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Centre Dividers, Pros And Cons

Postby dirtybiker » Oct 9th, 2017, 10:37 am

New dividers being placed between Stickle and 48 in Vernon.
https://www.castanet.net/news/Vernon/20 ... -installed

Since I have observed that, when there are 'no-posts' added to a roadway on one,
or both sides.
There is nowhere for snow, water, or debris to blow to.
Snow; creating a vortex of swirling, white out conditions.
Rain; pooling and swirling spray.
Both causing visibility issues, and,
Debris; greater risk of tire punctures.

Furthermore add the gradient increase/decrease, the curve, how extremely rough the overpass is
and the slippery conditions of the overpass.

I see more issues, in this particular stretch, than there previously were.

Yes, little to no head-on, but, many more pin-ball, pile up's.

Reducing visibility over a very rough, often slippery section of road is, to me,
not the best idea. (in this particular instance.)

Monies could be spent better elsewhere.(much larger topic)
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Re: Centre Dividers, Pros And Cons

Postby Even Steven » Oct 10th, 2017, 8:52 am

Never had any problems driving on roads with center dividers.

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Re: Centre Dividers, Pros And Cons

Postby Fancy » Oct 10th, 2017, 9:14 am

dirtybiker wrote:Yes, little to no head-on, but, many more pin-ball, pile up's.

Haven't read about more pile up's on 97 after the last centre dividers were put in.

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Re: Centre Dividers, Pros And Cons

Postby jimmy4321 » Oct 10th, 2017, 9:56 am

I'm NOT a fan of them but we got to accommodate *bleep* :cuss: drivers.

Just got back from running through Kelowna twice I needed to change lanes, the moment my signal light goes on, :cuss: drivers close the gap.
I'm pretty chill guy behind the wheel lol but man WTH!! Lol
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Re: Centre Dividers, Pros And Cons

Postby Fancy » Oct 10th, 2017, 10:08 am

At least the dividers prevent (for the most part) those crossing into oncoming traffic. I see drifters going in the same direction too many times it's almost becoming commonplace.

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Re: Centre Dividers, Pros And Cons

Postby spooker » Oct 10th, 2017, 10:56 am

Drifting across the centreline ... can we say "distracted driving"?

The dividers do a good job of fixing the symptom ... but we've still got the disease ...
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Re: Centre Dividers, Pros And Cons

Postby Fancy » Oct 10th, 2017, 10:57 am

The disease will never be fixed unfortunately.
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Re: Centre Dividers, Pros And Cons

Postby Dizzy1 » Oct 12th, 2017, 10:28 pm

Waste of money. Money can be better spent on proper road maintenance and effective road markings that actually last more than 3 weeks.
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Re: Centre Dividers, Pros And Cons

Postby GordonH » Oct 13th, 2017, 12:20 pm

Dizzy1 wrote:Waste of money. Money can be better spent on proper road maintenance and effective road markings that actually last more than 3 weeks.


Depends on how much a human life is really worth, once gone will never come back.

Since it prevents head on crashes which usually results in at least 1 death or more, I have no problem with dividers.
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Re: Centre Dividers, Pros And Cons

Postby spooker » Oct 13th, 2017, 12:25 pm

GordonH wrote:
Dizzy1 wrote:Waste of money. Money can be better spent on proper road maintenance and effective road markings that actually last more than 3 weeks.


Depends on how much a human life is really worth, once gone will never come back.


So far the examples we have are $500 - $1500 ... would like to see how the new Ontario proposal goes with $50k, might wake some people up to actually pay attention to their driving ...
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Re: Centre Dividers, Pros And Cons

Postby Dizzy1 » Oct 13th, 2017, 9:38 pm

GordonH wrote:
Depends on how much a human life is really worth, once gone will never come back.

Since it prevents head on crashes which usually results in at least 1 death or more, I have no problem with dividers.

I get that, but proper road design and maintenance benefits all drivers, not just a handful.
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Re: Centre Dividers, Pros And Cons

Postby GordonH » Oct 13th, 2017, 11:01 pm

GordonH wrote:Depends on how much a human life is really worth, once gone will never come back.

Since it prevents head on crashes which usually results in at least 1 death or more, I have no problem with dividers.

Dizzy1 wrote:I get that, but proper road design and maintenance benefits all drivers, not just a handful.


Since that has not happened up to this point, I don't expect it ever will.
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Re: Centre Dividers, Pros And Cons

Postby dirtybiker » Oct 14th, 2017, 8:35 am

Since lane drifting or as I call them "Creeps" was brought up, I have also
noticed this is much more common after the installation
of the centre no posts.

Seems people are scared of the wall, and/or wary of all the debris.

I find no real issue with them personally, I just think that in this particular
instance, over a very rough, often slippery, varied grade roadway, it just
may produce more harm, than good.

If they run them right across Stickle to prevent left turners, then the trade-off is good.

Thanks for all the input thus far.

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Re: Centre Dividers, Pros And Cons

Postby BGrigg07 » Nov 6th, 2017, 8:27 am

Even Steven wrote:Never had any problems driving on roads with center dividers.


Really? Try driving the curve on Benvoulin heading north towards Springfield in the rain. Or the last curve before the turnoff for UBCO. Large pools of water form and cause visibility issues when cars drive through them spraying water onto the vehicles next to them, not to mention hydro planing with the resultant loss of steering control.

Centre dividers don't just mean the ones you see on highways!
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