Signal goes RED after Arrow @ Springfield & Leckie?
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- Fledgling
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Signal goes RED after Arrow @ Springfield & Leckie?
Can anyone explain why at the intersection of Springfield turning left onto Leckie the turn Arrow goes to RED and doesn't stay switch to simply solid green. The other 4 lanes going either way are green. So many times i'm sitting there at that Red light to turn left and all 4 lanes are green and there is no one coming!!!!
I know a few on the highway are like that but I understand because of speed. Glenmore and Summit. That light goes green after the turn arrow. Who the hell can I complain to?
I know a few on the highway are like that but I understand because of speed. Glenmore and Summit. That light goes green after the turn arrow. Who the hell can I complain to?
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- Lord of the Board
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Re: Signal goes RED after Arrow @ Springfield & Leckie?
Well it is like that so you can only turn left on the advanced green. I am guessing there has probably been enough accidents there that they felt the need to put that type of advanced green in verses the other one.
You could probably call the city to complain, or learn some patience.
You could probably call the city to complain, or learn some patience.
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Re: Signal goes RED after Arrow @ Springfield & Leckie?
I suspect because of the speed people drive on Springfield and also run the red.
I find it frustrating as well so I will go a different route rather than sit at the light.
I find it frustrating as well so I will go a different route rather than sit at the light.
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Re: Signal goes RED after Arrow @ Springfield & Leckie?
If you look at the intersection of Glenmore Drive & Summit/High they are almost identical to Springfield. Both are 60 km/h and both are 4 lanes. Not to mention Leckie is actually 2 lanes! Summit is only 1 lane!
When its RED @ Springfield and you want to turn left you can see traffic coming way around the corner. Same as Glenmore Drive turning left onto Summit.
When its RED @ Springfield and you want to turn left you can see traffic coming way around the corner. Same as Glenmore Drive turning left onto Summit.
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Re: Signal goes RED after Arrow @ Springfield & Leckie?
kelowna_proud wrote:If you look at the intersection of Glenmore Drive & Summit/High they are almost identical to Springfield. Both are 60 km/h and both are 4 lanes. Not to mention Leckie is actually 2 lanes! Summit is only 1 lane!
When its RED @ Springfield and you want to turn left you can see traffic coming way around the corner. Same as Glenmore Drive turning left onto Summit.
As suggested contact the CoK for explanation, if you want to know the exact reason.
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Re: Signal goes RED after Arrow @ Springfield & Leckie?
GordonH wrote: if you want to know the exact reason.
Good one !!
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Re: Signal goes RED after Arrow @ Springfield & Leckie?
Lights in this configuration are common.
In the old days, they were rare and usually only used at high speed intersections (Think Reid's corner). But in the last 5-10 years they've been using this configuration at many "high crash" intersections.
I've been honked at by the vehicle behind me on multiple occasions for not turning left against the red. Tho it hasn't happened for a few years as I think Kelownians are getting used to the signal pattern.
In the old days, they were rare and usually only used at high speed intersections (Think Reid's corner). But in the last 5-10 years they've been using this configuration at many "high crash" intersections.
I've been honked at by the vehicle behind me on multiple occasions for not turning left against the red. Tho it hasn't happened for a few years as I think Kelownians are getting used to the signal pattern.
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Re: Signal goes RED after Arrow @ Springfield & Leckie?
I've gotta admit, it's annoying at 2AM.
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Re: Signal goes RED after Arrow @ Springfield & Leckie?
Woodenhead wrote:I've gotta admit, it's annoying at 2AM.
Not if you don't make a habit of being stranded there.
Only once for me, I'll do my best to not ever turn there again.
There are better routes that keep one moving.
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intent of traffic light operation over-all.
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Re: Signal goes RED after Arrow @ Springfield & Leckie?
The City does not make these changes to frustrate you personally ... most of the drivers on this forum and good and thoughtful behind the wheel and have the deepest ICBC discount based on a collision-free record ...
Unfortunately the whole reason for insurance is for everyone else out there who don't drive as well as we do ... the data shows that the intersection of Leckie & Springfield is an issue with people trying to squeak by on the yellow too often when the light wasn't stopping the left turn lane ...
As much as the CoK and MoTI frustrate me ... I have to hope that overall there is a reason for it ... as citizens we have to ask for those reasons rather than just complain ... that's the responsibility we need to understand
Unfortunately the whole reason for insurance is for everyone else out there who don't drive as well as we do ... the data shows that the intersection of Leckie & Springfield is an issue with people trying to squeak by on the yellow too often when the light wasn't stopping the left turn lane ...
As much as the CoK and MoTI frustrate me ... I have to hope that overall there is a reason for it ... as citizens we have to ask for those reasons rather than just complain ... that's the responsibility we need to understand
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Re: Signal goes RED after Arrow @ Springfield & Leckie?
kelowna_proud wrote:Who the hell can I complain to?
You can complain to me. I'll listen and commiserate with you. I feel your pain brother, I feel it. All kidding aside, there are some crazy lights in this area. Kinda why I don't bother trying to get anywhere quickly, speeding doesn't get you anywhere other than to a longer wait at the next light.
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Re: Signal goes RED after Arrow @ Springfield & Leckie?
dirtybiker wrote:Woodenhead wrote:I've gotta admit, it's annoying at 2AM.
Not if you don't make a habit of being stranded there.
nah. Just go through it, never anyone around.
It's actually a very fast light; honestly, every light I hit (if they are even red to begin with) going home at night starts changing the instant I roll up to it. I'm just not big on the behaviour during the day for lights like the one in question when traffic is heavy. It's wrong, IMHO. Luckily, I can't say I ever have a problem there, on the one or two occasions a month when I hit it before midnight.
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