51807

IOC bans Russia

Sports, camping, hunting, fishing.

IOC bans Russia

Postby ferri » Dec 5th, 2017, 10:43 am

“When someone is nasty or treats you poorly, don't take it personally. It says nothing about you, but a lot about them.” ― Michael Josephson
User avatar
ferri
Forum Administrator
 
Posts: 43256
Likes: 13633 posts
Liked in: 8344 posts
Joined: May 11th, 2005, 2:21 pm

Re: IOC bans Russia

Postby alanjh595 » Dec 5th, 2017, 10:53 am

Indeed, that is VERY interesting. I wonder, "Why"?
User avatar
alanjh595
Grand Pooh-bah
 
Posts: 2440
Likes: 912 posts
Liked in: 1626 posts
Joined: Oct 20th, 2017, 4:18 pm

Re: IOC bans Russia

Postby Even Steven » Dec 5th, 2017, 10:56 am

So much for Olympics being a politics-free zone.
Even Steven
Grand Pooh-bah
 
Posts: 2410
Likes: 152 posts
Liked in: 1696 posts
Joined: Mar 24th, 2015, 6:20 pm

Re: IOC bans Russia

Postby ferri » Dec 5th, 2017, 11:07 am

State sponsored doping is apparently the reason. Imagine that!
“When someone is nasty or treats you poorly, don't take it personally. It says nothing about you, but a lot about them.” ― Michael Josephson

Bsuds likes this post.
User avatar
ferri
Forum Administrator
 
Posts: 43256
Likes: 13633 posts
Liked in: 8344 posts
Joined: May 11th, 2005, 2:21 pm

Re: IOC bans Russia

Postby Even Steven » Dec 5th, 2017, 11:13 am

alanjh595 wrote:Indeed, that is VERY interesting. I wonder, "Why"?


There's been an ongoing scandal going over allegations that Russian govt helped athletes win by facilitating doping and avoiding detection. The IOC stripped a number of medals from the Russian team won at Sochi Olympics already. So, I guess the final accord is banning the entire team in South Korea.

Sad when politics get into sports like this.

2 people like this post.
Even Steven
Grand Pooh-bah
 
Posts: 2410
Likes: 152 posts
Liked in: 1696 posts
Joined: Mar 24th, 2015, 6:20 pm

Re: IOC bans Russia

Postby alanjh595 » Dec 5th, 2017, 11:16 am

I thought the Olympics was to bring all countries together and show their best?
User avatar
alanjh595
Grand Pooh-bah
 
Posts: 2440
Likes: 912 posts
Liked in: 1626 posts
Joined: Oct 20th, 2017, 4:18 pm

Re: IOC bans Russia

Postby Sparki55 » Dec 5th, 2017, 1:25 pm

alanjh595 wrote:I thought the Olympics was to bring all countries together and show their best?


It's not their best when Russia's athletes were falsely awarded medals because they had an unfair advantage with government assistance (taking unsanctioned performance enhancers). If one cannot follow the rules and make the games fun then they have no place at them. :130:
Sparki55
Fledgling
 
Posts: 344
Likes: 357 posts
Liked in: 278 posts
Joined: Feb 24th, 2013, 1:38 pm

Re: IOC bans Russia

Postby GordonH » Dec 5th, 2017, 1:33 pm

Even Steven wrote:So much for Olympics being a politics-free zone.


IOC not political. :laugh: you are joking right.

Bsuds likes this post.
User avatar
GordonH
Buddha of the Board
 
Posts: 19134
Likes: 2026 posts
Liked in: 6404 posts
Joined: Oct 4th, 2008, 6:21 pm
Location: Second star to the right and straight on 'til morning

Re: IOC bans Russia

Postby ferri » Dec 5th, 2017, 1:38 pm

Now Russia's flag is banned too. wow
“When someone is nasty or treats you poorly, don't take it personally. It says nothing about you, but a lot about them.” ― Michael Josephson
User avatar
ferri
Forum Administrator
 
Posts: 43256
Likes: 13633 posts
Liked in: 8344 posts
Joined: May 11th, 2005, 2:21 pm

Re: IOC bans Russia

Postby alanjh595 » Dec 5th, 2017, 2:59 pm

Sparki55 wrote:
alanjh595 wrote:I thought the Olympics was to bring all countries together and show their best?


It's not their best when Russia's athletes were falsely awarded medals because they had an unfair advantage with government assistance (taking unsanctioned performance enhancers). If one cannot follow the rules and make the games fun then they have no place at them. :130:


I agree, performance enhancing drugs have NO place in the Olympics. This is supposed to be about sportsmanship, on a level playing ground, with NO cheating, just NATURAL ability.
After all there were no drugs back when the Olympics began in Greece in the 8th century. They didn't even have Spandex back then. A pole for the Pole Vault did not contain fiberglass or carbon fiber materials.
Society has taken the Olympics into commercialism and away from athletes and their abilities to compete equally based upon TRUE athletics.
User avatar
alanjh595
Grand Pooh-bah
 
Posts: 2440
Likes: 912 posts
Liked in: 1626 posts
Joined: Oct 20th, 2017, 4:18 pm

Re: IOC bans Russia

Postby the truth » Dec 5th, 2017, 3:19 pm

putin is going to lose his poop over this ,he is a huge sports fan, for once i agree with the ioc :200:
"The further a society drifts from truth the more it will hate those who speak it." -George Orwell
User avatar
the truth
Walks on Forum Water
 
Posts: 13379
Likes: 8169 posts
Liked in: 4849 posts
Joined: May 16th, 2007, 8:24 pm
Location: kelowna

Re: IOC bans Russia

Postby Even Steven » Dec 5th, 2017, 3:46 pm

Sparki55 wrote:It's not their best when Russia's athletes were falsely awarded medals because they had an unfair advantage with government assistance (taking unsanctioned performance enhancers). If one cannot follow the rules and make the games fun then they have no place at them. :130:


The problem with that is that accusations never been proven. So far only accusations were voiced with no real proof or tests or trials. Unless I missed it. IOC, therefore, makes their decisions on unproven allegations and more than likely is influenced by political pressure from other countries. That's where I see the problem - where politics spill into sports.
Even Steven
Grand Pooh-bah
 
Posts: 2410
Likes: 152 posts
Liked in: 1696 posts
Joined: Mar 24th, 2015, 6:20 pm

Re: IOC bans Russia

Postby GordonH » Dec 5th, 2017, 4:03 pm

^^^ So what did Russian have to hide by swapping urine samples for if it's not dopping.
http://www.cbc.ca/m/sports/olympics/win ... -1.4431598
User avatar
GordonH
Buddha of the Board
 
Posts: 19134
Likes: 2026 posts
Liked in: 6404 posts
Joined: Oct 4th, 2008, 6:21 pm
Location: Second star to the right and straight on 'til morning

Re: IOC bans Russia

Postby Sparki55 » Dec 5th, 2017, 4:55 pm

Even Steven wrote:The problem with that is that accusations never been proven. So far only accusations were voiced with no real proof or tests or trials. Unless I missed it. IOC, therefore, makes their decisions on unproven allegations and more than likely is influenced by political pressure from other countries. That's where I see the problem - where politics spill into sports.


We aren't dealing with he said she said. No one in the IOC has anything but scrutiny to gain from this. For the topic of doping to even come up there is more than enough suspicion and therefore it happened. This isn't a case of innocent until proven guilty, governments have huge power when it comes to hiding information.
Sparki55
Fledgling
 
Posts: 344
Likes: 357 posts
Liked in: 278 posts
Joined: Feb 24th, 2013, 1:38 pm

Re: IOC bans Russia

Postby Even Steven » Dec 5th, 2017, 5:12 pm

Sparki55 wrote:This isn't a case of innocent until proven guilty


See, that's kinda my point. If no evidence needs to be presented and only accusations need to be made for something to happen, it's too easy to start something up.
Even Steven
Grand Pooh-bah
 
Posts: 2410
Likes: 152 posts
Liked in: 1696 posts
Joined: Mar 24th, 2015, 6:20 pm

Next

Return to Sports / Great Outdoors

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 1 guest