"Smart" Meters

[Captain Awesome]

Picture drawn by somebody who has very limited knowledge of how waves work and what Hertz is.

Somebody should have stayed in school...

[concernie]

Picture drawn by somebody who has very limited knowledge of how waves work and what Hertz is.

OK, enlighten us.

[Captain Awesome]

OK, enlighten us.

Hz measure frequency - cycles happening every second. For example, if you post a stupid argument every minute, the frequency of stupid arguments from you will reach 60 Hz. Human body doesn't have a set frequency, as different processes have different frequencies but for example heart beats at 2 Hz, blinking less than 1Hz, while radiation of human body is much higher.

Measuring electro-magnetic waves in Hz while might sound like almost the same thing is completely different. Standard WiFi is indeed 2.4GHz while visible light reaches trillions of Hz.

So, to make an even more stupid poster, I'd encourage you to draw red square next to a human body and say:

Human heart has a frequency of 2 Hz. Red light - 750 Trillion Hz. Compatible? Red light is bad for you!!!

[Captain Awesome]

By the same logic radio - which been around for centuries - is also not "compatible" with human body because it operates at much higher range (up to 300GHz as opposed to 2.4GHz with WiFi) and has way broader reach.

[concernie]

By the same logic radio - which been around for centuries - is also not "compatible" with human body because it operates at much higher range (up to 300GHz as opposed to 2.4GHz with WiFi) and has way broader reach.

So, are you saying then that smart meter frequencies are completely compatible with human frequencies?

According to this diagram, the human body does have set frequencies


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Seems to make sense.

Human heart has a frequency of 2 Hz. Red light - 750 Trillion Hz. Compatible? Red light is bad for you!!!

False comparison. A red light doesn't pulse microwaves like a smart meter does.

[Captain Awesome]

So, are you saying then that smart meter frequencies are completely compatible with human frequencies?

It seems you don't understand the basics of physics. We are surrounded with waves everywhere - light we see is waves, sounds we hear is waves, radio we listen to see is waves. And electronic signals are transmitted at certain frequency too. They all operate at different frequencies. There's no such thing as "frequency compatibility".

According to this diagram, the human body does have set frequencies

Different processes inside the human body operate at different frequencies. For example, in your car the engine spins with one frequency, fuel pump pumps at another frequency, you windshield wipers work at yet another frequency - see my example with your body earlier. Saying "The human body have a set frequency of 8 Hz" is idiotic.

A red light doesn't pulse microwaves like a smart meter does.

Red light (and all visible light) IS microwaves. With a set frequency. Color of the light depends on frequency. If you ever learned Physics 10 you'd know it.

[concernie]

It seems you don't understand the basics of physics. We are surrounded with waves everywhere - light we see is waves, sounds we hear is waves, radio we listen to see is waves. And electronic signals are transmitted at certain frequency too. They all operate at different frequencies. There's no such thing as "frequency compatibility".

That's all fine and dandy but microwaves penetrate human tissue and are obviously harmful. We aren't talking soundwaves here, we are talking smart meter emissions between 750 Mhz to 2.4 Ghz, which is in the microwave range on the electro-magnetic spectrum.

According to this diagram, the human body does have set frequencies

May not be set at 8 hertz exactly, but most organs operate at around that frequency. So, it's accurate to say that, minus some slight variations. It's an irrelevant technicality that you are needlessly obsessing on.

[Captain Awesome]

So, it's accurate to say that, minus some slight variations. It's an irrelevant technicality that you are needlessly obsessing on.

Only if you're an illiterate buffoon who doesn't know how waves work, basics of physics and get sucked into pseudo-science and moronic pictures put together by people with no education or understanding how things operate around you.

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That's all fine and dandy but microwaves penetrate human tissue and are obviously harmful.

You do realize that all radio stations broadcast at much higher range and "evil" microwaves penetrate everything within radio stations reach? [insert a moronic picture of harmful radio waves attacking human body that operates at 8 Hz]

LOL.

[concernie]

Only if you're an illiterate buffoon who doesn't know how waves work, basics of physics and get sucked into pseudo-science and moronic pictures put together by people with no education or understanding how things operate around you.

I've given you the opporunity to enlighten us, but it doesn't look like it's going to happen. You just want to deny, deflect, and use ad hominem attacks.

You do realize that all radio stations broadcast at much higher range and "evil" microwaves penetrate everything within radio stations reach? [insert a moronic picture of harmful radio waves attacking human body that operates at 8 Hz]

LOL.

Radio waves are emitted in the radio range, not the microwave range, although they are close in frequency. Being as intelligent as you claim, you ought to know that. Proximity is a big factor when it comes to exposure. The greater the distance between a person and a source of EMR, the less potential for damage. So, unless you are living directly beside or close to a radio transmitter, it's unlikely you will experience negative health effects.

What else you got for us, Bill Nye?

[Captain Awesome]

I've given you the opporunity to enlighten us, but it doesn't look like it's going to happen.

Only those willing to learn basic physics can be enlightened, my friend. By the way, I think most people know this, and you're the minority who still can't grasp simple things and due to your limited knowledge are too easily impressed by pseudo science. So yes, I don`t expect you to understand how dumb the picture you`ve posted is.

Radio waves are emitted in the radio range, not the microwave range, although they are close in frequency.

Once again you try to talk about things you have no idea about.

Radio waves are in 3KHz to 300GHz range. 2.4GHz (that`s the scary 2,400,000Hz figure in your dumb picture) falls inside of that range. Cause you know...wifi ultra super killer waves are nothing but radio waves. The only difference, your good old fashioned AM radio transmits much powerful waves (hence the giant reach) and 24/7, and wifi waves are extra weak (limited range) and are only broadcasted less than a minute a day.

Look, I even found a textbook for you so you can educate yourself: http://www.scribd.com/doc/9777576/Physics-Grade-10

[concernie]

Only those willing to learn basic physics can be enlightened, my friend. By the way, I think most people know this, and you're the minority who still can't grasp simple things and due to your limited knowledge are too easily impressed by pseudo science. So yes, I don`t expect you to understand how dumb the picture you`ve posted is.

Calling something pseudo-science doesn't make it so.

Radio waves are in 3KHz to 300GHz range. 2.4GHz (that`s the scary 2,400,000Hz figure in your dumb picture) falls inside of that range. Cause you know...wifi ultra super killer waves are nothing but radio waves. The only difference, your good old fashioned AM radio transmits much powerful waves (hence the giant reach) and 24/7, and wifi waves are extra weak (limited range) and are only broadcasted less than a minute a day.

You are arguing semantics. But if it makes you feel like a bigger man, have at it.

Look, I even found a textbook for you so you can educate yourself: http://www.scribd.com/doc/9777576/Physics-Grade-10

Fantastic! Maybe you should read it.

[goatboy]

Sorry Concernie, you're losing this debate to Captain big time. Captain has explained his position, you have done nothing more than post some pictures and tell him he's wrong. It's clear he understands this topic far more than you do. Now, Hindu Spiratulism and ocult history, you probably have him on those.

[concernie]

Sorry Concernie, you're losing this debate to Captain big time. Captain has explained his position, you have done nothing more than post some pictures and tell him he's wrong. It's clear he understands this topic far more than you do. Now, Hindu Spiratulism and ocult history, you probably have him on those.

What I've said is accurate; the pictures are accurate.