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Cloud-seeding planes - on CBC news

Postby Bejvas » Jul 17th, 2010, 5:01 am

Conspiracy???? Really????? Well, maybe the part on the comment posted on the CBC news article that is not only about weather control, but if this doesn't proof people that we were talking about them making artificial rain here in the Okanagan... then I don't know what do they need to see on front of their own eyes....

Calgary hail shrunk by cloud-seeding planes
Insurance companies hire weather modification company to minimize damage
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The Monday storm that pounded Calgary with hail the size of golf balls would have been even more severe if cloud seeding planes hadn't been in the sky earlier in the day, says an official with the company that flies the aircraft.

Just before the hail hit the city, Weather Modification Inc. had two airplanes in the air, seeding the clouds with shots of silver iodide, which shrinks the ice stones, said Tom Walton, the company's field program manager.

"We were right in and around, east, west, north and south of Calgary," Walton said. "We were flying for approximately one hour prior to the development of the storm. Then, we stayed with it for the duration in and around Calgary."

The hailstorm dented countless vehicles and damaged homes and businesses, including the glass rooftop greenhouses at the University of Calgary.

The 15-year-old Weather Modification Inc. is paid by a consortium of insurance firms, which banded together as the Alberta Severe Weather Management Society in an effort to reduce the cost of claims associated with hail damage.
ImageCloud seeding planes were in the skies on Monday when Calgary got pounded with huge hail stones. (CBC)

Three meteorologists in Olds monitor weather systems from roughly Lacombe to High River, sending the four planes up — two from Calgary and two from Red Deer — when they spot a potential hailstorm.

"What we're trying to do is locate areas of what we call new development," said Walton.

"All we can do is reduce and minimize. We do not prevent hail."

Calgary's unique geography makes cloud seeding more of an art than a science, said chief pilot Jody Fischer.

"One of the unique things here is the city is so close to the mountains that the storms, when they come off the mountains, they're right there," Fischer said. "So, you've got to be there earlier than a lot of other places."

Read more:http://www.cbc.ca/canada/calgary/story/2010/07/14/calgary-hail-storm-cloud-seeding-planes.html#ixzz0twNR3e9D


The link has even a video:
http://www.cbc.ca/canada/calgary/story/2010/07/14/calgary-hail-storm-cloud-seeding-planes.html


The conspiracy comment hahahaha conspiracy??? hahahaha

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at 12:05 AM ETPlenty of weather modification aerosol's in Edmonton too and plenty of military experiments too.

But I got plenty of pics. planes with normal contrails right beside 50+ Kilometer long aerosol trails. I also got plenty of serious wave )))) and checker ### patterned cloud pics and some that seem affected by conductivity or electricity & some that seem to blur or vibrate.

I've watched clouds seem to break apart in unnatural ways as if scattered or dissolved by energy in a matter of 15 minutes

I don't give a crap what anybody says. I believe my eyes and I got plenty of pics

http://tinypic.com/userstuff.php?u=vGWENsIyqOIPGISQDZ%2BpbQ%3D%3D

Read more: http://www.cbc.ca/canada/calgary/story/ ... z0twOcuoFX
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Re: Cloud-seeding planes - on CBC news

Postby vinnied » Jul 17th, 2010, 8:38 am

Cloud seeding,
"a form of weather modification, is the attempt to change the amount or type of precipitation that falls from clouds, by dispersing substances into the air that serve as cloud condensation or ice nuclei, which alter the microphysical processes within the cloud. The usual intent is to increase precipitation (rain or snow), but hail and fog suppression are also widely practiced in airports".


Cloud seeding isn't all that new obviously, that company in Alberta said they've been around what was it, 15 years? And planes aren't always used. China used it for the Olympics there, shot from cannons. But a lot of the contrails, or chemtrails people are talking about, are seen when there are no clouds to seed or none in the foreseeable future. with an absolute clear sky.
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Re: Cloud-seeding planes - on CBC news

Postby kompili » Jul 17th, 2010, 9:27 am

They are now using something new to make the clouds. New technology. Time to bring this subject out of the Nefarious Plots, Chilling Conspiracies & Inbound UFOs so everyone can see and know what is going on up in the skies. Any kind of chemicals being sprayed is not good for our health.
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Re: Cloud-seeding planes - on CBC news

Postby kompili » Jul 17th, 2010, 10:17 am

They are using Silver Iodide to seed clouds. Is it good for us. I think not.

The Office of Environment, Health and Safety, UC Berkeley, rates silver iodide as a Class C, non-soluble, inorganic, hazardous chemical that pollutes water and soil.(8) It has been found to be highly toxic to fish, livestock and humans.(6,7,8,9) Numerous medical articles demonstrate that humans absorb silver iodide through the lungs, nose, skin, and GI tract.(7,8,9) Mild toxicity can cause GI irritation, renal and pulmonary lesions, and mild argyria (blue or black discoloration of the skin). Severe toxicity can result in hemorrhagic gastroenteritis, shock, enlarged heart, severe argyria, and death by respiratory depression.(8)


Moreover, a key manufacturer of silver iodide for weather modification, Deepwater Chemicals, warns of potential health effects of silver iodide in their Material Safety Data Sheet as follows:


Chronic Exposure/Target Organs: Chronic ingestion of iodides may produce “iodism”, which may be manifested by skin rash, running nose, headache and irritation of the mucous membranes. Weakness, anemia, loss of weight and general depression may also occur. Chronic inhalation or ingestion may cause argyria characterized by blue-gray discoloration of the eyes, skin and mucous membranes. Chronic skin contact may cause permanent discoloration of the skin.(10

I wonder what the military is spraying and what for?
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Re: Cloud-seeding planes - on CBC news

Postby Bejvas » Jul 17th, 2010, 10:23 am

well well well, one of the controversies has been publicly clarified on the article above, so yes, they're spraying something, and these are not normal contrails we see all the time crossing the skies around here and everywhere (except for the last few days, that they're doing it over the mountains, and we can't see the planes only the artificial clouds moving over the cities in the Okanagan), and yes, they have been doing and experimenting for years on weather control.

Now that this point has been made public and its on the media already, we should talk about if are they telling everything about what they're doing, because this is just the tip of the iceberg in my opinion.

Corporations, power, money, military, they hide most things from the eyes of the public, and do what they please for their greed and control.

If this technology was used only for the good of people like they're trying to say on the article, on how they saved Calgary from getting huge hail falling over the city, then it would be a great thing. Like here they made it rain for a long extended period of time, which compensated the extended winter drought. But is it all for the good of people? or for the good of their own pockets?

I don't believe it is for good, and they're spraying things over our heads, things we're breathing, and eating with our vegetables and fruits, and drinking with our water, and all these artificial agents can't be good for our health.

Kompili, don't worry, it doesn't matter if things are shaved into the conspiracy threads, people can read them anyway, and the ones who don't want to see or believe, won't anyway, for they prefer to keep in denial.
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Re: Cloud-seeding planes - on CBC news

Postby WhatThe » Jul 17th, 2010, 10:28 am

Come on you guys give us some real proof. How about daily photos correlated with atmospheric conditions, flight paths and radar plots.(which by the way is available on YLW's website) and satellite imagery. All you got is some utube videos and some dubious links. This would be such a grand scheme there would be whistle blowing like you've never heard before. So where is the real proof? And it's not by "just looking up" cause I do all the time and I don't see what you guys are seeing. In fact what I see is explained by pure meteorlogical means.
Cloud seeding is not a conspiracy but a tool

you're seeing what you WANT to see.
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Re: Cloud-seeding planes - on CBC news

Postby kompili » Jul 17th, 2010, 10:35 am

Some people are in such denial they only want to believe what they want, even when the proof is right in front of them. They have companies set up that are being paid to seed clouds. I think you should do a bit more research.
If Cloud seeding is not a conspiracy but a tool why are so many people in denial that there is any type of spraying going on up in the sky.
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Postby WhatThe » Jul 17th, 2010, 10:53 am

kompili wrote:Some people are in such denial they only want to believe what they want, even when the proof is right in front of them. They have companies set up that are being paid to seed clouds. I think you should do a bit more research.
If Cloud seeding is not a conspiracy but a tool why are so many people in denial that there is any type of spraying going on up in the sky.

I should do more research? You're kidding right? Silveriodide has been used fir the last fifty years, it's no secret. What you guys are talking about is a world wide "phenominon" so againwheres the documened legitmate proof?
Right, you don't have any. You want to get the wordout but with supposition and unscientific reasoning. Absolutely nothing concrete.
I'm willng to listen but until someone documents the procedures I listed earlier, real tangible proof, it's all pie in the sky
as for your question, as soon as you say chemtrail they tune you out, you say silveriodide cloud seeding they say oh ya I've heard of that, didn't they do that at beijings olympics? It's not a nefarious plot.
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Re: Cloud-seeding planes - on CBC news

Postby Bejvas » Jul 17th, 2010, 10:55 am

If proofs of what they're REALLY DOING was available directly from the source, then we would be living in a very straight forward society, where everybody would be full of good intentions. But that's not truth.

So, the only thing we can do is to question things until more information comes out on the media.

It is pointless to keep asking us for proofs when you know nobody has access to these proofs except for what our own eyes see, and our hearts feel that there is something wrong with what they're doing.
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Re: Cloud-seeding planes - on CBC news

Postby Bejvas » Jul 17th, 2010, 10:58 am

why do you have to get so angry at people that are questioning what's happening and the effects that its causing to us and the environment? if you need proofs other than your own eyes and heart, then you're looking for something almost impossible, for the corporations, and military government power are not going to provide you with that except for saying that is all good.

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kompili wrote:Some people are in such denial they only want to believe what they want, even when the proof is right in front of them. They have companies set up that are being paid to seed clouds. I think you should do a bit more research.
If Cloud seeding is not a conspiracy but a tool why are so many people in denial that there is any type of spraying going on up in the sky.

I should do more research? You're kidding right? Silveriodide has been used fir the last fifty years, it's no secret. What you guys are talking about is a world wide "phenominon" so againwheres the documened legitmate proof?
Right, you don't have any. You want to get the wordout but with supposition and unscientific reasoning. Absolutely nothing concrete.
I'm willng to listen but until someone documents the procedures I listed earlier, real tangible proof, it's all pie in the sky
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Re: Cloud-seeding planes - on CBC news

Postby WhatThe » Jul 17th, 2010, 11:14 am

I'm not angry, dumdfounded would be more apt. You don't need the source to tell you. All the tools one would need is available right from your computer and a camera and scanner. Like I said, daily photos, weather reports, atmospheric conditions, radar plots, and satelite imagery. All you need to do is correlate the available information. So where is that correlated info? Not anywhere I've seen. CTs are nothing if not persistant, I'm sure somebody would take the time to do this since they're so convinced. Unless of course you're saying that since you're convinced that's good enough, then why bother even posting about it all?
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Re: Cloud-seeding planes - on CBC news

Postby kompili » Jul 17th, 2010, 4:44 pm

WhatThe wrote:I'm not angry, dumdfounded would be more apt. You don't need the source to tell you. All the tools one would need is available right from your computer and a camera and scanner. Like I said, daily photos, weather reports, atmospheric conditions, radar plots, and satelite imagery. All you need to do is correlate the available information. So where is that correlated info? Not anywhere I've seen. CTs are nothing if not persistant, I'm sure somebody would take the time to do this since they're so convinced. Unless of course you're saying that since you're convinced that's good enough, then why bother even posting about it all?


Here is a great site for all this information you are seeking. Have fun, and I hope you learn something.

http://www.angelfire.com/mn/kanuck/
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Postby Bejvas » Jul 17th, 2010, 10:30 pm

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Re: Cloud-seeding planes - on CBC news

Postby Bejvas » Jul 17th, 2010, 10:42 pm

I wonder why they didn't use that same wonderful technology they used in Calgary to prevent the ice balls from falling over Ontario, oh yes, that's right, I forgot they do different experiments on different places for good measure. :dyinglaughing:

By the way, these look perfectly normal clouds to me, what do you think Kompili? I see them all the time :dyinglaughing:

Intense storms in Ontario and Quebec

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The skies went from sunny to dark in minutes across widespread areas in southern and eastern Ontario, as well as southern Quebec, as isolated severe thunderstorms pushed through these regions on Saturday.

Tornado warnings were briefly issued in the afternoon in Cornwall, Lancaster, Maxville and Alexandria, Ontario, and Huntingdon, Quebec.

Police in Smiths Falls, Ontario, reported some minor damage from a possible tornado in Berwick, northwest of Cornwall.

The storms in Ontario were triggered when a cold front collided with the warm air mass caused by daytime heating, explains Weather Network meteorologist Dayna Vettese. Meanwhile, in Quebec, the trigger was a collision between an unstable air mass and a warm air mass, says Vettese.

Hot and humid conditions prevail in central Canada this weekend. The humidity was making it feel like the high-30s across southern Ontario, and the low-40s in the Windsor area, before the cold front cooled the region down slightly.

Thunderstorms brought wind gusts of 90 km/h, large hail about 2 cm in diameter and torrential downpours.

Stormy weather is expected again in southern Ontario on Sunday evening, particularly along the shore of Lake Huron. An isolated tornado is possible.
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Re: Cloud-seeding planes - on CBC news

Postby Bejvas » Jul 18th, 2010, 3:58 pm

Another great video with witnesses all over the world talking and showing their own observations about the spraying and weather modification...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-IaJwpdpEWY&feature=player_embedded
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