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Re: JFK Assassination

Postby peaceseeker » Nov 29th, 2012, 9:45 am

"I think our society is run by insane people for insane objectives...I think we're being run by maniacs for maniacal ends...but I'm liable to be put away as insane for expressing that. That's what's insane about it."
~ John Lennon

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Postby peaceseeker » Oct 11th, 2013, 8:06 am

John F. Kennedy Assassination Facts, Theories
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Confronting the John F. Kennedy Assassination

Where Do We Find Hope When A Peacemaking President Is Assassinated?

By James W. Douglass, author of acclaimed book JFK and the Unspeakable

I believe this experiment we are doing into the dark truth of Dallas (and of Washington, D.C.) can be the most hopeful experience of our lives. But, it does require patience and tenacity to confront the unspeakable. We, first of all, need to take the time to recognize the sources in our history for what happened in Dallas on November 22, 1963.

'Plausible deniability'

The doctrine of "plausible deniability" in an old government document provides us with a source of the assassination of President Kennedy. The document was issued in 1948, one year after the CIA was established, and 15 years before JFK's murder. That document, National Security Council directive 10/2, on June 18, 1948, "gave the highest sanction of the [U.S.] government to a broad range of covert operations" — propaganda, sabotage, economic warfare, subversion of all kinds — that were seen as necessary to "win" the Cold War against the Communists. [1]

In the 1950s, under the leadership of CIA Director Allen Dulles, the doctrine of "plausible deniability" became the CIA's green light to assassinate national leaders, conduct secret military operations, and overthrow governments that our government thought were on the wrong side in the Cold War. "Plausible deniability" meant our intelligence agencies, acting as paramilitary groups, had to lie and cover their tracks so effectively that there would be no trace of U.S. government responsibility for criminal activities on an ever-widening scale.

Truman warns about the CIA

The man who proposed this secret, subversive process in 1948, diplomat George Kennan, said later, in light of its consequences, that it was "the greatest mistake I ever made." [2] President Harry Truman, under whom the CIA was created, and during whose presidency the plausible deniability doctrine was authorized, had deep regrets. He said in a statement on December 22, 1963:

"We have grown up as a nation, respected for our free institutions and for our ability to maintain a free and open society. There is something about the way the CIA has been functioning that is casting a shadow over our historic position and I feel that we need to correct it." [3]

Truman later remarked: "The CIA was set up by me for the sole purpose of getting all the available information to the president. It was not intended to operate as an international agency engaged in strange activities." [4]

One assumption behind Kennan's proposal unleashing the CIA for its war against Communism was that the Agency's criminal power could be confined to covert action outside the borders of the United States, with immunity from its lethal power granted to U.S. citizens. That assumption proved to be wrong.

During the Cold War, the hidden growth of the CIA's autonomous power corresponded to the public growth of what was called a fortress state. A democratic national security state is a contradiction in terms.

The insecure basis of our security then became weapons that could destroy the planet. To protect the security of that illusory means of security, which was absolute destructive power, we now needed a ruling elite of national security managers with an authority above that of our elected representatives.

So from that point on, our military-industrial managers made the real decisions of state. President Truman simply ratified their decisions and entrenched their power, as he did with the establishment of the CIA, and as his National Security Council did with its endorsement of plausible deniability.

Kennedy sacks CIA leaders

We know how JFK reacted to the CIA's setting him up. He was furious. When the enormity of the Bay of Pigs disaster came home to him, he said he wanted "to splinter the CIA in a thousand pieces and scatter it to the winds." [5]

He ordered an investigation into the whole affair, under the very watchful eyes of his brother, Attorney General Robert Kennedy. He fired CIA Director Allen Dulles, Deputy Director Richard Bissell, Jr., and Deputy Director General Charles Cabell. That was a huge decision — firing the top of the CIA's hierarchy, including the legendary leader who had come to personify the agency, Allen Dulles.

The president then took steps "to cut the CIA budget in 1962 and again in 1963, aiming at a 20 percent reduction by 1966." [6] He was cutting back the CIA's power in very concrete ways, step by step.

JFK alienates CIA and Pentagon

JFK had to confront the unspeakable in the Missile Crisis in the form of total nuclear war. At the height of that terrifying conflict, he felt the situation spiraling out of control, especially because of the actions of his generals.

The White House tapes show Kennedy questioning and resisting the mounting pressure to bomb Cuba coming from both the Joint Chiefs and the Executive Committee of the National Security Council. At the same time, John Kennedy and Nikita Khrushchev, the two men most responsible for the Cuban Missile Crisis, seemed locked in a hopeless ideological conflict. The U.S. and Soviet leaders had been following Cold War policies that now seemed to be moving inexorably toward a war of extermination.

Kennedy and Khrushchev: Two enemies become peacemakers

Yet, as we have since learned, Kennedy and Khrushchev had been engaged in a secret correspondence for over a year that gave signs of hope. Even as they moved publicly step by step toward a Cold War climax that would almost take the world over the edge with them, they were at the same time smuggling confidential letters back and forth that recognized each other's humanity and hoped for a solution. They were public enemies who, in the midst of deepening turmoil, were secretly learning something approaching trust in each other.

On what seemed the darkest day in the crisis, when a Soviet missile had shot down a U2 spy plane over Cuba, intensifying the already overwhelming pressures on Kennedy to bomb Cuba, the president sent his brother, Attorney General Robert Kennedy, secretly to Soviet Ambassador Anatoly Dobrynin. RFK told Dobrynin, as Dobrynin reported to Khrushchev, that the president "didn't know how to resolve the situation. The military is putting great pressure on him... Even if he doesn't want or desire a war, something irreversible could occur against his will. That is why the President is asking for help to solve this problem." [6]

In his memoirs, Khrushchev recalled a further, chilling sentence from Robert Kennedy's appeal to Dobrynin: "If the situation continues much longer, the President is not sure that the military will not overthrow him and seize power." [7]

At a moment when the world was falling into darkness, Kennedy did what from his generals' standpoint was intolerable and unforgivable. JFK not only rejected his generals' pressures for war. Even worse, the president then reached out to their enemy, asking for help. That was treason.

When Nikita Khrushchev had received Kennedy's plea for help in Moscow, he turned to his Foreign Minister Andrei Gromyko and said, "We have to let Kennedy know that we want to help him."

Khrushchev stunned himself by what he had just said: Did he really want to help his enemy, Kennedy? Yes, he did. He repeated the word to his foreign minister:

"Yes, help. We now have a common cause, to save the world from those pushing us toward war." [8]

How do we understand that moment? The two most heavily armed leaders in history, on the verge of total nuclear war, suddenly joined hands against those on both sides pressuring them to attack. Khrushchev ordered the immediate withdrawal of his missiles from Cuba, in return for Kennedy's public pledge never to invade Cuba and his secret promise to withdraw U.S. missiles from Turkey — as he would in fact do.

When President Kennedy stood up to the Pentagon, the CIA, and the military-industrial complex, he was treated as a traitor. His attempt to save the planet from the weapons of his own nation was regarded as treason. The doctrine of “plausible deniability” allowed for the assassination of a president seen as a national security risk himself.

Committing heresy for peace

At American University on June 10, 1963, President Kennedy proposed an end to the Cold War. Kennedy's rejection of "a Pax Americana" was an act of resistance to the military-industrial complex. The military-industrial complex was totally dependent on "a Pax Americana enforced on the world by American weapons of war." [9]

That Pax Americana policed by the Pentagon was considered the system's indispensable, hugely profitable means of containing and defeating Communism. At his own risk, Kennedy was rejecting the foundation of the Cold War system.

Kennedy said he wanted to negotiate a nuclear test ban treaty with the Soviet Union in Moscow — in their capitol, not ours — as soon as possible. To clear the way for such a treaty, he said he was suspending U.S. atmospheric tests unilaterally.

Kennedy's strategy of peace penetrated the Soviet government's defenses far more effectively than any missile could have done. The Soviet press, which was accustomed to censoring U.S. government statements, published the entire speech all across the country. Soviet radio stations broadcast and rebroadcast the speech to the Soviet people. In response to Kennedy's turn toward peace, the Soviet government even stopped jamming all Western broadcasts into their country.

His speech was received less favorably in his own country. The New York Times reported his government's skepticism: "Generally there was not much optimism in official Washington that the President's conciliation address at American University would produce agreement on a test ban treaty or anything else." [10]

In contrast to the Soviet media that were electrified by the speech, the U.S. media ignored or downplayed it. For the first time, Americans had less opportunity to read and hear their president's words than did the Russian people. A turn-around was occurring in the world on different levels. Whereas nuclear disarmament had suddenly become feasible, Kennedy's position in his own government had become precarious.

Nuclear test ban treaty

President Kennedy's next critical conflict with his national security state, propelling him toward the coup d'etat he saw as possible, was the Partial Nuclear Test Ban Treaty that he signed with Nikita Khrushchev on July 25, 1963, six weeks after the American University Address. The president had done an end run around the Joint Chiefs of Staff. He negotiated the Test Ban Treaty without consulting them, because they opposed it.

On September 20, Kennedy spoke to the United Nations. He suggested that its members see the Test Ban Treaty as a beginning and engage together in an experiment in peace:

"Two years ago I told this body that the United States had proposed, and was willing to sign, a Limited Test Ban treaty. Today that treaty has been signed. It will not put an end to war. It will not remove basic conflicts. It will not secure freedom for all. But it can be a lever, and Archimedes, in explaining the principles of the lever, was said to have declared to his friends: 'Give me a place where I can stand — and I shall move the world.'" [11]

JFK reaches out to Cuba

In the month leading up to the assassination, Kennedy and Castro actually began a dialogue on normalizing U.S.-Cuban relations, through the mediation of French journalist Jean Daniel who personally visited both men. Daniel was actually eating lunch with Castro in his home on November 22, conveying Kennedy's hopeful words, when the Cuban premier was phoned with the news of Kennedy's death. Castro's somber comment to Daniel was: "Everything is changed. Everything is going to change." [12]

JFK's top-secret order to begin withdrawal from Vietnam

Kennedy decided on his policy of withdrawal from Vietnam, against the arguments of most of his advisers, at a contentious National Security Council meeting on October 2. When Defense Secretary Robert McNamara was leaving the meeting to announce the withdrawal to the White House reporters, "the President called to him, 'And tell them that means all of the helicopter pilots, too.'" [13]

In fact, it would not mean that at all. After JFK's assassination, his withdrawal policy was quietly voided. In light of the future consequences of Dallas, it was not only John Kennedy who was murdered on November 22, 1963, but 58,000 other Americans and over three million Vietnamese, Laotians, and Cambodians.

The Steel Crisis

In a head-on confrontation with the ruling elite of Big Steel, JFK ordered the Defense Department to switch huge military contracts away from the major steel companies to the smaller, more loyal contractors that had not defied him. After the big steel companies bitterly backed down from their price raises, JFK and his brother, Robert, were denounced as symbols of "ruthless power" by the Wall Street power brokers at the center of the military-industrial complex.

In an editorial titled, "Steel: The Ides of April" (the month in which Kennedy faced down the steel executives), Henry Luce's Fortune magazine called to readers' minds the soothsayer's warning in Shakespeare of the assassination of Julius Caesar. Fortune was warning Kennedy that his actions had confirmed the worst fears of corporate America about his presidency, and would have dire consequences. As interpreted by the most powerful people in the nation, the steel crisis was a logical prelude to Dallas. It was another Bay of Pigs.

JFK reaches out to third world

Yet another Bay of Pigs was Kennedy's diplomatic opening to the fiery Third-World leadership of President Sukarno of Indonesia. Sukarno was "the most outspoken proponent of Third World neutralism in the Cold War." He had actually coined the term "Third World." The CIA wanted Sukarno dead. It wanted what it saw as his pro-communist "global orientation" obliterated. During Eisenhower's presidency, the CIA repeatedly tried to kill and overthrow Sukarno but failed.

Most significantly, three days before his assassination, President Kennedy said he was willing to accept Sukarno's invitation to visit Indonesia the following spring. His visit to Indonesia would have dramatized in a very visible way Kennedy's support of Third World nationalism, a sea change in U.S. government policy.

JFK's Indonesian policy was also killed in Dallas, with horrendous consequences. After Lyndon Johnson became president, the CIA finally succeeded in overthrowing Sukarno in a massive purge of suspected Communists that ended up killing 500,000 to one million Indonesians.

Kennedy's proposal for a joint U.S.-Soviet moon landing

In his September 20, 1963, speech to the United Nations, JFK once again stated his hope for a joint expedition to the moon. However, neither American nor Soviet military leaders, jealous of their rocket secrets, were ready to accept his initiative. Nikita Khrushchev, siding with his own rocket experts, felt he was still forced to decline Kennedy's proposal.

That further visionary step to end the Cold War also died with Kennedy. The United States went to the moon alone. U.S. and Soviet rockets continued to be pointed at their opposite countries rather than being joined in a project for a more hopeful future. Sergei Khrushchev said, "I think if Kennedy had lived, we would be living in a completely different world."

JFK meets the Quakers

In the final weeks of his presidency, President Kennedy took one more risky step toward peace. It can be seen in relation to a meeting he had the year before with six Quakers who visited him in his office. Among their challenges to him was a recommendation that the United States offer its surplus food to the People's Republic of China. China was considered an enemy nation. Yet it was also one whose people were beset by a famine.

Kennedy said to the Quakers, "Do you mean you would feed your enemy when he has his hands on your throat?" [14]

The Quakers said they meant exactly that. They reminded him it was what Jesus had said should be done. Kennedy said he knew that, and knew that it was the right thing to do, but he couldn't overcome the China lobby in Washington to accomplish it.

Nevertheless, a year and a half later in the fall of 1963, against overwhelming opposition, Kennedy decided to sell wheat to the Russians, who had a severe grain shortage. His outraged critics said in effect to him what he had said to the Quakers: Would you feed an enemy who has his hands on your throat?

Vice President Lyndon Johnson said he thought Kennedy's decision to sell wheat to Russia would turn out to be the worst political mistake he ever made. Today JFK's controversial decision "to feed the enemy" has been forgotten. In 1963, the wheat sale was seen as a threat to our security — feeding the enemy to kill us. [For solid evidence Johnson's involvement in the JFK assassination, see the History Channel documentary available here.]

The violent reaction to his decision was represented on Friday morning, November 22, 1963, by a threatening, full-page advertisement addressed to him in the Dallas Morning News. The ad was bordered in black, like a funeral notice. Among the charges of disloyalty to the nation that the ad made against the president was the question: "Why have you approved the sale of wheat and corn to our enemies when you know the Communist soldiers 'travel on their stomach' just as ours do?"

JFK talks about assassination

JFK read the ad before the flight from Fort Worth to Dallas, pointed it out to Jacqueline Kennedy, and talked about the possibility of his being assassinated that day. "But, Jackie," he said, "if somebody wants to shoot me from a window with a rifle, nobody can stop it, so why worry about it?" [15]

Peacemaking was now at the top of his agenda as president. That was not the kind of leadership the CIA, the Joint Chiefs of Staff, and the military-industrial complex wanted in the White House. Given the Cold War dogmas that gripped those dominant powers, and given Kennedy's turn toward peace, his assassination followed as a matter of course.

So how can the why of his murder give us hope? Where do we find hope when a peacemaking president is assassinated by his own national security state?

The why of Kennedy’s assassination encircles the earth. Because John Kennedy chose peace on earth at the height of the Cold War, he was executed. But because he turned toward peace, in spite of the consequences to himself, humanity is still alive and struggling. That is hopeful, especially if we understand what he went through and what he has given to us as his vision.

A profile in courage

The void of the unspeakable is the dark abyss, the midnight reality of plausible deniability, that we face when we peer into our national security state's murder of President Kennedy. And that is precisely where hope begins.

At a certain point in his presidency, John Kennedy turned a corner and didn't look back. I believe that decisive turn toward his final purpose in life, resulting in his death, happened in the darkness of the Cuban Missile Crisis. Although Kennedy was already in conflict with his national security managers, the missile crisis was the breaking point.

At that most critical moment for us all, he turned from any remaining control his security managers had over him toward a deeper ethic, a deeper vision in which the fate of the earth became his priority. Without losing sight of our own best hopes in this country, he began to home in, with his new partner, Nikita Khrushchev, on the hope of peace for everyone on this earth. He made that commitment to life at the cost of his own.

What a transforming story that is.

And what a propaganda campaign has been waged to keep us Americans from understanding that story, from telling it, and from re-telling it to our children and grandchildren.

Because that's a story whose telling can transform a nation. But when a nation is under the continuing domination of an idol, namely war, it is a story that will be covered up. When the story can liberate us from our idolatry of war, then the worshippers of the idol are going to do everything they can to keep the story from being told. From the standpoint of a belief that war is the ultimate power, that's too dangerous a story. It's a subversive story. It shows a different kind of security than always being ready to go to war.

It's unbelievable — or we're supposed to think it is — that a president was murdered by our own government agencies because he was seeking a more stable peace than relying on nuclear weapons. It's unspeakable.

For the sake of a nation that must always be preparing for war, that story must not be told. If it were, we might learn that peace is possible without making war. We might even learn there is a force more powerful than war. How unthinkable! But how necessary if life on earth is to continue.

That is why it is so hopeful for us to confront the unspeakable and to tell the transforming story of a man of courage, President John F. Kennedy. It is a story ultimately not of death, but of life — all our lives. In the end, it is not so much a story of one man as it is a story of peacemaking when the chips are down. That story is our story, a story of hope.


Important Note: To purchase the author's highly acclaimed book JFK and the Unspeakable: Why He Died and Why It Matters, click here. For a stunning History Channel documentary presenting powerful evidence that President Lyndon Johnson had a direct hand in the Kennedy assassination, click here. For documents on Kennedy stopping his generals from staging a terror attack in the U.S. and falsely accusing Cuba, click here. And for lots more reliable facts, videos, and revealing information on the John F. Kennedy assassination, click here.

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Re: JFK Assassination

Postby Jonrox » Nov 4th, 2013, 10:41 am

Really great documentary last night on Discovery last night called "JFK: The Smoking Gun". Essentially:

Oswald only managed to fire his Second World War-era Mannlicher-Carcano rifle twice and that only the second bullet struck the president directly. That 6.5-millimetre round passed cleanly through Kennedy’s neck and struck Texas Gov. John Connally, who was sitting in front of him. He says the third shot came from a different gun, at a different trajectory.

And the third shot that struck JFK in the head, was an accidental shot fired by a secret service agent in the follow-up car...

The final kill shot came from a secret service agent named George Hickey, who was riding in the rear seat of the follow-up car immediately behind the presidential limousine.

He notes that 11 witnesses say they saw Hickey holding a weapon at the time of the shooting — seven of those witnesses were fellow secret service agents and one of them was Hickey himself.

McLaren points to the devastating head wound Kennedy suffered in that final shot, which shattered his skull and brain in a manner consistent with a .223 frangible hollow point round — a particularly vicious bullet designed to explode on impact.

At the time, Hickey was in possession of an AR-15 assault rifle, which fires exactly that round, he says. When Hickey stood to search for the shooter, it appears he lost his balance in the car and accidentally fired his weapon.

There's definitely a conspiracy/coverup here, but it's not as sensational as most people would believe or want it to be. It's a simple coverup by the secret service to hide the fact it was one of their own who accidentally shot and killed the president.
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Re: JFK Assassination

Postby averagejoe » Nov 10th, 2013, 5:09 pm

Read what John Kerry had to say about the JFK Assassination...

John Kerry doesn't believe that Lee Harvey Oswald acted alone when he shot President Kennedy as he says the government investigation didn't 'get to the bottom' of the assassination

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... z2kILeOpII

I wonder if he became the President of the U.S. Would he hold a new investigation?
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Re: JFK Assassination

Postby Static » Nov 10th, 2013, 5:57 pm

CTV's W5 is on the JFK murder next Saturday.
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Re: JFK Assassination

Postby peaceseeker » Nov 12th, 2013, 3:52 pm

averagejoe wrote:Read what John Kerry had to say about the JFK Assassination...

John Kerry doesn't believe that Lee Harvey Oswald acted alone when he shot President Kennedy as he says the government investigation didn't 'get to the bottom' of the assassination

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... z2kILeOpII

I wonder if he became the President of the U.S. Would he hold a new investigation?


Not likely, averagejoe. Over the years Kerry has tried to appear to be 'for the people' but at the end of the day he is forever a Bonesman - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Sk ... bers#1960s - ...which is why he was picked to run against 'Dubya' in '04 and which is why he offered little resistance after having the election stolen from him.
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Re: JFK Assassination

Postby averagejoe » Nov 12th, 2013, 4:59 pm

Very true Peaceseeker! Those who know how they all work together, will know there will never be another investigation. For if there was, they will still pin it on Oswald...
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Postby kompili » Nov 12th, 2013, 6:58 pm

I watched a movie on the JFK Assassination last night, it is a new movie. What a brainwash, they showed Oswald working alone and some kind of madman. Hahaha funny what people will believe when it is fed to them.
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Postby averagejoe » Nov 12th, 2013, 11:27 pm

kompili wrote:I watched a movie on the JFK Assassination last night, it is a new movie. What a brainwash, they showed Oswald working alone and some kind of madman. Hahaha funny what people will believe when it is fed to them.


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Postby averagejoe » Nov 18th, 2013, 6:53 pm

Now a Kennedy family member comes out and says Oswald didn't act alone...more and more people are coming out. Now both the Kennedy's, Oswald's wife and American politicians.

My question is...are Lee Harvey Oswald, Kathleen Kennedy, John Kerry and many other Conspiracy Theorists?


JFK's niece admits she doubts Lee Harvey Oswald was the lone shooter in her uncle's assassination

Kathleen Kennedy Townsend said today she's uncertain Lee Harvey Oswald was the lone shooter in her uncle's 1963 assassination
Townsend is the eldest daughter of JFK's brother Robert F Kennedy
JFK's niece joins John Kerry and other prominent politicians questioning the details surrounding the president's assassination


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Re: JFK Assassination

Postby peaceseeker » Nov 22nd, 2013, 7:02 am

The JFK Assassination. Disputing the Official Theory that Lee Harvey Oswald was the “Lone Assassin”
By Dr. Gary G. Kohls
Global Research, November 20, 2013
http://www.globalresearch.ca/the-jfk-as ... in/5358874

Below is more documentation putting the lie to the media coverage (and the perpetual cover-up) of the 50th anniversary of the assassination of JFK. The powers-that-be desperately want as many of us viewers as possible to believe the easily disprovable Big Lie Theory that Lee Harvey Oswald was the lone crazed assassin of the president on November 22, 1963.

Last week I watched three of PBS’s JFK retrospectives, including Frontline’s “Who Was Lee Harvey Oswald?” and the fraudulent pseudoscientific “ballistics special” on NOVA [proudly underwritten by David Koch!]. I also caught some specials on NBC, CBS and ABC, and I was uniformly frustrated (predictably) at the consistency of the propaganda that is being orchestrated to lead us comfortably numb sheeple to nod our heads and agree that the official theories about the assassination were correct. None of the compelling evidence that I list below was allowed to be shown.

During some of the retrospectives that I watched there usually was some denegration of the true patriots who have resisted the brain-washing and independently examined the evidence disproving the official story. These dissenters (who haven’t yet lost the ability to think critically) were just dismissed as “conspiracy theorists”.

The following are some of the important items that disprove the official story line and that were never mentioned on any of the JFK retrospectives that I watched.

1) JFK’s brain or parts of his skull were thrown backwards (out of a large exit wound in the back of the skull) onto the trunk of the limo – which is the reason why Jackie was famously seen on the film footage turning around and reaching backwards. The Secret Service guy testified frequently that Jackie was not reaching for him, but for fragments of JFK’s brain. Again this is more evidence that one of the two head shots that killed JFK came from the front.

Below is the link to the statement of secret service agent Clint Hill (from 1975) saying that Jackie wasn’t reaching out to him, but rather she was reaching to retrieve a chunk of JFK’s brain. (Apparently, according to other interviews that Hill has given, he has also been spouting the easily refutable official story about Oswald being the lone shooter and that there were only 3 audible shots – which contradicts many witnesses who heard up to 6 shots. Hill knows what happens to whistleblowers who tell unwelcome truths that expose government conspiracies.)

Watch this video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lfrHqqzC3Sw

2) Also proving that there was at least one shooter in front of the motorcade, the surgical resident at Parkland Hospital, (Dr Ronald Jones) who was one of the several Parkland Hospital surgeons who attended JFK (all of whom, incidentally, also testified about the existence of the small entrance bullet wound in JFK’s throat), gave testimony on last Sunday’s Face the Nation with Bob Schieffer about the tiny “1/4 inch” entry wound in JFK’s throat (trauma surgeons know that entry wounds are small, and exit wounds are large – like the large blow-out wound at JFK’s right occipital area of the skull, also proving a shot coming from in front of the motorcade).

That small entry wound proves the conspiracy theory (now a “conspiracy fact”) that there was more than one shooter and therefore discredits the Warren Commission’s conclusions about a “lone crazed gunman” and therefore “no conspiracy”.

Check out minute 4 at: http://www.cbsnews.com/video/watch/?id=50159338n.

By the way, any good journalist would have asked Dr Jones about the significance of the tiny entrance wound in the front of the neck, but of course Scheiffer is no longer a good journalist. Rather, he is just an average millionaire talking head/anchor man, a mouthpiece of officialdom and a mouthpiece for the powerful multinational mega-corporate owners of the mainstream media who want us to not ask questions, not to rock their boat, to not panic and to not start thinking critically about what we are told to believe. Whomever pays the piper, calls the tune.

3) Thirdly, it is important for citizens who should be exposed to the non-corporate side of the story to consult some of Jim Fetzer’s powerful documented evidence that there was a conspiracy to kill JFK and a conspiracy to cover up the evidence which would have led honest investigators to find and name the conspirators. Indeed much of the available evidence presented in Fetzer’s writings about the assassination may not even have involved Oswald (except as a patsy).

Read some of that evidence at http://www.und.edu/org/jfkconference/UNDchapter30.pdf.

It is useful to read what Supreme Court Chief Justice Earl Warren said about the sealed documents that his commission examined. Apparently 50 years of secrecy protecting the identity of the many co-conspirators isn’t long enough. Arlen Specter, George H. W. Bush, the families of Lyndon Johnson, Gerald Ford and other commission members don’t want to risk being humiliated with the evidence of being involved in the murder or the cover-up.

Now -deceased FBI Director J. Edgar Hoover, who considered himself above the law, perjured himself in front of the Commission (Warren Commission member congressman Hale Boggs said that Hoover “lied his eyes out”); and Hoover’s loyal FBI “family“, even now, will probably do anything to prevent the release of information exposing Hoover’s involvement in the assassination. (Interestingly, Hoover, a homosexual and a cross-dresser, has no known offspring that would care about the besmirching of his legacy.) Others who want to have the past forgotten forever are the guilty or complicit members of Kennedy’s Secret Service, his Joint Chiefs of Staff and the CIA who are still alive and prosecutable if their involvement were to be revealed.

Current information says that more than a thousand sealed documents with secret information that only commission members and/or its investigators have seen are due to be released in 2017. Previously the sealed documents were not to be opened until 2039.

For more check out: http://www.history.com/news/history-lis ... commission

Earl Warren said:

“There will come a time when testimony taken by the Commission will be made public. But it might not be in your lifetime. There may be some things that would involve security. This would be preserved but not made public.” — Earl Warren

And listen to some 1968 quotes and warnings from comedian and JFK assassination expert Mort Sahl, who was black-listed after JFK’s death when he came out publically disputing the Warren Commission’s “lone assassin” theory:

“Once the neo-fascists became bold enough to slay the President on the street, they showed their hand. They showed how arrogant they had become.”—Mort Sahl

“(America) has to hang on through a period of the military and the CIA who have a blank check trying to sell fascism. If she can hang on long enough, Americans may yet live in the country in which they were born. And that is the country structured by Tom Paine and Tom Jefferson.” – Mort Sahl

“(Fascism in America) started with the death of Roosevelt. They moved in and they negated every treaty we made with every world leader who didn’t fit the fascist/militarist mold.”—Mort Sahl

For more of the transcript of a 1968 interview with Sahl, go to: http://www.assassinationscience.com/AnH ... tSahl.html
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Re: JFK Assassination

Postby peaceseeker » Nov 25th, 2013, 9:17 am

Barry Seal, the Dallas get-away plane, and the JFK assassination
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Postby peaceseeker » Dec 17th, 2014, 10:10 am

Jack Ruby - The missing videos
http://www.brasschecktv.com/videos/assa ... -ruby.html



Key man, mystery man

The story is that Lee Harvey Oswald shot and killed John F. Kennedy with a feat of sharp shooting that no one has been able to duplicate since.

A few days later, a man named Jack Ruby calmly strolled passed dozens of police and shot Oswald to death.

Oswald out of the picture...the end of any conspiracy investigation.

Here are four things the Dallas police and the national news media did a good job of covering up:

* The Dallas police knew Jack Ruby very well

(Ruby owned a strip club which served as a meeting place for local organized crime figures and a popular hang out for Dallas police officers.)

* Ruby knew Oswald.

* Ruby, like Oswald, worked as a police informant.

* Ruby once worked for Richard Nixon.

Watch the police spokesman lie at the press conference and a valiant reporter's effort to point out the obvious.

And listen to what Ruby says at the very end of the tape:

Ruby: "If Adlai Stevenson had been Vice President, there never would have been an assassination of President Kennedy."

Reporter: "Can you explain that?

Ruby: "The answer is the man who is in office now."
- See more at: http://www.brasschecktv.com/videos/assa ... 9xxfQ.dpuf
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Postby averagejoe » Jul 10th, 2015, 3:18 pm

Is this Lee Harvey Oswalt?

Close up.....

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As the motorcade passes the Book Depository Building.....

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Close up again.....

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Re: JFK Assassination

Postby peaceseeker » Nov 23rd, 2015, 2:29 pm

The ol' 'out of sight, out of mind' trick...

Kennedy knew a coup was coming - The Pentagon, The CIA, Vietnam and JFK
http://www.brasschecktv.com/videos/assa ... Uo3PO.dpuf

Did you know that yesterday was the 52nd anniversary of the assassination of John F Kennedy?

It came and went with ZERO mass media attention.

Proof that one month before he was killed Kennedy declared war on the CIA and he feared they were planning a coup.




A month before the assassination

John Kennedy when he wanted to speak to American people he talked to Arthur Krock and Authur Krock would publish material.

"John Kennedy has declared war on the Central Intelligence Agency."

"If the United States ever experiences an attempted coup to overthrow the government it will come from the CIA. The Agency represents tremendous power and total unaccountability to anyone."

One month later, they blew his head off.

- See more at: http://www.brasschecktv.com/videos/assa ... Uo3PO.dpuf
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