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Re: Commercial Drivers Cell Phone Use

Postby lightspeed » Aug 14th, 2017, 11:38 am

Eires wrote:I'm not sure if this info is accurate as my class 1 CVOR is clean without any infractions, but my first employer said that the fine to a Class 1 driver using a cell phone while driving can be $1100, and the fine to his employer can be in the $10k - $11k range. Now this was back in 2010 and in another province.

A class 1 driver with a phone to his/her ear is usually a flip-flop wearing pseudo-professional driver. Any company I drove for sent messages through the onboard communication system and they understood it would be answered when the rig was parked. If a professional driver (Class 1 Class 3 etc) causes death due to distracted driving, they'll lose a whole lot more than a "contract".


You nailed it.

Flip flops on, driving while wearing their hi viz vest and green hard hat.
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Re: Commercial Drivers Cell Phone Use

Postby jimmy4321 » Aug 14th, 2017, 11:47 am

Eires wrote:I'm not sure if this info is accurate as my class 1 CVOR is clean without any infractions, but my first employer said that the fine to a Class 1 driver using a cell phone while driving can be $1100, and the fine to his employer can be in the $10k - $11k range. Now this was back in 2010 and in another province.

A class 1 driver with a phone to his/her ear is usually a flip-flop wearing pseudo-professional driver. Any company I drove for sent messages through the onboard communication system and they understood it would be answered when the rig was parked. If a professional driver (Class 1 Class 3 etc) causes death due to distracted driving, they'll lose a whole lot more than a "contract".


I don't doubt any of this.
I'm actually shocked at the fines in place not so much as the severity of it which is deserved but the fact that i still see a lot and i mean a lot of drivers with an ear on the phone.

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Re: Commercial Drivers Cell Phone Use

Postby dirtybiker » Aug 14th, 2017, 4:58 pm

I like driving around with my closed hand resting on my cheek, my elbow on the sill.
That way when busy-bodies freak at me for being on the phone, I can wave with my EMPTY hand.
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Re: Commercial Drivers Cell Phone Use

Postby Dizzy1 » Aug 14th, 2017, 9:04 pm

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Dizzy 1 wrote:

Some clients will understand, some won't - its just the way it is. Just like when you go into a store or restaurant, if you don't receive prompt service, chances are you may not visit there again. Each industry is different, each business is different, each client is different. Times have changed, when I started out, clients were more than fine if it took you a few days to get back to them. Then voicemail and emails came along, clients were expecting you to get back to them the same day. Then texting came along, now they expected contact within hours - its just the way it is.


In other words you do not have to do it while you are driving, you have time to reply at a stop. Stopping within hours is totally doable and probably not a bad idea anyway.

In other words - I was demonstrating the evolution of modern communications and the expectations in todays business world.
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Re: Commercial Drivers Cell Phone Use

Postby Smurf » Aug 15th, 2017, 6:02 am

True but you also proved my point, it can be done.

I'm just sorry that this couldn't be brought in and enforced for all drivers.

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I'm not sure if this info is accurate as my class 1 CVOR is clean without any infractions, but my first employer said that the fine to a Class 1 driver using a cell phone while driving can be $1100, and the fine to his employer can be in the $10k - $11k range. Now this was back in 2010 and in another province.
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Re: Commercial Drivers Cell Phone Use

Postby Dizzy1 » Aug 15th, 2017, 1:47 pm

Smurf wrote:True but you also proved my point, it can be done.

I'm just sorry that this couldn't be brought in and enforced for all drivers.


Sorry - I didn't "prove" anything - you simply misinterpreted my post - which was my fault, I should have written it better.
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Re: Commercial Drivers Cell Phone Use

Postby Gixxer » Aug 16th, 2017, 6:53 am

Sometime commercial drivers are on the phone with dispatch or shipper/receiver getting directions. Not exactly easy to pull a super-b over on the side of the road, and one wrong turn down the wrong street could be costly.

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Re: Commercial Drivers Cell Phone Use

Postby Smurf » Aug 16th, 2017, 9:22 am

Sorry Dizzy 1, I guess we'll just have to agree to disagree. I think you hit the nail on the head. In my own mind I think you possibly even realize that. I believe any customer worth having will wait a couple of hours if you are giving them good service and have explained why you do it. Anyone with any common sense at all would realize the problem with answering a phone and driving.

As I said earlier I think all vehicles should have some type of signal jammer so phones can't be used while driving. That could be a problem when you have two people in the car and the other one wants to use the phone. It might also be a problem with a GPS . No matter what something has to be done to prevent cell phone usage by drivers. It is getting worse, not better, and it is becoming a main cause of accidents and death on our roads. The larger the vehicle, the bigger the problem, I don't care who the driver is. I certainly don't call a commercial driver who uses a cell phone while driving a professional driver. Not by a long shot.
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Re: Commercial Drivers Cell Phone Use

Postby jimmy4321 » Aug 16th, 2017, 9:50 am

At least the Okanagan i notice people will actually take time to find the person they want for a service but god help you if you don't answer that phone or it goes to the next guy immediately Lol
You can say that customer isn't worth having but if that were the case I'd go broke.
The extent of my conversation on my hands free is "I'm driving, your number will be on my call display can i call you back when i pull over, thanks" mostly cause i have to write stuff down or have retain detailed info and i can do neither while driving for obvious reasons.

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Re: Commercial Drivers Cell Phone Use

Postby Gixxer » Aug 16th, 2017, 7:51 pm

Smurf wrote:I don't care who the driver is. I certainly don't call a commercial driver who uses a cell phone while driving a professional driver. Not by a long shot.


That old "professional driver" zinger every commercial driver hears. :up:

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Re: Commercial Drivers Cell Phone Use

Postby dirtybiker » Aug 16th, 2017, 10:03 pm

jimmy4321 wrote:At least the Okanagan i notice people will actually take time to find the person they want for a service but god help you if you don't answer that phone or it goes to the next guy immediately Lol
You can say that customer isn't worth having but if that were the case I'd go broke.


Nailed it ! :smt045

The majority of calls of this nature are a yes or a no,

If yes, it is a call back for details (when stopped.)

No...self explanatory.
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Re: Commercial Drivers Cell Phone Use

Postby Smurf » Aug 17th, 2017, 5:41 am

Do commercial drivers not call themselves professionals?
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Re: Commercial Drivers Cell Phone Use

Postby Gixxer » Aug 17th, 2017, 11:58 am

Smurf wrote:Do commercial drivers not call themselves professionals?


Nope. Only smug a-aholes and law enforcement call commercial drivers professional drivers when they want to insult or talk down to them.

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Re: Commercial Drivers Cell Phone Use

Postby lightspeed » Aug 17th, 2017, 4:40 pm

Gixxer wrote:
Smurf wrote:I don't care who the driver is. I certainly don't call a commercial driver who uses a cell phone while driving a professional driver. Not by a long shot.


That old "professional driver" zinger every commercial driver hears. :up:


They have a point though.

There are people with a commercial license and there are professional drivers.

Big difference.
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Re: Commercial Drivers Cell Phone Use

Postby Dizzy1 » Aug 17th, 2017, 7:38 pm

Smurf wrote:Sorry Dizzy 1, I guess we'll just have to agree to disagree.

Nothing wrong with that - disagree on one thing, agree on another.
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