, but the ER is full of non emergencies.......drug addicts...parents who race their children into the ER with a fever instead of giving tylenol...have they ever heard of teething?

There are not enough beds and not enough doctors and they do the best they can...
I honestly don't think working in that enviroment that they get paid enough!

The most serious are seen first...the rest, may it not feel fair, must wait...

And I mean no disrepect what so ever...and not saying this applies to you...BUT

why in gods name do we not let our elderly loved ones pass on...why do we keep them alive at all cost without any quality of life....we need to learn to let go........no matter how hard this is to do.....many of the ER backup is because of this issue....especially here in Kelowna....I know many won't agree but enough is enough...it isn't a perfect system .......but I wouldn't want to be a nurse and work in that hell.........you couldn't pay me enough......

You should be thankful that we don't live in the US where they will let you die in the waiting room because you can't afford treatment.......it can always get worse!

Let the old folk pass on... huh?

Are you God or the Virgin Mary? I hope you are not a nurse!

[kmavm]

The nurses are not the ones that make the decisions to release the patients....the doctor makes those orders....

I am sorry you had a terrible experience, but the ER is full of non emergencies.......drug addicts...parents who race their children into the ER with a fever instead of giving tylenol...have they ever heard of teething?

There are not enough beds and not enough doctors and they do the best they can...
I honestly don't think working in that enviroment that they get paid enough!

The most serious are seen first...the rest, may it not feel fair, must wait...

And I mean no disrepect what so ever...and not saying this applies to you...BUT

why in gods name do we not let our elderly loved ones pass on...why do we keep them alive at all cost without any quality of life....we need to learn to let go........no matter how hard this is to do.....many of the ER backup is because of this issue....especially here in Kelowna....I know many won't agree but enough is enough...it isn't a perfect system .......but I wouldn't want to be a nurse and work in that hell.........you couldn't pay me enough......

You should be thankful that we don't live in the US where they will let you die in the waiting room because you can't afford treatment.......it can always get worse!

Let the old folk pass on... huh?

Are you God or the Virgin Mary? I hope you are not a nurse!

god forbid we would let them pass away as god intended......lets keep them alive.....on machines ...what kind of quality of life is that? Do you think we should all live forever?
Sorry to point this out but we all have an expiration date.........

And what kind of remark is "am I god or the vigin mary?"

seriously lmao!

[strwbrrydvl]

god forbid we would let them pass away as god intended......lets keep them alive.....on machines ...what kind of quality of life is that? Do you think we should all live forever?
Sorry to point this out but we all have an expiration date.........

And what kind of remark is "am I god or the vigin mary?"

seriously lol

Agreed, it is extremely difficult but people just need to let go. Machines keeping somebody alive is not life.

God or virgin mary? LOL Wouldn't keeping somebody alive be more of an act of playing "god" opposed to letting nature takes its course?

[Bestside]

try keeping the comments in context... this was the OP:

How has your experiences been with the emergency room and parking at the hospital... how are the doctors and if you have children ... do you trust the hospital we have?

So how does the following apply to that? The following is a different mission.

why in gods name do we not let our elderly loved ones pass on...why do we keep them alive at all cost without any quality of life....we need to learn to let go........no matter how hard this is to do.....many of the ER backup is because of this issue....especially here in Kelowna....I know many won't agree but enough is enough...it isn't a perfect system .......but I wouldn't want to be a nurse and work in that hell.........you couldn't pay me enough......

[kmavm]

try keeping the comments in context... this was the OP:

How has your experiences been with the emergency room and parking at the hospital... how are the doctors and if you have children ... do you trust the hospital we have?

So how does the following apply to that? The following is a different mission.

why in gods name do we not let our elderly loved ones pass on...why do we keep them alive at all cost without any quality of life....we need to learn to let go........no matter how hard this is to do.....many of the ER backup is because of this issue....especially here in Kelowna....I know many won't agree but enough is enough...it isn't a perfect system .......but I wouldn't want to be a nurse and work in that hell.........you couldn't pay me enough......

The response was in regards to utraviolets sick 80 year old mother so it's applicable...which I quoted....
Regardless - who are you the keep on track police...How does your post have any bearing on what is being said or adding to the conversation for that matter....it's a forum for conversations and opinions...
GET OVER YOURSELF - oh and p.s. have a nice day!

[Cruz]

I know the feeling, my mom was here for 8 hours with no food, water, or meds. She is 80 with diabetes and has had a few myocardium infarctions. After i showed up i asked a doctor if he was aware of my moms condition. He then took her in a room and said her ecg looked fine and released her. When i got home i found out not one person in 8 hours took her vital signs??? Two days later she was back at the doctor and had pneumonia. Had someone taken these vital signs she would have had the medication she needed, sooner. She is still trying to fight the pneumonia with medication.

[Treblehook]

When reading this thread it makes me wonder if people are aware of the Interior Health website where clients/patients can report their experience, be it either good or bad as relates to Kelowna General Hospital. Bitching and complaining on a forum like this is unlikely to have any impact whatsoever IMHO. The website is: https://www.patientcarequalityreviewboa ... laint.html‎

[southernfrau]

I was in recently. I was in dire pain, doubled over with it. I was shaking, snow white in the face and ready to pass out. I had many patients waiting there asking me if I was cold and offering to get me a blanket. I said no I was in pain. Like so many others in their with the flu they thought I had the flu in admitting even though my doc had phoned down to say I was on my way in, and I sat for over 2 hours waiting to be seen.

Finally when I got in after the docs seeing a multitude of flu patients, they found I needed morphine for the pain and an IV, CT scan. No beds for me and I had to go sit up in a chair again. People flowed in and out of the little rooms with kids after being told they have the flu take them home. The triage should be pain and bleeding first, I said I was in pain at admitting. Duh....I was just about passing out trying to sit up. I finally stood in the hallway and kept sliding up and down the wall in anguish. I was totally disgusted after they did my CT scan to be told here go home, take more morphine at home and come back for another scan in the morning. They did find something on the scan and I was told what it was before being sent home. Then to make it worse, I had the second scan done the next morning after having to have someone drive me in as I was drugged up. After it was done, guess what.....yup go to ER, re-register as a new admittance and wait for your results again. 4 hours later I was told the same thing as the night before. Now I had to phone my family doc for an apt, as they sent a report over to him for further treatment. He in turn saw me that same day, and then got me in to see a specialist.
When I finally saw the specialist he said next time phone me and I will meet you at the hospital. I am now awaiting surgery...and still having off and on pain.

My own family doc said things have to change in the ER, sending people in for further scans and making them go back to ER the next day for results only ties up the ER more. Send the results to the family doc asap, or to the specialist asap.

I was totally disgusted and have yet to fill out my form they sent me asking how it was....and how it could improve. Boy are they gong to get an earful.

Yes, treat with Tylenol first.. I tried for myself and it was a no go with this issue.

[gordon_as]

He then took her in a room and said her ecg looked fine and released her. When i got home i found out not one person in 8 hours took her vital signs???.

Although not a medical professional , I do infact spend 37.5 hours per week in a Hospital Emergency Department and I suspect , based on what I see every day , that you were misinformed.

With regards to UV's post , during my weekly rotation I work in close proximity to the care staff , Doctors , RN's , LPN's , Care aide's and students . I see and hear them doing their jobs all day. I personally have my favorites based on how they treat me , and how they care for the patients. Many are superstars as far as I can see. There are some that I personally don't care for , HOWEVER , I can honestly say that I have never witnessed the type of patient neglect that you have described.

I don't work at KGH , but I have a hard time imagining that it is so very different from the ER that I work at. Basic policies and procedures would be the same for both.

[gordon_as]

Wow. I just realized that this thread started and died 4 years ago.

[southy]

That's ok Gordon ... It's on a machine ... Everything's fine.

[mexi cali]

Sorry Gordon but if you think that KGH couldn't be much different from wherever you work, you would be wrong.

The stories of incredibly long waiting times are accurate in my experience and I with my child who has a chronic illness have been in the ER there countless times.

Neglect is strong but truthfully, that is what it will appear to be to anyone who has sat in pain or discomfort for hours on end.

It isn't good enough anymore to say that they are working at capacity and there are only so many bodies to help out.

It is a broken machine and without the proper care and attention being directed at the problem, it will remain broken.

It is undignified the way patients are treated there with having them lined up in the hallways and doctors and nurses giving diagnosis to people in ear shot of everyone else who is there for whatever reason.

Sadly though, nothing is going to change anytime soon so this is what we all have to rely on.