September 11

[Fancy]

Pays to get the quotes right.

Also better photos on this thread:

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[atenbacon]

Look at the second picture....

I see, you are basing your entire opinion on a single picture... how ever can I argue when faced with such overwhelming evidence.

<sarcasm>Well done.. I raise a glass to your superior investigative skills.</sarcasm>

[zzontar]

I see, you are basing your entire opinion on a single picture... how ever can I argue when faced with such overwhelming evidence.

<sarcasm>Well done.. I raise a glass to your superior investigative skills.</sarcasm>

That's all I can go by for certain is pictures and that if you take a quarter of the mass away from 13 floors in a building that size the building would collapse on that quarter from the weight stress alone. What are you basing your opinion on?

[Fancy]

Probably the other pictures.

[zzontar]

Probably the other pictures.

Well, post one that shows a quarter of the mass on 13 floors gone then, is that so hard to figure out?

[Fancy]

Well, post one that shows a quarter of the mass on 13 floors gone then, is that so hard to figure out?

For you probably since I already posted the link to where the photos are: (page 28)

viewtopic.php?f=52&t=22316&start=465

[zzontar]

For you probably since I already posted the link to where the photos are: (page 28)

viewtopic.php?f=52&t=22316&start=465

Couldn't find one, thanks for wasting more of my time. Seeing as that's all you do all day is cut and paste, feel free to post one.

[Fancy]

Easier to post the link that includes multiple photos - all you have to do is click on the link. Ask a moderator for help if need be.

[zzontar]

Easier to post the link that includes multiple photos - all you have to do is click on the link. Ask a moderator for help if need be.

Well then, post the link and tell me whereabouts the picture is that I'm looking for. If you need a mod to hold your hand, ask one. Getting me to look up something to prove your point is insane to begin with.

[Fancy]

If you don't want to look at the WTC7 thread, fine by me.

[zzontar]

If you don't want to look at the WTC7 thread, fine by me.

Super, then I go back to my stance on how there are no pictures showing a quarter of the mass of 13 floors missing. Pretty pathetic that you find the other thread, find the page you're looking for, find the pics you want, yet you couldn't post them here even though that's all you do is copy and paste all day.

[Fancy]

No cross posting remember.

[atenbacon]

What are you basing your opinion on?

Common knowledge, eye witness accounts and photographic evidence. But by all means, please continue using a single photograph if it helps you to determine your opinion of the days events is correct. Feel free to discredit all other evidence, in fact, I expect it. I could waste my time trying to convince you to no avail, so just am posting two items and that is all I will bother with. Do with them as you please, it matters little to me.


Captain Chris Boyle
Engine 94 - 18 years

Boyle: ...on the north and east side of 7 it didn't look like there was any damage at all, but then you looked on the south side of 7 there had to be a hole 20 stories tall in the building, with fire on several floors. Debris was falling down on the building and it didn't look good.

Firehouse: When you looked at the south side, how close were you to the base of that side?

Boyle: I was standing right next to the building, probably right next to it.

Firehouse: When you had fire on the 20 floors, was it in one window or many?

Boyle: There was a huge gaping hole and it was scattered throughout there. It was a huge hole. I would say it was probably about a third of it, right in the middle of it. And so after Visconti came down and said nobody goes in 7, we said all right, we'll head back to the command post. We lost touch with him. I never saw him again that day.

[zzontar]

Common knowledge, eye witness accounts and photographic evidence. But by all means, please continue using a single photograph if it helps you to determine your opinion of the days events is correct. Feel free to discredit all other evidence, in fact, I expect it.

Common knowledge dictates that if you take a quarter of the mass away from 13 floors on a building that big, it will collapse on that quarter from the weight alone, if not please explain why. Now onto eyewitness accounts...

Firehouse: When you looked at the south side, how close were you to the base of that side?

Boyle: I was standing right next to the building, probably right next to it.

When you stand right next to a highrise and look straight up you can't tell how many windows need washing never mind how much damage is done internally... but I guess that's proof positive to you. Now onto photographic evidence... by all means, feel free to post some, unless you think talking about a picture is also proof positive.

[peaceseeker]

In this video Luke Rudkowski interviews FDNY member Rudy Dent who on the day of 9/11 was witness to the collapse of infamous World Trade Center 7. Rudy Dent - Vietnam War veteran, four year member of the NYPD and thirty-two year FDNY firefighter. As a firefighter on 9/11, he was at Ground Zero and was there when Building 7 came down. In this episode of 9/11 Free Fall, he relives his experience that day, recounting how he believes the buildings in New York were brought down in controlled demolitions.