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Re: Earth Signs of Radical Change

Postby Bejvas » Jun 15th, 2012, 11:05 am

Bejvas wrote:Nebula, can you look a the bigger picture for once? there a LOTS of things happening around the world at ONCE, when disasters used to be not so often everywhere.

And another thing, the local disaster we are facing, is due to too much rain, and guess what? the chemtrails create lots of rain all over North America... that's why we're getting this freaking weather which is creating disasters. Sorry to bother you trying to make you look at the bigger picture, everything is perfectly normal.


Nebula wrote:It's difficult to discuss an issue with someone who believes in fantasies.

Bad weather has been around forever. Do you have evidence that these so-called disasters didn't occur as often in the past? No, of course not. You simply state that as if it is fact.

There is no such thing as chemtrails and, whether you like it or not, it has rained in the past. In fact, it rained long before there were ever jet aircraft in the skies. I have no idea why you think recent rains are anything out of the ordinary.

I suspect this all results from living in fear and wishing it to continue. May the boogeyman be with you.


the funny thing is that you love this part of the forum don't you? if you and some other people who come here to make ridiculous of what is said here, really thought that way, wouldn't bother coming here to discuss these subjects, but it might get to you guys in someway, because you keep coming back
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Re: Earth Signs of Radical Change

Postby Nebula » Jun 15th, 2012, 11:12 am

Bejvas wrote:Nebula, can you look a the bigger picture for once? there a LOTS of things happening around the world at ONCE,when disasters used to be not so often everywhere.

And another thing, the local disaster we are facing, is due to too much rain, and guess what? the chemtrails create lots of rain all over North America... that's why we're getting this freaking weather which is creating disasters. Sorry to bother you trying to make you look at the bigger picture, everything is perfectly normal.


The Great Galveston Hurricane
Galveston, Texas
September 8, 1900

This unnamed hurricane caused the greatest loss of life of any Hurricane in recorded US history. First tracked in Cuba as a tropical storm on Sept. 3, it hit Galveston as a Category 4 Hurricane. An estimated 6,000 - 12,000 people died as storm tides of eight to 15 feet washed over the barrier island. The tragedy was documented in the recent book, Isaac’s Storm.

My goodness. A very deadly hurricane, in 1900... 112 years ago... before jet aircraft... before Bejavas' chemtrails. Whowuddathunkit?
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Re: Earth Signs of Radical Change

Postby Nebula » Jun 15th, 2012, 11:16 am

San Felipe-Okeechobee Hurricane
Florida
September 16 - 17, 1928

The fourth strongest Hurricane to hit the US mainland caused a lake surge on the inland Lake Okeechobee in Florida that rose as high as nine feet, flooding nearby towns. A total of 1,836 people died in Florida; another 312 died in Puerto RIco, and 18 in the Bahamas.

The Long Island Express
North Carolina to New York
September 20 - 22, 1938

The Long Island Express roared past North Carolina on September 20, and hit Long Island on September 22 as a Category 3. Storm surges of 12 - 16 feet killed at least 600.

The Great Labor Day Storm
Florida
September 2, 1935

One of just three Category 5 Hurricanes to make landfall in the US, the Great Labor Day Storm was responsible for 423 deaths in Florida. Most of those occurred when a train carrying World War I veterans was overturned. The Hurricane also was notable for providing the setting for the Humphrey Bogart - Lauren Bacall movie, Key Largo.

Hurricane Audrey
Texas and Louisiana
June 26, 1957

Audrey was a Category 4 that caused eight to 12 foot storm surges that moved inland as far as 25 miles through low-lying areas of Louisiana. The storm is blamed for 390 deaths.

The Great Miami Hurricane
Florida
September 18, 1926

The Great Miami Hurricane struck Miami directly with little warning. The town of Moore Haven on the south side of Lake Okeechobee was completely flooded by lake surge from the hurricane. Hundreds of people in Moore Haven alone were killed by this surge, which left behind floodwaters in the town for weeks afterward. The Red Cross lists the death toll at 373, although the total may be higher because much of the population at the time was either new, or transient, with no one to account for them.

The Grand Isle Hurricane
Louisiana
September 20, 1909

This Category 4 storm struck the mainland between Baton Rouge and New Orleans. It is blamed for at least 350 deaths.

The Atlantic-Gulf Hurricane
Florida, Texas
September 10 - 14, 1919

This hurricane struck the Keys as a Category 4, and Texas as a Category 3. US mainland losses are recorded as 287, but more than 500 more people apparently were lost at sea as the storm destroyed ten ships.

Unnamed Storm
New Orleans, Louisiana
September 30, 1915

In a frightening precursor to 2005’s Hurricane Katrina, this unnamed Category 4 Storm flooded Lake Pontchartrain, causing it to overflow its banks and killing 275 people.

Unnamed Storm
Galveston, Texas
August 5, 1915

In spite of a seawall built following the devastating 1900 storm, this Category 4 hurricane once again devastated the city of Galveston, Texas. It killed 275.

That's just from a list of the 10 deadliest hurricanes, folks. In that list, (of which there are actually 11), 9 of the deadliest hurricanes in recorded history happened before 1950. But some people say the weather is bad these days and try to blame it on the boogeyman.
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Re: Earth Signs of Radical Change

Postby Nebula » Jun 15th, 2012, 11:18 am

Apparently five of the 10 strongest hurricanes in recorded history took place before 1950. (But the weather, according to some, is so much worse nowadays and caused by secret weather experiments.)

http://www.epicdisasters.com/index.php/site/comments/the_ten_strongest_hurricanes/
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Re: Earth Signs of Radical Change

Postby Bejvas » Jun 15th, 2012, 11:19 am

So what? how many other things were occurring at the same time when this particular hurricane happened?

By the way, fear and alertness are two completely different things. Fear is an emotion that largely affects the performance of people negatively whereas alertness on the contrary, enhances the focus and performance.

Alertness sharpens the focus, enhances the impartial understanding and brings intelligence in analyzing the situation/problem than getting spiraled by the imagination or speculation of various possibilities, probabilities and actually what is not.

There is a big difference between what your accusations tell and what the awareness of this process can bring.

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Re: Earth Signs of Radical Change

Postby Nebula » Jun 15th, 2012, 11:20 am

Check this list out of the strongest recorded earthquakes. Check the dates. Does this really look like things are getting worse?

1.
Chile
May 22, 1960
Magnitude: 9.5

2.
Prince William Sound, Alaska
March 28, 1964
Magnitude: 9.2

3.
Aleutian Islands
March 9, 1957
Magnitude: 9.1

4.
Kamchatka, Russia
Nov. 4, 1952
Magnitude: 9.0

5.
Sumatra, Indonesia
Dec. 26, 2004
Magnitude: 9.0

6.
Japan
March 11, 2011
Magnitude: 8.9

7.
Ecuador
Jan. 31, 1906
Magnitude: 8.8

Chile
February 27, 2010
Magnitude: 8.8

8.
Aleutian Islands
Feb. 4, 1965
Magnitude: 8.7

9.
Sumatra, Indonesia
March 28, 2005
Magnitude: 8.7

10.
India-China border
Aug. 15, 1950
Magnitude: 8.6

11.
Kamchatka, Russia
Feb. 3, 1923
Magnitude: 8.5
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Re: Earth Signs of Radical Change

Postby Nebula » Jun 15th, 2012, 11:22 am

Oh, but wait! This thread started about rain... caused by alleged chemtrails... which leads to flooding and all sorts of other calamities. Well, let's check the worst floods in history...

1.
Huang He (Yellow) River, China
1931
Death Toll: 1,000,000 to 3,700,000

The Huang He River is prone to flooding because of the broad expanse of plain that lies around it. One of the major reasons for the flooding is the high silt content that gives the river its yellow tint (and thus its name). The silt—which constitutes as much as 60% of its volume—builds up until the river actually is higher than the surrounding land. The tendency to flood is exacerbated by ice dams which block the river in Mongolia; the dams back up the water, and then release devastating walls of water when they break.

The history of flooding has prompted the Communist Chinese government to embark on a program of building dams for flood control. The dams, however, have not proven entirely effective and have been the target of criticism from environmentalists.

2.
Huang He (Yellow) River, China
1887
Death Toll: 900,000 to 2,000,000

3.
Huang He (Yellow) River, China
1938
Death Toll: 500,000 - 900,000

The 1938 flood of the Huang He was caused by Nationalist Chinese troops under Chiang Kai-Shek when they broke the levees in an attempt to turn back advancing Japanese troops. The strategy was partly successful. By 1940, the Japanese were essentially in a stalemate with Chinese forces.

4.
Huang He (Yellow) River, China
1642
Death Toll: 300,000

Chinese rebels destroy the dikes along the city of Kaifeng, flooding the surrounding countryside.

5.
Ru River, Banqiao Dam, China
1975
Death Toll: 230,000

This flood was caused by the collapse of the Banquia Dam, along with several others, following a heavy rain caused by a typhoon. It is the worst dam related collapse in history.

6.
Yangtze River, China
1931
Death Toll: 145,000

Although the Huang He has caused more deaths, the Yangtze has had more than 1,000 recorded floods.

7.
The Netherlands and England
1099
Death Toll: 100,000

A combination of high tides and storms flooded the Thames and the Netherlands, killing 100,000.

8.
The Netherlands
1287
Death Toll: 50,000

A seawall on the Zuider Zee failed, flooding the low-lying polder.

9.
The Neva River, Russia
1824
Death Toll: 10,000

An ice dam clogged the Neva, flooding nearby cities.

10.
The Netherlands
1421
Death Toll: 10,000

The failure of a seawall on the Zuider Zee flooded the Dutch lowlands.


(Wow, check those dates. I wonder how they got chemtrails in the sky without aircraft?)
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Re: Earth Signs of Radical Change

Postby Nebula » Jun 15th, 2012, 11:25 am

Bejvas wrote:So what? how many other things were occurring at the same time when this particular hurricane happened?

Do you have any evidence that the frequency of bad weather is any worse now than it ever has been in the past? I mean real, statistical evidence?
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Re: Earth Signs of Radical Change

Postby kompili » Jun 15th, 2012, 12:02 pm

Earthquakes: More now, or are we more aware of them?

The yearly worldwide average for earthquakes that register between 7.0 and 7.9 on the Richter scale is 15. In 2010, there were 21 quakes at that intensity. So far in 2011, there have been eight. We’re past the halfway point in terms of the average, but we’re only four months into the year. Check out Graph 1 below, keeping in mind that the red line at 15 is the average for quakes between 7.0 and 7.9.

look at the chart below, this will answer your question

http://matadornetwork.com/change/earthq ... re-of-them
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Re: Earth Signs of Radical Change

Postby averagejoe » Jun 15th, 2012, 12:03 pm

HAARP I: “Owning the Weather” -

Elitist Made Climate Disasters to OrderIn 1999, the EU Parliament issued a report on HAARP. It is described as a weapon that could cause catastrophic climate and weather change and eco-environmental abnormality, is in violation of international law and therefore should be prohibited. The U.S. is said to have made centuries-lasting disruption of the Van Allen Belt and large holes in the ionosphere (and Earth’s magnetic shield) with increased radiation on and incalculable consequences for humans. The U.S. has consistently refused to send representatives to EU hearings thereon.

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Re: Earth Signs of Radical Change

Postby Nebula » Jun 15th, 2012, 12:10 pm

kompili wrote:Earthquakes: More now, or are we more aware of them?

The yearly worldwide average for earthquakes that register between 7.0 and 7.9 on the Richter scale is 15. In 2010, there were 21 quakes at that intensity. So far in 2011, there have been eight. We’re past the halfway point in terms of the average, but we’re only four months into the year. Check out Graph 1 below, keeping in mind that the red line at 15 is the average for quakes between 7.0 and 7.9.

look at the chart below, this will answer your question

http://matadornetwork.com/change/earthq ... re-of-them

Thank you, kompili. Unfortunately, the person who did up that website is guilty of cherry picking data. As Bejavas is fond of saying, one should look at the big picture.

Here's a quote from the USGS website:

Are Earthquakes Really on the Increase?

We continue to be asked by many people throughout the world if earthquakes are on the increase. Although it may seem that we are having more earthquakes, earthquakes of magnitude 7.0 or greater have remained fairly constant.

A partial explanation may lie in the fact that in the last twenty years, we have definitely had an increase in the number of earthquakes we have been able to locate each year. This is because of the tremendous increase in the number of seismograph stations in the world and the many improvements in global communications. In 1931, there were about 350 stations operating in the world; today, there are more than 8,000 stations and the data now comes in rapidly from these stations by electronic mail, internet and satellite. This increase in the number of stations and the more timely receipt of data has allowed us and other seismological centers to locate earthquakes more rapidly and to locate many small earthquakes which were undetected in earlier years. The NEIC now locates about 20,000 earthquakes each year or approximately 50 per day. Also, because of the improvements in communications and the increased interest in the environment and natural disasters, the public now learns about more earthquakes.

According to long-term records (since about 1900), we expect about 17 major earthquakes (7.0 - 7.9) and one great earthquake (8.0 or above) in any given year.


You can see a complete list of recorded earthquakes (without the cherry picking) here:

http://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquakes/eqarchives/year/eqstats.php
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Re: Earth Signs of Radical Change

Postby Ranger66 » Jun 15th, 2012, 12:28 pm

Todays date June 15th

We’re past the halfway point in terms of the average, but we’re only four months into the year

1 - January - 31 days
2 - February - 28 days; 29 days in leap years
3 - March - 31 days
4 - April - 30 days
5 - May - 31 days
6 - June - 30 days
7 - July - 31 days
8 - August - 31 days
9 - September - 30 days
10 - October - 31 days
11 - November - 30 days
12 - December - 31 days
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Re: Earth Signs of Radical Change

Postby kompili » Jun 15th, 2012, 12:28 pm

Many more Underwater Volcanoes happening now, the earth is changing.

http://www.iceagenow.com/Ocean_Warming.htm

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Re: Earth Signs of Radical Change

Postby Nebula » Jun 15th, 2012, 12:30 pm

kompili wrote:the earth is changing.

The Earth is always changing. It has never stopped changing.

So what about the evidence of cherry picking I pointed out. You just going to ignore it as usual?
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Re: Earth Signs of Radical Change

Postby Nebula » Jun 15th, 2012, 12:33 pm

kompili wrote:Many more Underwater Volcanoes happening now

Evidence of cherry picking again.

From the quoted website:

Scientists find previously unknown underwater volcanoes around the remote South Sandwich Islands.

'Previously unknown'. As in, they were not discovered before. That is not evidence of "many more underwater volcanoes happening now". It is evidence that there are more being discovered.
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