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Re: False Flag

Postby peaceseeker » Oct 2nd, 2017, 3:05 pm

maryjane48 wrote:i have always wondered about pear harbour . i also wonder when exactly did the americans have a nuke ? know one realy knows .

the fact the americans invested in nazi germany and also the uk invested in germanies camps raises some interesting questions

Fomenting war can be very profitable, especially for those not doing the fighting/killing.
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Re: False Flag

Postby peaceseeker » Oct 3rd, 2017, 8:22 am

False flag in Vegas shooting?
https://jonrappoport.wordpress.com/2017 ... -shooting/
Oct 3, 2017
by Jon Rappoport

False flags always target the psychological state of mind of the public. Mind control is the goal.

To boil it down, a false flag is an operation staged to blame someone for a crime, someone who didn’t commit the crime.

Why? Because by blaming that person or group, and by convincing many others to blame that person or group, you achieve an important objective.

Simplistic over-exaggerated version: “Last night, a homeless man was found shot dead in an alley. The gun was found next to his body. The Mayor’s fingerprints were on the [planted] gun. The Mayor was arrested at his office. The election nears. The Mayor’s opponent now appears to have a clear path to victory…”

Less simplistic version: “…the worst mass shooting in US history. Stephen Paddock, 64, has been named as the Las Vegas shooter. He is dead. He killed 58 people at a concert and wounded 515 others. In the Congress, calls are rising for new gun control laws…”

But, as it turns out, the evidence suggests there were multiple shooters in the Mandalay Hotel. Paddock may or may not have been one of them. The overall operation was designed to invoke widespread horror and fear, and usher in new restrictions on gun ownership…

The other possible shooters in the hotel would have been professionals, tasked with killing as many people as possible at the country music concert.

Gun control would not be the only agenda in this false flag.

Heavily militarized police all over this country would be another agenda.

Putting a significant dent in the economy would be another—if attendance at public events and in crowded public places diminishes.

Such a reduction in attendance could even affect political forums and other gatherings where free speech and the right to assemble are vital. (We’ve already seen significant disruptions of these events.)

Invoking fear and passivity in the population is another basic agenda. This leads to the attitude: “Let the authorities handle everything.”

We could see new, more outrageous violations of Constitutional search and seizure principles, all in the name of “the need for security.”

As in the aftermath of Sandy Hook, there may be new calls for psychiatric screening of the population, including young children, in order to “spot criminals before they commit crimes.” This is sheer madness, because no so-called mental disorder is based on any defining lab test, and many of the prescribed drugs (SSRI antidepressants) push people over the edge into committing violence. —More violence, more calls for psychiatric screening, more drugs, more violence: an escalating scenario and repeating cycle, leading to tighter Control from above.

When was the last time you saw a major false flag exposed by the mainstream press, and then admitted to by the actual perpetrators, who then explained their true objectives?

Never.

False flags are, over the long term, essential to maintaining and expanding the status quo: power is collected and increased at the top, and then exerted downward.

Note: All prior analyses I’ve made about the duration of the shooting, and numbers of people killed and injured, are subject to change. Why? Because as yet, we have no accurate reports on how many of the 515 people injured were actually shot versus trampled or hurt in some other fashion. Also, police reports that are emerging differ on the duration of the shooting. The NY Times is talking about roughly 7 minutes. Newsweek suggests the duration is longer.

Nevertheless, the background of the purported shooter, Stephen Paddock, gives no indication of any competence with auto weapons, gives no indication he could have dealt with the problems and challenges of using such a weapon—and on top of that, his state of mind at the time, as an non-professional, would have been unstable, to say the least.

Any reasonable law-enforcement group investigating this mass shooting would certainly keep its options open, regarding other perpetrators. But that is not what is happening here. The books are closed on this case. There is no going back.

The desired result has been achieved. One shooter, mass killings. End of story. Objective achieved.

That rush to judgment and “closure” is also a prime feature of the false flag. It has to be.
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Re: False Flag

Postby Ranger66 » Oct 4th, 2017, 6:40 am

A little slow in calling this out as a false flag operation, must be the lack of facts. Don't worry a small army of delusional armchair critics are hard at work fabricating facts and altering images to feed the need for attention.
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Re: False Flag

Postby peaceseeker » Oct 4th, 2017, 8:16 am

Ranger66 wrote:A little slow in calling this out as a false flag operation, must be the lack of facts. Don't worry a small army of delusional armchair critics are hard at work fabricating facts and altering images to feed the need for attention.

Just keep believing everything you're told, Ranger66...never question anything.
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Re: False Flag

Postby peaceseeker » Oct 4th, 2017, 8:23 am

Multiple shooters in Vegas: the standard progression of events in a staged attack
https://jonrappoport.wordpress.com/2017 ... d-attacks/
by Jon Rappoport
October 4, 2017

—In case anyone doesn’t get the point, multiple shooters in Las Vegas would imply much planning and coordination for a given political purpose. Not a crazy lone act of a crazy man. The whole scene would change in an instant. Everything the public knows would be wrong.

In a minute, I’ll get to an expert report about the now-famous taxi cab video, which contains much audio of shots fired at the Mandalay Hotel. The driver was parked at the hotel when the shooting began and stayed there for several minutes. But first, I want to describe the standard progression in false flags.

In several articles (archive here), I’ve established enough probability of multiple shooters, in the Vegas-concert attack, to warrant a serious and honest investigation by law-enforcement.

But of course, that’s not happening.

There is a standard sequence that is usually followed in these events.

As soon as the attacks occur, reports begin coming in from the press. There is conflicting information. There were multiple shooters—no, there was just one shooter. The purported Sandy Hook shooter, Adam Lanza? His father was killed in New Jersey—no, his mother was killed in Connecticut.

These discrepancies and bizarre contradictions are pruned away and discarded by the press as quickly as possible, as the official line is brought front and center. The contradictions are buried as if they never existed.

There was a lone shooter. Period. In the majority of cases, he is dead. Shot by police, or he committed suicide. So he can’t speak.

Even when the shooter is arrested, we almost never hear from him again. He never makes a complete public statement. If there is a trial, he doesn’t testify.

You can bet your bottom dollar James Holmes, the purported Colorado theater shooter, would have had some very interesting comments to make, if he could have spoken freely. But no, he was hustled away to a psych ward, and that was that.

At law enforcement press conferences, the party line is emphasized: there was just one shooter, we know who he is, and he is dead (or in custody). Of course, the police or FBI spokespeople claim they are still investigating.

They throw that bone to the press and public: they’re on the case doing their jobs. In Vegas, we are told the police are carrying out a thorough inquiry, in order to understand Stephen Braddock’s motive for killing and maiming concert goers. No stone will be left unturned.

Now the press turns to the victim stories, with a few hero stories thrown in for good measure. Human interest. At the same time, we hear calls for unity and coming together. No one is sure what that means, but it doesn’t matter. It sounds right.

At this point, political leaders launch their agendas. There is usually a demand for new gun control legislation, for example. The leaders know, of course, that the weapon the supposed lone shooter used was already illegal and banned; or if not, criminals and terrorists are able to secure those weapons, regardless of any law. Only private law-abiding citizens, who see guns as a form of self-defense, would be stripped of that protection.

Until the last year or so of attacks in the US, there was a fictitious grieving period announced by the press. Candlelight vigils were played up. There were many photos of flowers and messages placed at the site of the crime. Now, apparently, the formal grieving is thought to be less important. The press needs a new story about another subject. The pace is faster.

That’s the basic sequence. There are additions here and there, but that’s the basic pattern.

One addition: If the government and the press see there may be a problem convincing the public that the official narrative is factual, the networks will send their national TV news anchors to the scene of the crime, as the story breaks, to cement the party line. The prestige of these anchors keeps viewers in their usual state of light trance and acceptance.

Now, here is a report about the taxi-cab video taken by a driver at the Mandalay Hotel. This analysis of the audio of gunfire certainly indicates the use of multiple weapons.

It doesn’t absolutely rule out the possibility of one man using those weapons, but it suggests there was more than one shooter—and any honest law-enforcement agency would consider this analysis important, and would pursue a relentless investigation based on that premise. To do otherwise would be a dereliction of duty.

“…at the very beginning, before the cabby changed locations, you hear an initial 5 round burst that is very loud. Right after it stops, within a second, you hear the exact same staccato burst but from much farther away – like a mirror image. Other than being surprised at how loud the initial burst was, I think for sure that the second distance burst was an echo of the first and bouncing back off another building.”

“But, right at 1:08, listen to the ‘timing’ of the burst there. There is a ‘lone’ opening pop before the firing breaks into a rhythm of a short 7 round burst. Then .5 sec pause and then you hear the same pattern from a distance. I believe this is an echo. Then, following, you hear that same delayed lead off shot but this time followed by a longer sustained burst of about 50 rounds (I believe this to be from a drum magazine, obviously not a 30 round mag). After it stops, you continue to hear the distant echo bounce back for about another 2 seconds. In other words, there is about a 2 second delay to the echo. That would simply mean that it was bouncing off a building about 565 feet away (1 second to get to the building and 1 second to bounce back). Speed of sound is about 1125 feet per second.”

“Also, listen to the ‘rhythm’ of the fire at 3:38. Starts off with that same delayed first shot, but then continues in a varying ‘up and down’ speed sort of like someone turning the crank handle on an old Gatling gun. For SURE, this is not an original full automatic weapon!!! They don’t sound like this and the firing might start and stop, but while it [is] firing the rate of fire is constant! Dead giveaway that it was some sort of ‘jimmy rigged’ weapon like with a bump fire device. There was at one time a device made that attached inside the trigger guard and literally had a crank on it so that by turning the crank each revolution of the crank would fire 2 or 3 rounds. It sounds exactly like something like this to me!”

“The auto firing could have been nothing more than mostly a ‘smokescreen’ distraction for the real shooter who was set up like I described above. That how I would be if I was surrounded by ISIS guys and didn’t want to give away my position. I’d love to know the coroner’s report on the caliber of bullets that hit the people versus the empty cartridges found in the hotel room – IF we can even believe THAT! I’m at the point now of only believing something I can SEE with my own eyes, or something that makes sense to me when I first hear it.”

“So, my thoughts are that if this was a setup false flag and there was a second shooter, that shooter would be firing a semi-auto silenced weapon from a highly camouflaged firing position and you would have never heard him. Whether or not they had their ‘*bleep* together’ enough to have both the automatic distracting fire and the real deadly fire be matching calibers, I don’t know. But, quite frankly, this day in time, why would they need this when they can fake just about anything and no one really knows. There are no real journalists left in mainstream media as we already clearly know. They are just talking pundits.”

Multiple weapons. Therefore, the strong possibility of multiple shooters. Therefore, do an actual investigation.

Unless that is not the goal.

The police in Vegas have already said there was just one shooter. They don’t explain how they came to that conclusion. They never do.

At their recent press conference, there was another huge omission. They didn’t name the weapon the purported shooter was using. Many people (but not the mainstream reporters) want to know.

With audio of gunfire at hand, there would be analysis contradicting the one-weapon theory.

The police spokesman did, in fact, mention people who are saying there were multiple shooters. He was quick to deny such “chatter.” On what basis?

The police are in charge. They do the investigation. They decide. They’re the professionals. Private citizens and independent reporters are mere distractions.

He mouthed the worn-out “let us do our job.”

No one is stopping the police from doing their job. It’s the quality and honesty of the job we’re doubting.

Jon Rappoport

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Re: False Flag

Postby Ranger66 » Oct 4th, 2017, 8:53 am

“never question anything.”

I question everything, I just do it with an unbiased mind set and no preconceived endings. I understand that governments and nefarious groups exist but I am not so naive to believe everything is a conspiracy and living in a world where everything is a conspiracy must be dismal and sad place to be.
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Re: False Flag

Postby FrankMoore » Oct 5th, 2017, 2:49 pm

peaceseeker wrote:Multiple shooters in Vegas: the standard progression of events in a staged attack
https://jonrappoport.wordpress.com/2017 ... d-attacks/
by Jon Rappoport
October 4, 2017

—In case anyone doesn’t get the point, multiple shooters in Las Vegas would imply much planning and coordination for a given political purpose. Not a crazy lone act of a crazy man. The whole scene would change in an instant. Everything the public knows would be wrong.

In a minute, I’ll get to an expert report about the now-famous taxi cab video, which contains much audio of shots fired at the Mandalay Hotel. The driver was parked at the hotel when the shooting began and stayed there for several minutes. But first, I want to describe the standard progression in false flags.

In several articles (archive here), I’ve established enough probability of multiple shooters, in the Vegas-concert attack, to warrant a serious and honest investigation by law-enforcement.

But of course, that’s not happening.

There is a standard sequence that is usually followed in these events.

As soon as the attacks occur, reports begin coming in from the press. There is conflicting information. There were multiple shooters—no, there was just one shooter. The purported Sandy Hook shooter, Adam Lanza? His father was killed in New Jersey—no, his mother was killed in Connecticut.

These discrepancies and bizarre contradictions are pruned away and discarded by the press as quickly as possible, as the official line is brought front and center. The contradictions are buried as if they never existed.

There was a lone shooter. Period. In the majority of cases, he is dead. Shot by police, or he committed suicide. So he can’t speak.

Even when the shooter is arrested, we almost never hear from him again. He never makes a complete public statement. If there is a trial, he doesn’t testify.

You can bet your bottom dollar James Holmes, the purported Colorado theater shooter, would have had some very interesting comments to make, if he could have spoken freely. But no, he was hustled away to a psych ward, and that was that.

At law enforcement press conferences, the party line is emphasized: there was just one shooter, we know who he is, and he is dead (or in custody). Of course, the police or FBI spokespeople claim they are still investigating.

They throw that bone to the press and public: they’re on the case doing their jobs. In Vegas, we are told the police are carrying out a thorough inquiry, in order to understand Stephen Braddock’s motive for killing and maiming concert goers. No stone will be left unturned.

Now the press turns to the victim stories, with a few hero stories thrown in for good measure. Human interest. At the same time, we hear calls for unity and coming together. No one is sure what that means, but it doesn’t matter. It sounds right.

At this point, political leaders launch their agendas. There is usually a demand for new gun control legislation, for example. The leaders know, of course, that the weapon the supposed lone shooter used was already illegal and banned; or if not, criminals and terrorists are able to secure those weapons, regardless of any law. Only private law-abiding citizens, who see guns as a form of self-defense, would be stripped of that protection.

Until the last year or so of attacks in the US, there was a fictitious grieving period announced by the press. Candlelight vigils were played up. There were many photos of flowers and messages placed at the site of the crime. Now, apparently, the formal grieving is thought to be less important. The press needs a new story about another subject. The pace is faster.

That’s the basic sequence. There are additions here and there, but that’s the basic pattern.

One addition: If the government and the press see there may be a problem convincing the public that the official narrative is factual, the networks will send their national TV news anchors to the scene of the crime, as the story breaks, to cement the party line. The prestige of these anchors keeps viewers in their usual state of light trance and acceptance.

Now, here is a report about the taxi-cab video taken by a driver at the Mandalay Hotel. This analysis of the audio of gunfire certainly indicates the use of multiple weapons.

It doesn’t absolutely rule out the possibility of one man using those weapons, but it suggests there was more than one shooter—and any honest law-enforcement agency would consider this analysis important, and would pursue a relentless investigation based on that premise. To do otherwise would be a dereliction of duty.

“…at the very beginning, before the cabby changed locations, you hear an initial 5 round burst that is very loud. Right after it stops, within a second, you hear the exact same staccato burst but from much farther away – like a mirror image. Other than being surprised at how loud the initial burst was, I think for sure that the second distance burst was an echo of the first and bouncing back off another building.”

“But, right at 1:08, listen to the ‘timing’ of the burst there. There is a ‘lone’ opening pop before the firing breaks into a rhythm of a short 7 round burst. Then .5 sec pause and then you hear the same pattern from a distance. I believe this is an echo. Then, following, you hear that same delayed lead off shot but this time followed by a longer sustained burst of about 50 rounds (I believe this to be from a drum magazine, obviously not a 30 round mag). After it stops, you continue to hear the distant echo bounce back for about another 2 seconds. In other words, there is about a 2 second delay to the echo. That would simply mean that it was bouncing off a building about 565 feet away (1 second to get to the building and 1 second to bounce back). Speed of sound is about 1125 feet per second.”

“Also, listen to the ‘rhythm’ of the fire at 3:38. Starts off with that same delayed first shot, but then continues in a varying ‘up and down’ speed sort of like someone turning the crank handle on an old Gatling gun. For SURE, this is not an original full automatic weapon!!! They don’t sound like this and the firing might start and stop, but while it [is] firing the rate of fire is constant! Dead giveaway that it was some sort of ‘jimmy rigged’ weapon like with a bump fire device. There was at one time a device made that attached inside the trigger guard and literally had a crank on it so that by turning the crank each revolution of the crank would fire 2 or 3 rounds. It sounds exactly like something like this to me!”

“The auto firing could have been nothing more than mostly a ‘smokescreen’ distraction for the real shooter who was set up like I described above. That how I would be if I was surrounded by ISIS guys and didn’t want to give away my position. I’d love to know the coroner’s report on the caliber of bullets that hit the people versus the empty cartridges found in the hotel room – IF we can even believe THAT! I’m at the point now of only believing something I can SEE with my own eyes, or something that makes sense to me when I first hear it.”

“So, my thoughts are that if this was a setup false flag and there was a second shooter, that shooter would be firing a semi-auto silenced weapon from a highly camouflaged firing position and you would have never heard him. Whether or not they had their ‘*bleep* together’ enough to have both the automatic distracting fire and the real deadly fire be matching calibers, I don’t know. But, quite frankly, this day in time, why would they need this when they can fake just about anything and no one really knows. There are no real journalists left in mainstream media as we already clearly know. They are just talking pundits.”

Multiple weapons. Therefore, the strong possibility of multiple shooters. Therefore, do an actual investigation.

Unless that is not the goal.

The police in Vegas have already said there was just one shooter. They don’t explain how they came to that conclusion. They never do.

At their recent press conference, there was another huge omission. They didn’t name the weapon the purported shooter was using. Many people (but not the mainstream reporters) want to know.

With audio of gunfire at hand, there would be analysis contradicting the one-weapon theory.

The police spokesman did, in fact, mention people who are saying there were multiple shooters. He was quick to deny such “chatter.” On what basis?

The police are in charge. They do the investigation. They decide. They’re the professionals. Private citizens and independent reporters are mere distractions.

He mouthed the worn-out “let us do our job.”

No one is stopping the police from doing their job. It’s the quality and honesty of the job we’re doubting.

Jon Rappoport

(To read about Jon’s mega-collection, Power Outside The Matrix, click here.)


Interesting stuff Jon. Thanks for sharing.
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Re: False Flag

Postby peaceseeker » Oct 6th, 2017, 12:47 pm

^^^
You're welcome, FrankMoore. To be sure, I'm not Jon Rappoport...just someone I've followed for years. About Jon Rappoport - http://www.nomorefakenews.com/aboutjon.html

There's so much more to the recent event in Las Vegas than what's being reported by msm/govt. I wish people would try and use more logic when digesting these type events rather than allowing themselves be so easily led by emotion.

Truthstream Media's Aaron & Melissa Dykes are doing some great work!...

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Re: False Flag

Postby peaceseeker » Oct 10th, 2017, 10:14 am

The reality of false flag attacks - The US vs Cuba example
https://www.brasscheck.com/video/the-re ... mhide=true



Like it or not this is real

Even at this late date, many people can’t imagine the US government planning and carrying out attacks on US soil to achieve political aims.

Time to wake up on that one.

In the early 60s, the Joint Chiefs of Staff signed off on a plan that involved:

1. Blowing up a fake passenger plane operating as a drone

2. Using CIA agents to pose as college student victims

3. Killing some people for real to add to the terror

4. Using this operation as a justification to invade Cuba

Not a conspiracy theory…a documented planned operation signed off on by the Joint Chiefs of Staff.

It was only stopped by the Secretary of Defense at the time, Robert McNamara – otherwise it would have happened.

The mixing of real violence with fake violence and then blaming on someone else in order to attain a political end is reality in the US – like it or not.
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Re: False Flag

Postby Ranger66 » Oct 12th, 2017, 9:01 am

“It was only stopped by the Secretary of Defense at the time, Robert McNamara”

So your logic is that the action was stopped and then became a reality?
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Re: False Flag

Postby Dizzy1 » Oct 12th, 2017, 10:26 pm

peaceseeker wrote:False flag in Vegas shooting?
https://jonrappoport.wordpress.com/2017 ... -shooting/
Oct 3, 2017
by Jon Rappoport

False flags always target the psychological state of mind of the public. Mind control is the goal.

To boil it down, a false flag is an operation staged to blame someone for a crime, someone who didn’t commit the crime.

Why? Because by blaming that person or group, and by convincing many others to blame that person or group, you achieve an important objective.

Simplistic over-exaggerated version: “Last night, a homeless man was found shot dead in an alley. The gun was found next to his body. The Mayor’s fingerprints were on the [planted] gun. The Mayor was arrested at his office. The election nears. The Mayor’s opponent now appears to have a clear path to victory…”

Less simplistic version: “…the worst mass shooting in US history. Stephen Paddock, 64, has been named as the Las Vegas shooter. He is dead. He killed 58 people at a concert and wounded 515 others. In the Congress, calls are rising for new gun control laws…”

But, as it turns out, the evidence suggests there were multiple shooters in the Mandalay Hotel. Paddock may or may not have been one of them. The overall operation was designed to invoke widespread horror and fear, and usher in new restrictions on gun ownership…

The other possible shooters in the hotel would have been professionals, tasked with killing as many people as possible at the country music concert.

Gun control would not be the only agenda in this false flag.

Heavily militarized police all over this country would be another agenda.

Putting a significant dent in the economy would be another—if attendance at public events and in crowded public places diminishes.

Such a reduction in attendance could even affect political forums and other gatherings where free speech and the right to assemble are vital. (We’ve already seen significant disruptions of these events.)

Invoking fear and passivity in the population is another basic agenda. This leads to the attitude: “Let the authorities handle everything.”

We could see new, more outrageous violations of Constitutional search and seizure principles, all in the name of “the need for security.”

As in the aftermath of Sandy Hook, there may be new calls for psychiatric screening of the population, including young children, in order to “spot criminals before they commit crimes.” This is sheer madness, because no so-called mental disorder is based on any defining lab test, and many of the prescribed drugs (SSRI antidepressants) push people over the edge into committing violence. —More violence, more calls for psychiatric screening, more drugs, more violence: an escalating scenario and repeating cycle, leading to tighter Control from above.

When was the last time you saw a major false flag exposed by the mainstream press, and then admitted to by the actual perpetrators, who then explained their true objectives?

Never.

False flags are, over the long term, essential to maintaining and expanding the status quo: power is collected and increased at the top, and then exerted downward.

Note: All prior analyses I’ve made about the duration of the shooting, and numbers of people killed and injured, are subject to change. Why? Because as yet, we have no accurate reports on how many of the 515 people injured were actually shot versus trampled or hurt in some other fashion. Also, police reports that are emerging differ on the duration of the shooting. The NY Times is talking about roughly 7 minutes. Newsweek suggests the duration is longer.

Nevertheless, the background of the purported shooter, Stephen Paddock, gives no indication of any competence with auto weapons, gives no indication he could have dealt with the problems and challenges of using such a weapon—and on top of that, his state of mind at the time, as an non-professional, would have been unstable, to say the least.

Any reasonable law-enforcement group investigating this mass shooting would certainly keep its options open, regarding other perpetrators. But that is not what is happening here. The books are closed on this case. There is no going back.

The desired result has been achieved. One shooter, mass killings. End of story. Objective achieved.

That rush to judgment and “closure” is also a prime feature of the false flag. It has to be.

The people who ridicule at those who have lost their lives by writing garbage like this are just as deranged, if not more so, as the shooter themselves. Sad that people can't have respect for people who have lost their sons, daughters, sisters, brothers, husbands, wives, fathers, mothers and have to resort to sick and twisted fantasies in their delusional pursuit of false truths to satisfy their bizarre sense of chronic delusions. Sad, sad, sad.
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Re: False Flag

Postby peaceseeker » Oct 13th, 2017, 7:59 am

^^^
Oh, give it a rest, Dizzy1. You guys still don't hear the family members of the victims of 9/11...most likely never will. Your hypocrisy knows no bounds!

At last, an authentic combat-experienced analysis of Las Vegas - Bump stocks and other fantasies debunked



No way, no how

There are Hollywood versions of reality. There there is reality.

We’ve been looking for a common sense analysis of Las Vegas like this for a while. There are only 268 views for this video seven days after it was posted when we found it. Hopefully, we can generate more attention for it.

Download this one before YouTube claims it is “offensive” and pulls it.

Frequently fired guns get red hot – fast.

Frequently fired guns in a room create a lot of smoke – fast.

Hitting that many people (500+) by one shooter from a distance even when shooting into a crowd is HIGHLY unlikely. Recall, there was a long break after the first burst and the crowd dispersed pretty rapidly.

It would have taken thousands of rounds to do the reported level of damage which means the hotel room should have been knee deep in brass. Photos show it wasn’t. That right there is physically impossible.

Running from room to room in order to shoot from different vantage points. Really?

And efficiently switching weapons constantly with different set ups and different calibers. Are you kidding me?

All pulled off by an out-of-shape 60+ year old man with no combat training or experience?

There’s a reason they send teenagers and 20 something year olds to pull triggers and there’s a reason they spend weeks whipping them into shape before they launch them. This is not a day at the gun range. It’s hard manual labor: seriously physical and psychologically taxing WORK.

Finally, the wounds from weapons like these should have been horrendous and yet we see people supposedly “shot in the neck”, “shot in the chest”, “shot in the hip” in the hospital the next day grinning for the cameras looking fresh as daisies.

Remember the Congressman shot in the hip at the Congressional ballgame in DC in June? He was DESTROYED and wasn’t seen in pubic for nearly four months. From just one round.

A battlefield – which is what this was the equivalent of – is like a slaughterhouse floor. There are blood and guts and body parts everywhere and scenes of sheer horror that at least one camera should have caught. We saw nothing but some people running and others laying down.

Were people injured and killed? Most likely yes. Did it happen the way it’s being reported? ABSOLUTELY NOT.

Listen to this young man.

He’s been there and knows what he’s talking about.

There is a physical reality to these things and there’s not a single photograph or video that supports it.
"I think our society is run by insane people for insane objectives...I think we're being run by maniacs for maniacal ends...but I'm liable to be put away as insane for expressing that. That's what's insane about it."
~ John Lennon
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Re: False Flag

Postby Ranger66 » Oct 13th, 2017, 12:48 pm

“family members of the victims of 9/11”

Welcome to the land of the crazy and daft. This is where you can say anything with no proof and be a hero.
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Re: False Flag

Postby Because_They_Lie » Oct 13th, 2017, 1:01 pm

As always, excellent compilation of reports peaceseeker!

At this point in our lives I think it is naivety that has individuals still believing in the mainstream narrative of events.

The basic reality is that there is a covert war taking place on all of us.

Let us not fail to realize that weathers wars have been & are being rolled out on our country, the US and many other countries on Earth.

False flag for Vegas, is what most are saying.

Even people in our community have told me that they know of people who were injured or hurt, myself I have a hard time believing that anyone was shot at all.... injured from the commotion, yes.

The bullets, if there were bullets were blanks - most likely it was sound effects being used.

It is actually becoming predictable and boring at this point.

The War on Terror, that's what everything that occurs is these days, most likely all throughout history.

So, FEAR NO - because the war is on you and me - psychological trauma = minds are easier to control= absolute Power.
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Re: False Flag

Postby Gilchy » Oct 13th, 2017, 1:58 pm

Because_They_Lie wrote:...
Even people in our community have told me that they know of people who were injured or hurt, myself I have a hard time believing that anyone was shot at all.... injured from the commotion, yes.

The bullets, if there were bullets were blanks - most likely it was sound effects being used.
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So someone here in Kelowna says "I know one of the people who was shot", and you think it's more likely that they are lying, the person was was shot is lying, and 22,000 witnesses are lying?
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