Oh boy, talk about opening a can of worms
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Oh boy, talk about opening a can of worms
Cat eradication plea draws hisses from New Zealand’s kitty lovers
Nick Perry
The Associated Press
WELLINGTON, NEW ZEALAND—Gareth Morgan has a simple dream: a New Zealand free of pet cats that threaten native birds. But the environmental advocate has triggered a claws-out backlash with his new anti-feline campaign.
Morgan called on his countrymen Tuesday to make their current cat their last in order to save the nation’s unique bird species. He set up a website, called Cats To Go, depicting a tiny kitten with red devil’s horns. The opening line: “That little ball of fluff you own is a natural born killer.”
He doesn’t recommended people euthanize their current cats — “Not necessarily but that is an option” are the site’s exact words — but rather neuter them and not replace them when they die. Morgan, an economist and well-known businessman, also suggests people keep cats indoors and that local governments make registration mandatory.
Morgan’s campaign is not sitting well in a country that boasts one of the highest cat ownership rates in the world.
“I say to Gareth Morgan, butt out of our lives,” Bob Kerridge, the president of the Royal New Zealand Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Animals, told the current affairs television show Campbell Live. “Don’t deprive us of the beautiful companionship that a cat can provide individually and as a family.”
For thousands of years, New Zealand’s native birds had no predators and flourished. Some species, like the kiwi, became flightless. But the arrival of mankind and its introduction of predators like cats, dogs and rodents has wiped out some native bird species altogether and endangered many others.
“Imagine a New Zealand teeming with native wildlife, penguins on the beach, kiwis roaming about in your garden,” Morgan writes on his website. “Imagine hearing birdsong in our cities.”
But many New Zealanders are against the campaign. Even on Morgan’s website, 70 per cent on Tuesday were voting against making their current cat their last.
Morgan could not be reached on Tuesday.
And the science remains unclear. Some argue that cats may actually help native birds by reducing the population of rodents, which sometimes feed on bird eggs.
Morgan’s separate personal blog, in fact, has a separate campaign to raise $1 million to eradicate mice from the remote Antipodes Islands, where rodents are the only predators.
A 2011 survey by the New Zealand Companion Animal Council found that 48 per cent of households in New Zealand owned at least one cat, a significantly higher rate than in other developed nations. The survey put the total cat population at 1.4 million.
In the U.S., 33 per cent of households own at least one cat for a total of 86 million domestic cats, according to a 2012 survey by the American Pet Products Association.
Scientist David Winter said cats are indeed a problem in New Zealand, having contributed to the extinction of at least half a dozen New Zealand bird species. Writing on his blog “The Atavism,” Winter said Morgan’s campaign appeared designed to “start conversations.”
Still, he added, “What hope is there for environmentalists in conversation where our side wants to take people’s kittens away?”
http://www.thestar.com/news/world/artic ... tty-lovers
Nick Perry
The Associated Press
WELLINGTON, NEW ZEALAND—Gareth Morgan has a simple dream: a New Zealand free of pet cats that threaten native birds. But the environmental advocate has triggered a claws-out backlash with his new anti-feline campaign.
Morgan called on his countrymen Tuesday to make their current cat their last in order to save the nation’s unique bird species. He set up a website, called Cats To Go, depicting a tiny kitten with red devil’s horns. The opening line: “That little ball of fluff you own is a natural born killer.”
He doesn’t recommended people euthanize their current cats — “Not necessarily but that is an option” are the site’s exact words — but rather neuter them and not replace them when they die. Morgan, an economist and well-known businessman, also suggests people keep cats indoors and that local governments make registration mandatory.
Morgan’s campaign is not sitting well in a country that boasts one of the highest cat ownership rates in the world.
“I say to Gareth Morgan, butt out of our lives,” Bob Kerridge, the president of the Royal New Zealand Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Animals, told the current affairs television show Campbell Live. “Don’t deprive us of the beautiful companionship that a cat can provide individually and as a family.”
For thousands of years, New Zealand’s native birds had no predators and flourished. Some species, like the kiwi, became flightless. But the arrival of mankind and its introduction of predators like cats, dogs and rodents has wiped out some native bird species altogether and endangered many others.
“Imagine a New Zealand teeming with native wildlife, penguins on the beach, kiwis roaming about in your garden,” Morgan writes on his website. “Imagine hearing birdsong in our cities.”
But many New Zealanders are against the campaign. Even on Morgan’s website, 70 per cent on Tuesday were voting against making their current cat their last.
Morgan could not be reached on Tuesday.
And the science remains unclear. Some argue that cats may actually help native birds by reducing the population of rodents, which sometimes feed on bird eggs.
Morgan’s separate personal blog, in fact, has a separate campaign to raise $1 million to eradicate mice from the remote Antipodes Islands, where rodents are the only predators.
A 2011 survey by the New Zealand Companion Animal Council found that 48 per cent of households in New Zealand owned at least one cat, a significantly higher rate than in other developed nations. The survey put the total cat population at 1.4 million.
In the U.S., 33 per cent of households own at least one cat for a total of 86 million domestic cats, according to a 2012 survey by the American Pet Products Association.
Scientist David Winter said cats are indeed a problem in New Zealand, having contributed to the extinction of at least half a dozen New Zealand bird species. Writing on his blog “The Atavism,” Winter said Morgan’s campaign appeared designed to “start conversations.”
Still, he added, “What hope is there for environmentalists in conversation where our side wants to take people’s kittens away?”
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Re: Oh boy, talk about opening a can of worms
There will be an underground movement importing cats. What happens if mice take over?
http://www.stuff.co.nz/environment/8180 ... it-killers
http://www.stuff.co.nz/environment/8180 ... it-killers
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Re: Oh boy, talk about opening a can of worms
People blame cats and rats and mice for problems there, the rabbits and cane toads for problems in Australia, the shrimp in the Okanagan that almost wiped out the Kokanee, etc, but the only real culprit is humans who brought all of them there.
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Re: Oh boy, talk about opening a can of worms
I heard this on the radio this morning and then read about it here. Cats are an invasive species to New Zealand, I don't see the problem with reducing the number of cats or removing them entirely. After all, that's what would be done with any other invasive species, so why should cats get special preference?
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Re: Oh boy, talk about opening a can of worms
Do you really want to go there? Hate to break it to you but dogs are also classified as an invasive species.
Some of the better-known invasive animal species in New Zealand are:
Mammals: Cat, Chamois, Cow, Dog, Deer, Ferret, Goat, European hedgehog, Horse, House mouse, Pig, Common brushtail possum, Rabbit, Rat, Sheep, Stoat, Himalayan tahr, Wallaby, Weasel
Invertebrates: German wasp, Common wasp, Asian paper wasp, Varroa destructor, Sea squirt
Fish: Grass carp, Gambusia, Rudd, Catfish, Trout
Some of the better-known invasive animal species in New Zealand are:
Mammals: Cat, Chamois, Cow, Dog, Deer, Ferret, Goat, European hedgehog, Horse, House mouse, Pig, Common brushtail possum, Rabbit, Rat, Sheep, Stoat, Himalayan tahr, Wallaby, Weasel
Invertebrates: German wasp, Common wasp, Asian paper wasp, Varroa destructor, Sea squirt
Fish: Grass carp, Gambusia, Rudd, Catfish, Trout
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Re: Oh boy, talk about opening a can of worms
Its called evolution, cats rule.We being an evolving animal took them there ,its all perfectly natural.
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Re: Oh boy, talk about opening a can of worms
oneh2obabe wrote:Do you really want to go there? Hate to break it to you but dogs are also classified as an invasive species.
Some of the better-known invasive animal species in New Zealand are:
Mammals: Cat, Chamois, Cow, Dog, Deer, Ferret, Goat, European hedgehog, Horse, House mouse, Pig, Common brushtail possum, Rabbit, Rat, Sheep, Stoat, Himalayan tahr, Wallaby, Weasel
Invertebrates: German wasp, Common wasp, Asian paper wasp, Varroa destructor, Sea squirt
Fish: Grass carp, Gambusia, Rudd, Catfish, Trout
What's your point? Are the dogs killing off other native species?
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Re: Oh boy, talk about opening a can of worms
From a brief look at New Zealand's native mammals, it appears the bat is the only one that can claim it's indigenous to this country. Sorry, I think they are cute but for a pet I'd rather have a dog.
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Then pass a law that cats must be kept inside or on a leash when outside. Hefty fines if they don't.
So I saw a bumper sticker today that said, I'm a Veterinarian so I drive like an animal.
I suddenly realised how many Proctologists are on the road!
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Re: Oh boy, talk about opening a can of worms
Those that like the outdoor cat can build a cattery - problem solved.
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Re: Oh boy, talk about opening a can of worms
Wouldn't it be that caucasian humans are the most invasive species there?
Hmmmm.
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Re: Oh boy, talk about opening a can of worms
underscore wrote:What's your point? Are the dogs killing off other native species?
Actually they are ... ferrets and dogs often kill adult kiwi and the owl parrot along with other species. These predators can cause large and abrupt declines in populations. In particular, dogs find the strong distinctive scent of kiwi irresistible and easy to track, such that they can catch and kill kiwi in seconds.
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Re: Oh boy, talk about opening a can of worms
Ok, so dogs on leases and cats indoors.
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