Osama Dun Livin.

[Roadster]

You should mention there are a few graphic pics near the end.
It was posted already but not a crime to do it again, some mighta missed the one before.

[Woodenhead]

I figured the warning at the beginning of the sequence was ample enough. Sorry!

[Roadster]

Probably is if people are watching for it, don't be sorry, Just thought someone might get upset cos the last three are pretty gruesome. Doesnt bother me but some it might, I think.

[grammafreddy]

Oops ... just reported ... two blasts have been heard in Abbottabad - speculation that the bin Laden house is no more.

[grammafreddy]

New satellite photos of Osama bin Laden's compound in Pakistan, where he was killed May 1 in a military raid, offer a revealing glimpse of the operation's aftermath, including roadblocks leading to the complex and the disabled helicopter thought to be part of a top secret U.S. defense project.

The images, released by the commercial satellite and aerial imagery provider GeoEye, zero in on the bin Laden compound in Abbottabad, Pakistan. The photos show no apparent structural damage to the buildings, but the remains of one U.S. Navy SEAL transport helicopter can be seen.

The helicopter has been the subject of intense scrutiny in recent days after photos of its tail-end were circulated online following the 40-minute night raid. Some experts have speculated that the vehicle may be a highly modified helicopter that is part of one of the military's secret "black stealth projects".



This image shows Osama bin Laden's refuge home with no apparent structural damage, the remains of an unidentified helicopter within the compound perimeter and four evenly spaced road blocks on the road leading to the property.
CREDIT: GeoEye

http://www.space.com/11605-secret-helic ... laden.html

[averagejoe]

Whats this all about?

Osama Bin Laden: Pakistan's scepticism over videos.

The release of video footage seized from Osama bin Laden's compound in northern Pakistan was part of the continuing effort by the US to convince doubters that the al-Qaeda leader was killed in last Monday's raid.

But people in Abbottabad seem sceptical about the authenticity of the films, as Orla Guerin discovered when she took to the streets of the town where bin Laden was said to have been hiding.


http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-south-asia-13329078

[averagejoe]

New satellite photos of Osama bin Laden's compound in Pakistan, where he was killed May 1 in a military raid, offer a revealing glimpse of the operation's aftermath, including roadblocks leading to the complex and the disabled helicopter thought to be part of a top secret U.S. defense project.

The images, released by the commercial satellite and aerial imagery provider GeoEye, zero in on the bin Laden compound in Abbottabad, Pakistan. The photos show no apparent structural damage to the buildings, but the remains of one U.S. Navy SEAL transport helicopter can be seen.

The helicopter has been the subject of intense scrutiny in recent days after photos of its tail-end were circulated online following the 40-minute night raid. Some experts have speculated that the vehicle may be a highly modified helicopter that is part of one of the military's secret "black stealth projects".



This image shows Osama bin Laden's refuge home with no apparent structural damage, the remains of an unidentified helicopter within the compound perimeter and four evenly spaced road blocks on the road leading to the property.
CREDIT: GeoEye

GrammaFreddy, Look at your picture of the compound and then look at the CNN Picture #2. Can you show in your picture, where the 90 degree corner in the top corner of my picture?
And also in your compound picture, it looks like the major burnt part of the wreakage is a garden and in my picture it looks like it's in dirt?

http://www.cnn.com/2011/WORLD/asiapcf/0 ... tml?hpt=T1

[averagejoe]

GrammaFreddy, I like this picture of the double wall. Where is this double wall in your Compound picture?

http://twitpic.com/4sm6r2

[grammafreddy]

LOL - not only that - where's all those buildings behind the far wall??

I think the satellite image has the wrong place, don't you?

[averagejoe]

LOL - not only that - where's all those buildings behind the far wall??

I think the satellite image has the wrong place, don't you?

Good observation GrammaFreddy! I love when they post pictures and things don't match up. Just like the 9/11 pictures and video's.

[grammafreddy]

http://www.space.com/11543-osama-bin-la ... hotos.html

Nice clear image from satellites but I really think they have pegged the wrong location. This location was done by the sat company, not the government.

[peaceseeker]

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People, it's time some of you started pulling back the layers...

GHOSTS OF SEPTEMBER 11TH
http://www.collapsenet.com/free-resourc ... ember-11th
by Michael C. Ruppert
© Copyright 2011, Collapsenet, Inc. Please Distribute Widely

May 5, 2011, 1400 PST, SEBASTOPOL – I have personally interrogated underage criminal suspects who could lie better than White House Press Secretary Jay Carney. It has been four days since the P.T. Barnum (“There’s a sucker born every minute”) proclamation of the death of Osama bin Laden (OBL). President Obama’s account of the firefight has had zero credibility from the outset and it continues to fray and wear thin as each day passes.

First, bin Laden was shooting. Then he wasn’t. Now, no pictures are going to be released. Ridiculous arguments on CNN, by House members stating that releasing photos would inflame and invite retaliation, flatly contradict what I suspect every grunt who ever earned a Combat Infantry Badge would say:

“Release the damn pictures. Give us some to hand out to the “indigs”. We got our man and that’s a message to anyone who would mess with us…Hoo Ah!”

However, as with 9-11, in order to fully appreciate the stupidity of the Obama Administration’s ploy it is only necessary to focus on one glaring inconsistency. With our focus on this inconsistency, demand an answer to it and bring down a house of cards that is already falling. This approach is essentially the same path I have taken with the War Game exercises that were being conducted on September 11th. The issue that follows is to focus on what to do with this inconsistency.

This also raises a fair question: Is 9-11 back on the table for me?

The answer is yes and no. Especially when “no” applies to any expectation that a competent, trustworthy court with jurisdiction would act with a budget and full approval of the U.S. Congress and the American people to actually reveal the truth and take action.

It is yes when, as you will hear below, responsible and credible academics and journalists see the direct connection between September 11,2001 and where we are today… and where we are headed as a planet.

This is because it is not possible to accurately understand or respond to Collapse without “seeing” all the criminality that led to it. Moreover, it is not possible to effectively deal with Collapse until the criminal behavior has been identified, addressed, and effectively terminated. Otherwise, the human race is left to confront Collapse as it is now; on an ad hoc basis, without any participation of sincere, honest and focused governmental bodies.

There is a massive awakening-taking place globally. However, the difference between this and what could be accomplished if governments were actively and helpfully involved is… maybe three billion human lives.

Now, back to Osama bin Laden.

Let’s start with what I consider the most-obvious proof that the Obama administration is lying. It comes from a world-class microbiologist who allowed me to use this quote on condition of anonymity. The simple proof of his accuracy is to just ask any microbiologist experienced in DNA sequencing about his statement. There are tens of thousands of them around the world.

Here is what he wrote me:

I am a molecular biologist and I've built a lucrative career in human genetics. I have run one of the world's largest and most productive DNA genotyping facilities and now I am helping to build the global market for clinical whole human genome sequencing for the world's largest human genome sequencing facility. I have worked with the absolute best genome scientists from the military, academia, medicine, and industry from around the world. I know DNA. And, one thing I know about DNA is that you cannot, repeat CANNOT: take a tissue sample from a shot-in-the-noggin-dead-guy in a north central Pakistan special forces op, extract the DNA, prepare the DNA for assay, test the DNA, curate the raw DNA sequence data, assemble the reads or QC the genotype, compare the tested DNA to a reference, and make a positive identity determination…. all in 12 hours- let alone transport the tissue samples all the places they'd need to have gone in order to get this done.

Some might try to argue that ruggedized, field ready kits could test a DNA sample- which is true if one is attempting to determine the CLASS of a bacteria. It is not true if one is trying to determine the specific identity of an individual. Any way you slice it, the real work would require days, and I find it unlikely (although not impossible) that an aircraft carrier would have a laboratory outfitted for this kind of work… it is not the Starship Enterprise out there.

So, maybe they did get Osama. But there is no f***ing way they had any genetic proof of it by the time they dumped the body over the side. What is it that we are not supposed to see with all this distraction? I think the French call it "legerdemain".

The only things necessary to prove or disprove this statement is to question anyone who is an expert on DNA identification.

Two more examples illustrate the lack of credibility enjoyed by the U.S. government. The first is from Tuesday’s (5-3-2011) World News Desk. The second is from today’s (5-5-2011).

Example 1

White House backtracks on how Osama bin Laden died in US raid -- Telegraph

"Claims that the al-Qaeda leader had died while firing an automatic weapon at commandos were withdrawn, with President Barack Obama’s spokesman admitting “he was unarmed”. A dramatic description of bin Laden using his wife as a “human shield” and forcing her to sacrifice her life also proved to be false. The woman was still alive and was taken into custody with several of the terrorist’s children.

In an embarrassing climb-down, Barack Obama’s press secretary, Jay Carney, admitted that the previous version of events — which came mostly from the chief US counter-terrorism adviser, John Brennan — had been put out “with great haste”.

The about-turn left the US open to accusations of a cover-up and led to calls for video footage of the raid in Abbottabad, Pakistan, and images of bin Laden’s body to be released to end conspiracy theories."

Example 2

Even the Pentagon is staying away from the White House circus. Here’s a quote from a DoD publication. The story’s title? “The Bin Laden Information Drought”.

No one is complaining that bin Laden is dead. But every time Washington has to change details about what happened, it damages its credibility on the whole story. And instead of continuing to feed the ravenous reporters clamoring for information, officials are starving them: The Pentagon today cancelled its regular briefing for the second day in a row, even as the White House refers some questions about the bin Laden story to the Defense Department.

Now I am not going to do what we found necessary to do after 9-11, by making a huge (ever-growing) list of the galaxy of inconsistencies available. I am not going to repeat the work of myself and others, like Michel Chossudovsky and Paul Thompson, on the mythological intelligence construct that was the legend of OBL. That is all meticulously documented in “Crossing the Rubicon”.

But as the world continues to ask the obvious questions and the story continues to fray, I note that the indignant refusal by Barack Obama to produce a photo is really setting off alarms. In the past, it was an essential foreign requirement to produce death photos of Josef Goebbels, Herman Goering and Saddam Hussein. No one thought that unseemly. Granted their bodies were all intact, but I should probably note that the credibility of the United States Government was – like the dollar – more intact then.

I saw a “crawl” on CNN stating that George W. Bush declined to appear at Ground Zero with President Obama for a planned extravaganza today. Even W has got enough sense to avoid that black hole. And today we see that apparently the plans for a PR extravaganza were quashed by someone telling the President to “Shut the f*** up” and keep it simple. Obama laid a wreath, shut his mouth and got the Hell out of Dodge.

The more Barack Obama beats the 9-11 drum, the more he is going to invite a *bleep* slap from people and even governments around the world who understand that the 9-11 story has been a lie since before the attacks occurred.

The following interview, which I gave to a German radio station catering to intellectuals and academics, about a week before the announcement of OBL’s death, is real evidence that much of the world is waiting to pounce on 9-11 anyway, especially as the rubble threatens to bury us.

You see people will accept lies if their lives get better. As their lives get worse, they will inevitably ask questions. And as their lives disintegrate, they will start looking for both answers and suspects. That was and is the swimming pool full of gasoline that Barack Obama is lighting matches in.

If the United States of America does not immediately announce a massive drawdown in Afghanistan, the world will keep asking questions about OBL because our lives will be getting worse, not better, by the day. And every time Mr. Obama opens his mouth about 9-11, he pours more gasoline into the pool and asks for another box of matches.

It was not my choice. Barack Obama has placed 9-11 back on the table again. Mainstream media, of course, can't say Jack Diddly about this theater of the absurd, even though they’ve been cornered into asking a few pseudo-hardball questions. They are, after all, criminally culpable for the endorsement and concealment of something they damn well knew was a lie, murder, and high treason ten years ago.

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The German radio interview which follows was recorded approximately a week before Barack Obama announced the killing of OBL. Within a few days, we will be bringing you an interview with Radio New Zealand that adds more to the picture.

MIKE RUPPERT DISCUSSES 9-11 A IN DETAIL FOR THE FIRST TIME IN SEVEN YEARS – ACADEMIC PANEL SEES CLEAR CONNECTION TO CURRENT COLLAPSE

Ganser Ruppert

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0KGfq_X3dVQ



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Former LA Police Officer Mike Ruppert Confronts CIA Director John Deutch on Drug Trafficking

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[Phoenix Within]

It all makes sense now!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=13nR33JtgiI&feature=player_embedded

[canadman]

In advance I'll apologize if this theory has already been posted.

Disregarding, for the sake of argument, the speculation that Osama Bin Laden is not, in fact, dead or wasn't killed by Navy Seals during the reported operation a week or so ago, if in fact Osama Bin Laden is dead and was killed during this operation there is one odd fact, that's been discussed to death; The photos have not been released.

The question that's been asked repeatedly is, "Why not?".

It's been argued that the pictures of Bin Laden are simply too gruesome and may insight a greater degree of hatred and violence from his Islamic supporters.

Why would that be true unless there was something in those pictures that may be exceptionally inflammatory. Keep in mind nobody ever worried about inciting hatred releasing the death pictures of Saddam Hussein or his sons. So what could be so extraordinary about these photos?

It has been reported that the images of Bin Laden show him with a gaping head wound above the left eye, one that reveals a large fragment of his skull displaced and brain matter visible.

I am not a forensics expert by any means, but as I understand it, entrance wounds are usually not extraordinary. Exit wounds however, are. Often an exit wound, from my understanding, shows considerable trauma. In fact, this is often how the direction of a gunshot wound is determined.

We've seen images of the three other dead combatants from that raid, all three shot with the same caliber weapons used on Bin Laden. In those images, all three victims present with small entrance wounds, in some cases to the face/head, that appear as little more than small, clean bullet holes.

If Bin Laden had been shot from the front, presumably his wound, over his left eye, would be consistent with the other victims' wounds.

If, however, Bin Laden's wound shows massive head trauma, with skull and brain matter blown away and visible, does this not indicate an exit wound? On the FRONT of his head? Would this not then suggest he was shot from behind?

A shot from behind, especially after the target his already been struck in the chest (from the front), would suggest a possible execution style killing wouldn't it?

Perhaps in the White House's excitement, the initial decision was to release the photos (The Monday & Tuesday morning following the raid). Could it be that 'experts', on further review, realized that the photos would clearly show Bin Laden had been intentionally, and precisely executed rather than killed spontaneously during the raid?

Could it be that after realizing how incriminating this photo would be, the White House reversed its decision because that kind of admission WOULD most definitely exacerbate reaction?

Just a thought. I don't doubt Bin Laden is dead. But something is very odd about the lack of transparency in all of this. President Obama just came through an exhausting and frustrating controversy over the lack of transparency over his birth certificate, ridiculous as that was. Surely, if ever there was a time to be ultra-transparent, it would be now. After all, it's not as though the extremists don't know Bin Laden was killed. How much worse could the consequences of transparent disclosure of the truth, through releasing what would be pretty conclusive pictures of the body, be? Unless they simply can't reveal the pictures.

Thoughts?

[peaceseeker]

... How much worse could the consequences of transparent disclosure of the truth, through releasing what would be pretty conclusive pictures of the body, be?

Thoughts?

There is no doubt in my mind that OBL is dead (his death was reported years ago). However, I highly doubt he was 'killed' in what appears to be a staged event. An event that will undoubtedly help Obama's approval rating (Osama bin Laden dead: Obama ratings set to soar)...along with the pulling on the heart strings of those still duped by the 'official story' of 9/11. Perhaps this was in fact the true objective?

The reason there hasn't been a 'transparent disclosure of the truth' is because it would aid in revealing a great lie. I cannot stress enough that people start pulling back the layers of lies attached to the events of 9/11 and recognize it for what it truly was - a false-flag operation orchestrated by criminals within the Bush admn along with various intelligence agencies (CIA, NSA, Mossad). Until this realization happens, and those truly responsible and/or complicit in the ongoing cover-up are brought to justice, such heinous acts are bound to be repeated.

viewtopic.php?f=52&t=31952&start=330#p983772

ETA

Obama Says "Justice Has Been Done": Bin Laden Scholar Says No
May 6, 2011, CNBC News (NBC's Business News Channel)
http://www.cnbc.com/id/42929478

President Obama, speaking of the operation to kill Osama bin Laden, said: "Justice has been done." It has been widely assumed that, if bin Laden is now dead, the person most responsible for the 9/11 attacks has been brought to justice. But the US government has never provided evidence that the attacks were carried out by bin Laden and his al-Qaeda organization. In September 2001, Secretary of State Colin Powell promised to provide this evidence, but the next day recanted, saying "most of [the evidence] is classified." In October, Prime Minister Tony Blair provided evidence that bin Laden and al-Qaeda planned and executed the 9/11 attacks. But he added: "This document does not purport to provide a prosecutable case against Osama Bin Laden in a court of law." The FBI's acts that made bin Laden a "Most Wanted Terrorist" do not include the 9/11 attacks. The FBI's chief of investigative publicity explained: "The FBI has seen no hard evidence connecting Bin Laden to 9/11." Could al-Qaeda have carried out the attacks? Scientists for 9/11 Truth views the rapid, symmetrical, straight-down collapses of the Towers and nearby WTC 7 as consistent only with controlled demolition. And 1500 members of Architects and Engineers for 9/11 Truth agree: The 9/11 attacks were not the work of al-Qaeda.

Note: Please read this critically important press release on CNBC by WantToKnow.info team member David Ray Griffin in its entirety. Nobel Peace Prize nominee Dr. David Ray Griffin's 2009 book, Osama bin Laden: Dead or Alive? presented compelling evidence that bin Laden died in December 2001 -- prompting a BBC documentary of the same name. Griffin is founder of the soon to be announced 9/11 Consensus Panel, and was named among the New Statesman's "50 People Who Matter Today". For an abundance of reliable, verifiable news articles, videos, and more showing major deception by government officials on 9/11, click here.




Osama bin Laden dead: Blackout during raid on bin Laden compound
May 4, 2011, The Telegraph (One of the UK's leading newspapers)
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldne ... pound.html

Leon Panetta, director of the CIA, revealed there was a 25 minute blackout during which the live feed from cameras mounted on the helmets of the US special forces was cut off. A photograph released by the White House appeared to show President Barack Obama and his aides in the situation room watching the action as it unfolded. In fact they had little knowledge of what was happening in the compound. In an interview with PBS, Mr Panetta said: "Once those teams went into the compound I can tell you that there was a time period of almost 20 or 25 minutes where we really didn't know just exactly what was going on. We had some observation of the approach there, but we did not have direct flow of information as to the actual conduct of the operation itself as they were going through the compound." The President only knew the mission was successful after the Navy Seals commander heard the word “Geronimo” on the radio, a code word from commandos reporting that they had killed bin Laden. The absence of footage of the raid has led to conflicting reports about what happened in the compound.

Note: The White House photo was fake and the original news was quite distorted. Hmmmm. Who do we trust here? WantToKnow team member David Ray Griffin's book establishing the likelihood that Osama bin Laden died in December 2001, Osama bin Laden: Dead or Alive?, is available here. For a brief summary of reliable information from major media sources raising serious questions about what happened on 9/11, click here.




Osama Bin Laden never charged for 9/11
May 2, 2011, International Business Times
http://m.ibtimes.com/osama-bin-laden-ne ... 40099.html

Osama Bin Laden's death is being celebrated, and everyone seems to repeat the old conspiracy theory that he was indeed the mastermind behind the terror attacks of 9/11. But that was never proven, and there is not even evidence hinting at such a connection according to the FBI. Osama Bin Laden was never formally charged, because the U.S. Federal Bureau of Investigation didn't deliver the necessary evidence to the Department of Justice. Read ... what Rex Tomb, FBI Director of Investigative Publicity, stated in 2006 about the FBI's position: “The FBI gathers evidence. Once evidence is gathered, it is turned over to the Department of Justice. The Department of Justice then decides whether it has enough evidence to present to a federal grand jury. In the case of the 1998 United States Embassies being bombed, bin Laden has been formally indicted and charged by a grand jury. He has not been formally indicted and charged in connection with 9/11 because the FBI has no hard evidence connecting bin Laden to 9/11." The connection between Bin Laden and the 9/11 attacks was made by the Bush-Cheney administration, [on] the morning of the attacks, before the first tower even collapsed. Nearly ten years later, after intensive investigation, a government commission, two wars and the interrogation under torture of some 750 people detained in Guantanamo Bay without charges, no hard evidence could be found that would confirm the initial allegation.

Note: The International Business Times is an online global business newspaper, published in thirteen editions in twelve countries across eight languages. It is among the top-ten online business newspapers in the world. WantToKnow team member David Ray Griffin's book establishing the likelihood that Osama bin Laden died in December 2001, Osama bin Laden: Dead or Alive?, is available here.