Alternative history for history buffs

[averagejoe]

Post any interesting history that is ignored by the main stream media, twisted by hollywood or history books.

[averagejoe]

Propaganda playings an important part in keeping lies alive. Here is one that was keep alive for over 40 years regarding WW2.
Soviet massacre of Polish Military Officers by NKVD Soviet secret police. This know as the katyn Forrest massacre in Poland.
The Germans invaded Poland from the west and the Russian's 2 weeks later from the east. Germany and Russia divided Poland in half. The Germans got blamed for the massacre by the allies till finally in 1989, Russian admitted they actually did the crime. The Allies kept the truth a secret for over 40 years. Just to keep other lies alive and keep the blame on the shoulders of the German people for supposedly starting WW2.

Katyn Forest is a wooded area near Gneizdovo village, a short distance from Smolensk in Russia where, in 1940 on Stalin's orders, the NKVD shot and buried over 4000 Polish service personnel that had been taken prisoner when the Soviet Union invaded Poland in September 1939 in WW2 in support of the Nazis.
[NKVD- Narodny Kommisariat Vnutrennikh Del. If you are Polish NKVD means "Nie wiadomo kiedy wroce do domu. Impossible to tell when I will return home."]

In 1943 the Nazis exhumed the Polish dead and blamed the Soviets. In 1944, having retaken the Katyn area from the Nazis, the Soviets exhumed the Polish dead again and blamed the Nazis. The rest of the world took its usual sides in such arguments.

In 1989, with the collapse of Soviet Power, Premier Gorbachev finally admitted that the Soviet NKVD had executed the Poles, and confirmed two other burial sites similar to the site at Katyn. Stalin's order of March 1940 to execute by shooting some 25,700 Poles, including those found at the three sites, was also disclosed with the collapse of Soviet Power. This particular second world war slaughter of Poles is often referred to as the "Katyn Massacre" or the "Katyn Forest Massacre".


http://www.katyn.org.au/

http://www.archives.gov/research/foreig ... -massacre/

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... d-eye.html

[FreeRights]

Propaganda playings an important part in keeping lies alive. Here is one that was keep alive for over 40 years regarding WW2.
Soviet massacre of Polish Military Officers by NKVD Soviet secret police. This know as the katyn Forrest massacre in Poland.
The Germans invaded Poland from the west and the Russian's 2 weeks later from the east. Germany and Russia divided Poland in half. The Germans got blamed for the massacre by the allies till finally in 1989, Russian admitted they actually did the crime. The Allies kept the truth a secret for over 40 years. Just to keep other lies alive and keep the blame on the shoulders of the German people for supposedly starting WW2.

Katyn Forest is a wooded area near Gneizdovo village, a short distance from Smolensk in Russia where, in 1940 on Stalin's orders, the NKVD shot and buried over 4000 Polish service personnel that had been taken prisoner when the Soviet Union invaded Poland in September 1939 in WW2 in support of the Nazis.
[NKVD- Narodny Kommisariat Vnutrennikh Del. If you are Polish NKVD means "Nie wiadomo kiedy wroce do domu. Impossible to tell when I will return home."]

In 1943 the Nazis exhumed the Polish dead and blamed the Soviets. In 1944, having retaken the Katyn area from the Nazis, the Soviets exhumed the Polish dead again and blamed the Nazis. The rest of the world took its usual sides in such arguments.

In 1989, with the collapse of Soviet Power, Premier Gorbachev finally admitted that the Soviet NKVD had executed the Poles, and confirmed two other burial sites similar to the site at Katyn. Stalin's order of March 1940 to execute by shooting some 25,700 Poles, including those found at the three sites, was also disclosed with the collapse of Soviet Power. This particular second world war slaughter of Poles is often referred to as the "Katyn Massacre" or the "Katyn Forest Massacre".


http://www.katyn.org.au/

http://www.archives.gov/research/foreig ... -massacre/

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... d-eye.html

lolwut.

[Captain Awesome]

Just to keep other lies alive and keep the blame on the shoulders of the German people for supposedly starting WW2.

Hilarious.

[kompili]

Moon landing conspiracy theories

The Moon landing conspiracy theories claim that some or all elements of the Apollo program and the associated Moon landings were hoaxes staged by NASA with the aid of other organizations. The most notable claim is that the six manned landings (1969–1972) were faked and that twelve Apollo astronauts did not actually walk on the Moon. Various groups and individuals have made such conspiracy claims since the mid-1970s. Conspiracy theorists (henceforth conspiracists) claim that NASA and others knowingly misled the public into believing the landings happened, by manufacturing, tampering with, or destroying evidence including photos, telemetry tapes, radio and TV transmissions, Moon rock samples, and even some key witnesses.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moon_landing_conspiracy_theories

[kompili]

10 Reasons the Moon Landings Could Be a Hoax

The theory that the moon landings were hoaxed by the US government to assert their victory in the space race over Russia, is something which has grown in popularity over time.

Recent polls indicate that approximately 20% of Americans believe that the U.S. has never landed on the moon. After the Apollo missions ended in the seventies, why haven’t we ever been back? Only during the term of Richard Nixon did humanity ever land on the moon, and after Watergate most people wouldn’t put it past Tricky Dick to fake them to put America in good standing in the Cold War.

http://listverse.com/2012/12/28/10-reasons-the-moon-landings-could-be-a-hoax/

[Fancy]

The theory that the moon landings were hoaxed by the US government to assert their victory in the space race over Russia, is something which has grown in popularity over time.

Rather sad that people are more inclined to believe fiction than fact. A great achievement at huge expense being denied by a small percentage that apparently suffer from tunnel vision.

[Tacklewasher]

Rather sad that people are more inclined to believe fiction than fact. A great achievement at huge expense being denied by a small percentage that apparently suffer from tunnel vision.

Beyond that, the number of people who would have to be involved in the conspiracy (including all the Russians tracking the spacecraft) numbers in the hundreds of thousands if not millions. Remember the spacecraft was tracked by ground radar from most countries with the ability. Ever person involved in that tracking has to be in on it.

[kompili]

Beyond that, the number of people who would have to be involved in the conspiracy (including all the Russians tracking the spacecraft) numbers in the hundreds of thousands if not millions. Remember the spacecraft was tracked by ground radar from most countries with the ability. Ever person involved in that tracking has to be in on it.

It all looks good on T.V. but in real life that is a different story.

Russians Still Skeptical About U.S. Moon Landing
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/07/19/russians-still-skeptical-_n_239982.html

[Fancy]

"Of course, we would have liked to see the first man on the moon be Soviet, Russian, but that's life ... Our own achievements were very many," he told Associated Press Television News.

Apparently they are not that skeptical.

http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/debunking-myth ... ax-1457501

[steven lloyd]

Beyond that, the number of people who would have to be involved in the conspiracy (including all the Russians tracking the spacecraft) numbers in the hundreds of thousands if not millions.

Wow! That’s even more people than would have to be involved in the chemtrail conspiracy