Bus driver cuts off firetruck?

spiritualteachers · Post by **spiritualteachers** » Jun 16th, 2016, 2:49 pm

We were a bit shocked after seeing this. At 2:19pm today on the intersection of Gordon and Bernard. We were at the intersection waiting to turn left onto Gordon and a fire truck came racing up with his lights and siren on on the opposite side.. He was coming towards us the other way....all vehicles stopped of course on the green for him to go....and the number 10 bus beside us decides to just pull on through the intersection basically cutting off the fire truck who was signaling left!

I expect to see this kind of thing ONCE in awhile from people but not a bus driver...maybe time to do some retraining there.

gman313 · Post by **gman313** » Jun 16th, 2016, 3:42 pm

spiritualteachers wrote:We were a bit shocked after seeing this. At 2:19pm today on the intersection of Gordon and Bernard. We were at the intersection waiting to turn left onto Gordon and a fire truck came racing up with his lights and siren on on the opposite side.. He was coming towards us the other way....all vehicles stopped of course on the green for him to go....and the number 10 bus beside us decides to just pull on through the intersection basically cutting off the fire truck who was signaling left!

I expect to see this kind of thing ONCE in awhile from people but not a bus driver...maybe time to do some retraining there.

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looking4one · Post by **looking4one** » Jun 16th, 2016, 3:59 pm

1st. How can anyone determine that a firetruck, with all of those flashing lights and sirens, identify a single left hand turn signal?
2nd. How can you be absolutely sure that the bus was not waved on and proceeded to do so at the request of the firetruck driver or the navigator?
3rd. How many years of driving experience can you personally prove and what height level is your car windshield as compared to the bus windshield?
4th. Just because "that's the way you saw it" doesn't mean that you were right in all of you assumptions.
5th. Did you report it to the transit company/police/icbc? Why not?

Fancy · Post by **Fancy** » Jun 16th, 2016, 4:02 pm

One would think a bus driver would be more aware of their surroundings considering they would probably encounter more emergency vehicles than the average 9 to 5 person.

Fancy · Post by **Fancy** » Jun 16th, 2016, 4:04 pm

looking4one wrote:1st. How can anyone determine that a firetruck, with all of those flashing lights and sirens, identify a single left hand turn signal?

Not sure what that means.

gman313 · Post by **gman313** » Jun 16th, 2016, 4:05 pm

Fancy wrote:One would think a bus driver would be more aware of their surroundings considering they would probably encounter more emergency vehicles than the average 9 to 5 person.

One would think the OP doesn't have a clue and only saw what they saw from their vantage point. If there was indeed an issue the driver of the firetruck will report it and the incident can be reviewed between bc transit and the KFD - life goes on

looking4one · Post by **looking4one** » Jun 16th, 2016, 4:21 pm

looking4one wrote:1st. How can anyone determine that a firetruck, with all of those flashing lights and sirens, identify a single left hand turn signal?

Fancy wrote:Not sure what that means.

Let's see. A large red truck is rapidly approaching you at a high rate of speed, all the bright red and white lights flashing.....can you see if there is a single yellow flashing light on that truck indicating a left hand turn? What do you see first and as being the most predominate feature?
Do you look around and see if you have a way "out of the way"? Do you look backwards and to either side to see if you can see a traffic accident? Do you try to decide if you are in any imminent danger? NO! of course not, all you see is the left hand turn signal on the firetruck..

MAPearce · Post by **MAPearce** » Jun 16th, 2016, 4:36 pm

Not sure what that means.

I'll help you Fancy...

there are so many :cuss:

lights flashing on an emergency vehicle in service that you JUST . CAN'T . TELL. which way they want to go .........

It's a very valid point when you consider that even professional driver don't which way to maneuver to yield to said vehicle when the emergency lights are flashing and they are coming up behind you ....

fall · Post by **fall** » Jun 16th, 2016, 4:44 pm

Just because you managed to obtain your class two, class one license does not make you a professional driver by any means. I think when you hear sirens, see flashing lights you pull over to the side of the road and stop don't you?

fall · Post by **fall** » Jun 16th, 2016, 4:45 pm

Fancy wrote:Not sure what that means.

It is a common problem with her for me as well.

looking4one · Post by **looking4one** » Jun 16th, 2016, 5:29 pm

fall wrote:Just because you managed to obtain your class two, class one license does not make you a professional driver by any means. I think when you hear sirens, see flashing lights you pull over to the side of the road and stop don't you?

No, that is not entirely true. You are required to NOT impede the travel of an emergency vehicle.

think
Know the rules — emergency vehicles displaying flashing
lights and sirens always have the right-of-way. All traffic moving
in both directions must stop. (Exception: if you are on a divided
highway and the emergency vehicle is approaching on the
other side of the median, you may not need to stop. Make sure
that it would be impossible for the emergency vehicle to move
onto your side of the highway.)
Clear a path — don’t block the path of emergency vehicles.
Usually the best thing to do is pull over to the right and stop (or
to the left if you’re driving in the left lane of a divided highway
or on a one-way street). Do not stop in an intersection. Think
well ahead, and have a plan in mind to create a path for the
emergency vehicle.

http://www.icbc.com/driver-licensing/Do ... hicle%2522
Page 93.

LTD · Post by **LTD** » Jun 16th, 2016, 6:01 pm

well busses do have that little yield sign on the back that gives them the power of god in their eyes

fall · Post by **fall** » Jun 16th, 2016, 6:10 pm

Sounds like the bus impeded the fire truck by not stopping like everyone else in this alleged incident.

looking4one · Post by **looking4one** » Jun 16th, 2016, 6:18 pm

fall wrote:Sounds like the bus impeded the fire truck by not stopping like everyone else in this alleged incident.

"sounds like" is not fact. It is just your opinon based upon your personal vendetta against all transit drivers.

Donald G · Post by **Donald G** » Jun 16th, 2016, 6:20 pm

Both the law and common sense dictate that an emergency vehicle displaying emergency equipment has the right of way over all other traffic using the roadway. Common sense says that everyone else do whatever is necessary to enable the emergency vehicle to continue on its way.

If the bus was able to clear the intersection before the emergency vehicle got there I do not see the problem. If the emergency vehicle had to alter its course because the bus drove into its path that is different.

The bylaw that says a bus has the right of way over other vehicles, including the right to stop in the lane and engage passengers, DOES not take precedence over the Provincial Motor Vehicle act in regard to emergency vehicles.

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