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Re: Look up in the sky

Postby goatboy » Dec 1st, 2012, 11:18 am



Couple things I noticed:

1: Every video shows the "chemtrail" coming out directly behind the engines. How is this accomplished without evaporating the chemical before it even disperses? Why woudln't the nozzles be placed on the wings to cover a larger area?
2: The amount of liquid that would be required to produce the amount of "chemtrail" you allege the planes are spraying would be huge. Given the relative size of the planes, I don't see how they could spray for as long as you allege.
3: And here's my biggest things that doesn't make sense.....Why not just do it at night when no one could see what you're doing?
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Re: Look up in the sky

Postby averagejoe » Dec 1st, 2012, 12:36 pm



Couple things I noticed:

1: Every video shows the "chemtrail" coming out directly behind the engines. How is this accomplished without evaporating the chemical before it even disperses? Why woudln't the nozzles be placed on the wings to cover a larger area? Probably using the power of the engines to disperse the trails better.

2: The amount of liquid that would be required to produce the amount of "chemtrail" you allege the planes are spraying would be huge. Given the relative size of the planes, I don't see how they could spray for as long as you allege. They probably only use chemicals and no liquids. Like a dusting. That why the don't evaporate. No liquids.

3: And here's my biggest things that doesn't make sense.....Why not just do it at night when no one could see what you're doing?[/quote] [color=#FF0000]Watch a full moon when the skies are clear. You will see lots of trails in the sky.[/color]
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Re: Look up in the sky

Postby averagejoe » Dec 1st, 2012, 12:39 pm

goatboy wrote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=78rKNoR4T0w&sns=em

Couple things I noticed:

1: Every video shows the "chemtrail" coming out directly behind the engines. How is this accomplished without evaporating the chemical before it even disperses? Why woudln't the nozzles be placed on the wings to cover a larger area?
2: The amount of liquid that would be required to produce the amount of "chemtrail" you allege the planes are spraying would be huge. Given the relative size of the planes, I don't see how they could spray for as long as you allege.
3: And here's my biggest things that doesn't make sense.....Why not just do it at night when no one could see what you're doing?


Glad you enjoyed the video. Some good questions!
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Re: Look up in the sky

Postby goatboy » Dec 1st, 2012, 4:05 pm

averagejoe wrote:
Couple things I noticed:

1: Every video shows the "chemtrail" coming out directly behind the engines. How is this accomplished without evaporating the chemical before it even disperses? Why woudln't the nozzles be placed on the wings to cover a larger area? Probably using the power of the engines to disperse the trails better.

2: The amount of liquid that would be required to produce the amount of "chemtrail" you allege the planes are spraying would be huge. Given the relative size of the planes, I don't see how they could spray for as long as you allege. They probably only use chemicals and no liquids. Like a dusting. That why the don't evaporate. No liquids.

3: And here's my biggest things that doesn't make sense.....Why not just do it at night when no one could see what you're doing?
[color=#FF0000]Watch a full moon when the skies are clear. You will see lots of trails in the sky.[/color][/quote]

1 & 2: If it is only chemicals and no liquids, then why does it produce "Chemtrails"? Those clouds would only be produced with the presence of a liquid.

3: I didn't say they DIDN'T spray at night, I said why don't they ONLY spray at night (even go as far as to say when there's no full moon). It would be easy enough for them to keep this completely hidden if they wanted to, instead you contend they choose a method that leaves a huge indication in the sky.

Another question. To conduct this institutional spraying of all the Western world, how many airplanes would be required and why would the people involved with these airplanes choose to poison where they and their families live?
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Re: Look up in the sky

Postby kompili » Dec 1st, 2012, 5:13 pm

goatboy wrote:
3: I didn't say they DIDN'T spray at night, I said why don't they ONLY spray at night (even go as far as to say when there's no full moon). It would be easy enough for them to keep this completely hidden if they wanted to, instead you contend they choose a method that leaves a huge indication in the sky.

Another question. To conduct this institutional spraying of all the Western world, how many airplanes would be required and why would the people involved with these airplanes choose to poison where they and their families live?


That's how they like to do things, do it out in the open, make up a good lie, and most people will believe them.

Yes it is a big project, could only be funded and pulled off by the military, they have planes everywhere there is spraying.

People will do anything for money, specially if it is disguised as helping to save the earth
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Re: Look up in the sky

Postby goatboy » Dec 1st, 2012, 5:35 pm

kompili wrote:

That's how they like to do things, do it out in the open, make up a good lie, and most people will believe them.

Not a good enough reason. Too convenient. You wouldn't believe it if it were the other way around

Yes it is a big project, could only be funded and pulled off by the military, they have planes everywhere there is spraying.

How many planes?

People will do anything for money, specially if it is disguised as helping to save the earth

Don't buy that for a minute. These people wouldn't be stupid and would see claims like yours on the internet. Too many people would be involved to keep this quiet.
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Re: Look up in the sky

Postby kompili » Dec 1st, 2012, 7:07 pm

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That's how they work with subliminal messages, put it out in the open where no one can see it. We Have Been Conditioned To See Only What They Want Us To See.

As many planes as our money can buy

Would you give up a fat pay cheque, just to do good, I don't think so, if you had kids to feed and a house to pay for
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Re: Look up in the sky

Postby Dizzy1 » Dec 1st, 2012, 7:22 pm


It is a great video, of pilots filming day to day routines from their office, nothing more nothing less.

1 - How do we know the aircraft being filmed from is the Fed Ex bird?
2 - Descending or climbing to another altitude is a normal procedure and can have many reasons, turbulence, descent, more effcient altitude for the engines and yes possible conflicting traffic. Often, when one files a flight plan with a requested flight level, you may not get it for whatever reason (such as other traffic) and they will advise you to request a descent/climb to your requested flight level at a latter time.
3 - As pointed out in the other thread, there is no such thing as "civilian or commercial airspace".
4 - A transponder has nothing to do with not being able to see an aircraft of any radar, a transponder enhances the information on the radar giving the controller the type or aircraft and flight number or registration.
5 - "The control tower had no idea the tankers existed and no radar system, blah, blah, blah." Commercial aircraft (including cargo carriers such as Fed Ex) are required to have a TCAS (Traffic Collision Alert System), this is more or less a radar onboard the aircraft displaying other aircraft to a certain distance of their own, it also displays their altitude and speed and if they are climbing or descending and is designed to alert the flight crew of a possible collision. If these aircraft were really invisible as the video poster claims, one would think that the pilot filming would have filmed the aircraft not showing up on their TCAS.
6 - As for the passenger filming a supposed "tanker", people need to fly more or even look up some of the awesome air to air videos on Youtube and you'll see tons of videos like that of everyday airliners/frieghters/biz jets and yes, military aircraft flying next to you for miles on end. Take a flight to Europe from the east coast of the US and you'll be amazed at how many planes you'll see just like the one on your posted video.
7 - I'm assuming the video of the contrails shot during sunset/sunrise is supposedly the "spraying of blood" as the video title suggests? Really now? It doesn't take much education to understand the effects of sunset/sunrise on water vapour.
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Re: Look up in the sky

Postby Dizzy1 » Dec 1st, 2012, 7:26 pm

kompili wrote:That's how they like to do things, do it out in the open, make up a good lie, and most people will believe them.

Yes it is a big project, could only be funded and pulled off by the military, they have planes everywhere there is spraying.

People will do anything for money, specially if it is disguised as helping to save the earth

Yet you post pictures of civilian airliners as the ones on page 5, I've asked you why you posted those and requested an explanation from you on why you belive those are "chemtrail tankers" ... please explain.
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Re: Look up in the sky

Postby Dizzy1 » Dec 1st, 2012, 7:32 pm

Just a couple of great contrail videos just to show you how busy the skies can be ...

In this one, you can see quite a few to the left of the aircraft as well as the one coming from the front and passing underneath the aircraft filming.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wlOQIUBs ... =endscreen

Typical North Atlantic crosssing ...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RTR8bWRAbSU

Another typical NA crossing, this time from the flight deck ...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=169Y7Z10Lus
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Re: Look up in the sky

Postby kompili » Dec 1st, 2012, 9:45 pm

Dizzy1 wrote:Yet you post pictures of civilian airliners as the ones on page 5, I've asked you why you posted those and requested an explanation from you on why you belive those are "chemtrail tankers" ... please explain.


They use military planes plus civilian planes from Evergreen Air Facility that could be possibly tied up with the CIA

Below is a picture from the Evergreen Air Facility, what I believe they use for chemical spraying

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Plans for a $15 million expansion of the Evergreen Air Center were deferred by debt and a $78 million lawsuit in 1996. The suit concerned junk bond notes held by Cargill Inc. With a number of creditors and rumors of hard-dealing "vultures," Chapter 11 may have seemed a natural solution. However, against the advice of his lawyers, Del Smith refused this course of action, aware that very few airlines had ever flown out of bankruptcy. Evergreen lost $10.3 million in 1996 but achieved a $21.2 million profit in 1997 following a new financing arrangement. Revenues at the airline rose 34.9 percent to $255.5 million.
This was about the time chemtrails started.
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Re: Look up in the sky

Postby Roadster » Dec 1st, 2012, 10:25 pm

You have an answer for everything anyone can ask Komp. Almost like you work there, you know the whole system, as if you wrote the regs. You sure yer not making all of this up?
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Re: Look up in the sky

Postby goatboy » Dec 1st, 2012, 11:04 pm

kompili wrote:Image



That plane is this plane: It's registration number is on the top of its wing and at the back of the fusealage. The Chinese writing on the wing also matches whats on the fuselage:

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Re: Look up in the sky

Postby GenesisGT » Dec 1st, 2012, 11:57 pm


Dizzy1 wrote:It is a great video, of pilots filming day to day routines from their office, nothing more nothing less.

1 - How do we know the aircraft being filmed from is the Fed Ex bird?
2 - Descending or climbing to another altitude is a normal procedure and can have many reasons, turbulence, descent, more effcient altitude for the engines and yes possible conflicting traffic. Often, when one files a flight plan with a requested flight level, you may not get it for whatever reason (such as other traffic) and they will advise you to request a descent/climb to your requested flight level at a latter time.
3 - As pointed out in the other thread, there is no such thing as "civilian or commercial airspace".
4 - A transponder has nothing to do with not being able to see an aircraft of any radar, a transponder enhances the information on the radar giving the controller the type or aircraft and flight number or registration.
5 - "The control tower had no idea the tankers existed and no radar system, blah, blah, blah." Commercial aircraft (including cargo carriers such as Fed Ex) are required to have a TCAS (Traffic Collision Alert System), this is more or less a radar onboard the aircraft displaying other aircraft to a certain distance of their own, it also displays their altitude and speed and if they are climbing or descending and is designed to alert the flight crew of a possible collision. If these aircraft were really invisible as the video poster claims, one would think that the pilot filming would have filmed the aircraft not showing up on their TCAS.
6 - As for the passenger filming a supposed "tanker", people need to fly more or even look up some of the awesome air to air videos on Youtube and you'll see tons of videos like that of everyday airliners/frieghters/biz jets and yes, military aircraft flying next to you for miles on end. Take a flight to Europe from the east coast of the US and you'll be amazed at how many planes you'll see just like the one on your posted video.
7 - I'm assuming the video of the contrails shot during sunset/sunrise is supposedly the "spraying of blood" as the video title suggests? Really now? It doesn't take much education to understand the effects of sunset/sunrise on water vapour.


This video has scenes from another video posted awhile ago as a chemtrail video.

The video was made using MS Flight Simulator, only this time they were smart enough not to show the cockpit panel, but they used the same FedEx flight......
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Re: Look up in the sky

Postby sanfish » Dec 2nd, 2012, 12:12 am

Dizzy1 wrote:It is a great video, of pilots filming day to day routines from their office, nothing more nothing less.

1 - How do we know the aircraft being filmed from is the Fed Ex bird?
2 - Descending or climbing to another altitude is a normal procedure and can have many reasons, turbulence, descent, more effcient altitude for the engines and yes possible conflicting traffic. Often, when one files a flight plan with a requested flight level, you may not get it for whatever reason (such as other traffic) and they will advise you to request a descent/climb to your requested flight level at a latter time.
3 - As pointed out in the other thread, there is no such thing as "civilian or commercial airspace".
4 - A transponder has nothing to do with not being able to see an aircraft of any radar, a transponder enhances the information on the radar giving the controller the type or aircraft and flight number or registration.
5 - "The control tower had no idea the tankers existed and no radar system, blah, blah, blah." Commercial aircraft (including cargo carriers such as Fed Ex) are required to have a TCAS (Traffic Collision Alert System), this is more or less a radar onboard the aircraft displaying other aircraft to a certain distance of their own, it also displays their altitude and speed and if they are climbing or descending and is designed to alert the flight crew of a possible collision. If these aircraft were really invisible as the video poster claims, one would think that the pilot filming would have filmed the aircraft not showing up on their TCAS.
6 - As for the passenger filming a supposed "tanker", people need to fly more or even look up some of the awesome air to air videos on Youtube and you'll see tons of videos like that of everyday airliners/frieghters/biz jets and yes, military aircraft flying next to you for miles on end. Take a flight to Europe from the east coast of the US and you'll be amazed at how many planes you'll see just like the one on your posted video.
7 - I'm assuming the video of the contrails shot during sunset/sunrise is supposedly the "spraying of blood" as the video title suggests? Really now? It doesn't take much education to understand the effects of sunset/sunrise on water vapour.


1. Would it matter?
2. Your point?
3. No but there is civilian and military airspace
4. Ok well they still didnt have transponders but instead appparently were carrying something making it quite hard for ATC to see them
5. Yes and they saw the planes which is why they were asking to change altitudes(and at one point changed altitudes anyways)
6.You are correct! Except the majority dont have clouds of "persistent CONtrails" so there goes the cleaner burning fuel theory
7. What? Only Hollywood/MSM is allowed to package everything up in a shiny little package?
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