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I'm not busted - that has nothing to do with her seeing the building fall - it was miscommunication that was explained years ago. Pretty lame to keep bringing that up - we've been through it numerous times.

What you said was the media "saw" a building fall before it did and that you said it was an illusion. Different circumstances.
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kompili wrote:Busted, you don't know much about 9/11 do you



Again, if this is a conspiracy, it just doesn't make sense that the BBC would know in advance that the building was going to collapse and then pre-record the news? It makes far more sense that they just had received poor information, probably like building 7 was in imminent danger of collapsing and that message got screwed up.
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Yes it was a slip up on their part, they gave themselves away, the reason was because they knew ahead of the time that the building was going to fall. Maybe with a crystal ball. :dyinglaughing:
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kompili wrote:Yes it was a slip up on their part, they gave themselves away, the reason was because they knew ahead of the time that the building was going to fall. Maybe with a crystal ball.

Ah, no they didn't. That was explained already numerous times. You obviously don't understand what can happen in a crisis when trying to relay information.
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Perhaps it was as simple as the information that was being relayed through the news presenter's earpiece was faster than the video feed was being played on the monitor.
Similar to the YouTube video presented by the CTs, where the lips didn't match the words being spoken that I had commented on previously and not defended by the CT faction. Did anyone make such a big deal about that evidence?........ NO. Do the CTs REALLY want to get into a "nit-picking" battle? I think, "NOT".
Can't we just focus on real/credible witnesses and scientific/provable/repeatable/documented/believable EVIDENCE, certified by impartial witnesses?
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This is a likely story if you really want to believe it, but I am a little bit smarter than that, I know when the wool is being pulled over my eyes.
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I personally don't like wool over my eyes - my eyes are wide open and I listen to logic.
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kompili wrote:This is a likely story if you really want to believe it, but I am a little bit smarter than that, I know when the wool is being pulled over my eyes.


What are you "a little bit smarter than"? What is you definition of a "that"? Just trying to set a base-line for my analyses.
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kompili wrote:This is a likely story if you really want to believe it, but I am a little bit smarter than that, I know when the wool is being pulled over my eyes.


And Unicorns are a likely story if you really want to believe it. Common sense and a little bit of thought says that this isn't the case though. The one thing CT'ers don't have is proof. They put a conclusion to supposition and conjecture, a possible answer to a question and then call that fact. Outside of any self generated Internet site, their science or methodology is considered useless.
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And what kind of proof do you have, government proof, I don't think this is proof if the conspirators are behind it.
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You are so fascinated with "government proof" but you do know they don't have control over everybody yet, right?
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I think some truth is pretty evident without being ridiculed - kompili brought up the philospher's saying a few years ago.

There's a lot of people critical of the original story but I don't see much headway being made.
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The CT sites like to publish partial statements that fit their viewpoint. Example what did Robert Baer is another well-known CIA veteran say about 9/11.

What the CT sites quote

“Did bin Laden act alone, through his own al-Qaida network, in launching the attacks? About that I'm far more certain and emphatic: no”


What Baer said next, is not part of any CT site

“Even before I left the CIA in late 1997, we had learned that Bin Laden had suggested to the Iranians that they drop their efforts to undermine central Asian governments and instead join him in a campaign against the United States.” In other words he thinks Iran not Bush and the CIA was in on it.


He endorsed a Griffin book but told Time:

I myself have felt the pull of the conspiracy theorists — who believe that 9/11 was an inside job, somehow pulled off by the U.S. government. For the record, I don't believe that the World Trade Center was brought down by our own explosives, or that a rocket, rather than an airliner, hit the Pentagon. I spent a career in the CIA trying to orchestrate plots, wasn't all that good at it, and certainly couldn't carry off 9/11. Nor could the real pros I had the pleasure to work with.


CT sites are notorious for quoting parts of what people say to back up their viewpoint. Anyone who believes a CT site without doing proper research is doing themselves a disservice and only proves that CTs only care about their viewpoint not the complete story.

I could post more examples of how PatriotsQuestion911 website only partially quotes the people they list, but doing ones own research provides a lot more satisfaction and shows one how CT sites manage their viewpoint.

Of course if one is to lazy to do their own research rather then just believing what they read on a CT site then continue with spreading misinformation, but be prepared to be challenged.
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Re: September 11

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Or after they have been threatened to say something else. Most times a good threat will change the story.
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