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Fancy wrote:Don't you agree that people who take advantage of children should be held accountable?


People who take advantage of people should be held accountable!
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But the conversation is about crimes against children.
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I expect Wednesday there will be more information available.
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There is an exception in the law which he is entitled to be considered for. It does not have to be for writing an article.
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Again he is charged with a crime which you wish to take the words from the CC literally and it just does not work that way!

He is innocent at this point, please try to keep that in mind and while you are at it review the premise of the sting operation he was caught up in...

There were no children involved. He was talking to someone pretending to be a mother .....

So you can start to fill in, using your imagination, what the conversation was all about.... and include what your opinion would be of this "mother" as well.....
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the prior incident from 2012 is interesting.... could be that the charges were dropped but from the CSO record it appears something was going on...
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He is 'presumed' innocent, but with enough evidence gathered against him that the Crown sees fit to try him in hopes of getting a conviction.
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WeatherWoman wrote:But the conversation is about crimes against children.


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So in other words
Still innocent!
Until such time as a "court" decides otherwise!
And that is not the
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No. The term used is 'presumed innocent'. If they wanted to say 'innocent until proven guilty', they'd say exactly that---but they don't.

We can all presume a LOT of things, yet not all will be true. Just because it's presumed does not make it so.
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Just because it's presumed does not make it so.


I agree..

"Presumed" is a courtesy , for lack of better words , until the accused receives their "fair" trial.
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People arrested and kept in custody awaiting trial are also presumed innocent. If they were deemed innocent, they wouldn't be held. Legalese, a whole other language.
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BelieveNothing wrote:This whole entire "online sting operations" to catch pedophiles is just another distraction.

These "individuals" being arrested and sentenced to 20 plus years - while the real pedophiles are untouchable, the ones making the arrests are the real pedophiles - that's why they are hunting these small time perpetrators- making it appear that they are doing something about the problem, just like the catholic church.

20 plus years for hanging out on the internet and tempting children. What kind of kid is going to enjoy the masturbation video? no kid that I know of... so how would any conversation continue at all? kids are not stupid and they do know what is right or wrong, if they don't - is that the perps fault or the parents or communities problem, maybe its a world problem.

Maybe the queen and prince phillip have ok'ed pedophilia, because they have not been arrested even after all the abductions, rape and murder of the kids they diddled with all over the frikken planet.

But the small guy in west Kelowna.... yeah, lets linch him.

Wake the heck up people - these evils are orchestrated.... and just as with everything else.... does ANYTHING EVER change? NO

Are there no more wars, no more drugs, no more sick twisted *bleep*? NO because these real perpetrators will never allow these sick twisted things to end, because it is their life blood.

believe it or don't.

They have given you all something to gossip about.. your neighbor.

Hope you all feel good about yourselves

The real perpetrators rule the world!!! until you realize this, YOU are THE PROBLEM.

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Randall T wrote:People arrested and kept in custody awaiting trial are also presumed innocent. If they were deemed innocent, they wouldn't be held. Legalese, a whole other language.

No I don't believe that's at all why they are held and looking at the definition of the word it is pretty darn clear that it is not the intention of the law or legalese either.

"Presumed: suppose that something is the case on the basis of probability."

So in this context "presumed innocent" could be translated to "probably innocent".

I don't know if he is or he isn't guilty and unless you were there I can say with certainty that you don't know either. Sadly because of your fear and disgust for this loathsome charge, many of you continue to conclude his guilt despite not knowing, despite statistics, despite his right to be presumed innocent.
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