"I Don’t Vaccinate My Child"

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It would be nice to know what the actual truth was. I watched the video several times and did not see one iota of information regarding the safety or non safety of vaccinations. A house of cards built with nothing but insinuation.
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I have yet to see Vaxxed, but if it is the truth you are looking for, here are a few quotes that may point you in the right direction. Although they don't directly speak of vaccinations, they sure make you go hmmmm:

Arnold Seymour Relman (1923-2014), Harvard Professor of Medicine and Former Editor-in-Chief of the New England Medical Journal:
“The medical profession is being bought by the pharmaceutical industry, not only in terms of the practice of medicine, but also in terms of teaching and research. The academic institutions of this country are allowing themselves to be the paid agents of the pharmaceutical industry. I think it’s disgraceful.”

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1126053/#ref15

Another former Editor in Chief of the New England Medical journal, which is also considered to be one of the best in the world,  Marcia Angell (the author of “The Truth About Drugs”) has made similar assertions:
It is simply no longer possible to believe much of the clinical research that is published, or to rely on the judgement of trusted physicians or authoritative medical guidelines. I take no pleasure in this conclusion, which I reached slowly and reluctantly over my two decades as an editor of the New England Journal of Medicine.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2964337/

Dr. Richard Horton, the current Editor-In-Chief of one of the most reputable reviewed medical journals in the world, The Lancet:
The case against science is straightforward: much of the scientific literature, perhaps half, may simply be untrue. Afflicted by studies with small sample sizes, tiny effects, invalid exploratory analyses, and flagrant conflicts of interest, together with an obsession for pursuing fashionable trends of dubious importance, science has taken a turn towards darkness.

http://www.thelancet.com/pdfs/journals/lancet/PIIS0140-6736%2815%2960696-1.pdf

Why Most Published Research Findings Are False:
http://journals.plos.org/plosmedicine/article?id=10.1371/journal.pmed.0020124
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Passion4Truth wrote:Why Most Published Research Findings Are False:


Because I don't agree with them.
Your bias suits you.
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Big Pharma's medical research papers are total bunk... hundreds were fraudulently ghostwritten by a P.R. firm called 'DesignWrite'
http://www.naturalnews.com/054141_Big_P ... apers.html
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no surprise here, must p... off here the ones that work for big pharma on here and push there bs
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Natural news is complete and utter rubbish.
http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/NaturalNews
http://www.slate.com/articles/health_an ... ingle.html

When asked for evidence to back their claims NN goes silent or threatens to 'expose the conspiracy'. Which they never do.

NUTTERS NEWS is what is should be called.
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What about the discovery of a link between autoimmune encephalitis and vaccinations? Do you ignore established physicians and neurologists that report on such cases? Autism is neurological... mmm yep. Late-onset autism is often being re-diagnosed as an increasing list of titres associated with autommune encephalopathies are identified.

It is rare, but less rare than previously thought. The mandate must be to identify it when it occurs, treat it, and carry on. Enough denial.
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Reported in reputation journals or just quack sites like Mercola and NUtters News?

http://image.thelancet.com/extras/02art9340web.pdf

Note the FAQ section and page 5.

Sorry, the lancet doesn't allow me to copy and paste the sections I'd like to highlight here.
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viewtopic.php?p=1898030#p1898030

From earlier on in this thread.

A link to the US's National Center for Biotechnology Information

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3158385/
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And now that they've discovered vessels linking the immune system to the brain, they'll have to do some textbook revisions.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/artic ... mer-s.html
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kgcayenne wrote:And now that they've discovered vessels linking the immune system to the brain, they'll have to do some textbook revisions.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/artic ... mer-s.html


^^^^^^ so in a nutshell ,vaccines can and are making more people sick then big pharma will every admit too
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Since no one on this thread seems to be able to produce conclusive proof that the other side is right or wrong why continue the emotional argument. Evidence exists that thousands more people got sick and died before Vaccinations were given than after Vaccinations were given. The rare exceptions are just that, ... rare exceptions.

End of story.
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If the exceptions were recognized and treated instead of denied, then wouldn't that be better? If some of these conditions can be treated, why SHOULD it be end of story?
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If the pharmaceutical companies finally had to acknowledge the conditions that result from adverse reactions, they would essentially be opening Pandora's Box and the fiscal hemorrhaging may not stop.... then where would we all be?

This is a double-edged sword in which the minority is sacrificed and the rationale is that it is for the greater good... just don't tell anyone we already know about it.
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And when will we allow lawsuits against parents who don't vaccinate? When there's an outbreak and a child ( too young for the vaccine) gets sick, shall we collectively sue all Anti-vaxxers for the damages and recoup the cost to our medical system?
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